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Coasterama
05-17-2001, 03:53 PM
or has it that Nagashima might build a giga coaster around 370 and have some inversions,
<BR>the track will flatten out at the bottom of the 1st hill.
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Yankee Cannonball
05-17-2001, 04:39 PM
First of all, this belongs in the World Coasters forum, not the American Coasters forum.
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<BR>Second, I bet that Japan will be getting some new gigas over the next decade, but don't expect another one at Nagashima for quite a while. Steel Dragon was nearly $50 million, and I don't think that they can afford an even bigger coaster anytime soon. Besides, there's no reason to break the record for the tallest complete circuit coaster on earth when they own the current record.

Kraken
05-17-2001, 04:40 PM
We will build them first.

Tom Zeliff
05-17-2001, 04:40 PM
Moved to World Coasters.

roomraider
05-17-2001, 05:01 PM
THat Coment From Kraken is the one that annoys me the most.
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<BR>Typical we will get everything first because we are the best comment that.
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<BR>Anyway on to the topic
<BR>Intamin have recently signed a Contract for a new Giga coaster.
<BR>Im pretty sure i know where to but im not saying anything incase im wrong.
<BR>But its NOT in the USA.
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MarkRenwick
05-17-2001, 05:16 PM
Blackpool could do with an intamin giga but i doubt it.
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<BR>Also remeber who got the first B&M dive machine, first real flying coaster (Skytrack at Granda studios 1997), The first B&M flying coaster, The first hyper inverted, the first barol roll on a stand u, teh first full dark backwards coaster and the list goes on and on and on.

Taipan
05-17-2001, 05:40 PM
Fujikyu Highlands wants the title of the world's tallest rollercoaster back. Fujiyama is their previous record holder at 259ft.
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<BR>Rumour is they will get a 322ft 107mph S&S TA2K called...(Drum roll)...Fujiyama II!

Coasterama
05-17-2001, 05:47 PM
I heard that or too

Coasterama
05-17-2001, 05:48 PM
50 mill on the Dragon--No way!

junebugg
05-18-2001, 04:29 AM
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<BR>50 mill on the Dragon--No way!
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<BR>Yes Way! Believe it or not, Steel Dragon 2K was listed at 5.5 billion yen in its press release. When you convert that to US$, you'll get about $50,000,000.00.

RMB
05-18-2001, 12:39 PM
Hi there!
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<BR>Anyway on to the topic
<BR>Intamin have recently signed a Contract for a new Giga coaster.
<BR>Im pretty sure i know where to but im not saying anything incase im wrong.
<BR>But its NOT in the USA.
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<BR>Remember what I wrote in another posting.
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<BR>The management of Heide-Park (Germany) told us that they are concentrating on installing rollercoasters in order to become coaster capitol of Germany/Europe. Guess what I
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<BR>Heide-Park will build a record-breaking giga-coaster - possibly made by Intamin. Nothing has been confirmed yet, but I think time will tell if I'm right or not.
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<BR>One hint is that they announced to build something very big...
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<BR>Stay tuned
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<BR>RMB
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roomraider
05-18-2001, 01:41 PM
Hey
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<BR>yes Heide Park is the park.
<BR>A friend of my sent of a letter to Stengel the guy who designed Colossos.
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<BR>He Asked.
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<BR>You may ask why he asked Terracoaster. This is beacuse the stats floating around are 415ft. belive these if you want but im a bit sceptical.
<BR>The question is a bit worded like that so he knows we know somethings going on
<BR>if you ask "Is Heide park Getting a new Giga" then he might just say he can't say.
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<BR>Anyway back to the point
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<BR>The answer he got in return intrests me. because it neither confrims or denys the fact its a Giga or a Terra coaster
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<BR>Intresting answer.
<BR>It prooves Heide park are up to something big.
<BR>and if the rumours are true that park officals said they will build the worlds tallest coaster then maybe thats what it will be.
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<BR>Oh he said Terracoaster as it goes
<BR>Mega
<BR>Giga
<BR>Terra
<BR>like on Computers.
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revolt
05-18-2001, 03:05 PM
i just thought id fill you in
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<BR>the superman escape is the tallest fastest roller coaster on the face of this earth.
<BR> <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_razz.gif"> i love it when i do that hehe its 400ft tall and 100mph so <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_razz.gif"> <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif"> hehe <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif"> sir

RMB
05-18-2001, 03:33 PM
Hi roomraider!
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<BR>Yep! Seems to be like a puzzle that is getting finished faster than wanted...
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<BR>But stay calm. I think we won't see this coaster next year. Such a high ride has to be allowed by the local institutions. And that will take time. Besides it makes no sense to present 'record-breakers' two years in a row. But what about 2003...?!
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<BR>Stay tuned
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<BR>RMB
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Flix
05-18-2001, 04:46 PM
Aha! the good age old tale of S:E!
<BR>Is it a coaster, or isn't it a coaster?
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<BR>i personnally think it ISN'T a coaster, because it doesn't do what a coaster does!
<BR>pull you up and let you go...so in fact the tallest ROLLERCOASTER on the planet is Steel Dragon 2000, and NOT MILLENNIUM FORCE
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<BR>yeah, S:E is technically the tallest coaster on the planet, but i don't think so...but TA2K, now, tjhat is a coaster, continious looped circuit...aha, what debates we have here!
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RMB
05-18-2001, 04:57 PM
Hi Flix!
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<BR>yeah, S:E is technically the tallest coaster on the planet, but i don't think so...but TA2K, now, tjhat is a coaster, CONTINIOUS LOOPED CIRCUIT...aha, what debates we have here!
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<BR>What about the shuttle loops and boomerangs?
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<BR>They also don't offer a continious looped circuit but they are - without doubt - rollercoasters. Aren't they?
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<BR>Stay tuned
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<BR>RMB
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Sir Willow
05-18-2001, 05:01 PM
Regardless of whether or not S:TE is a coaster, it is not a full circuit, does not have a lift hill, and can't really qualify for a "first drop" record.
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<BR>Oh, additionally, while the tower is 415 feet high, Superman itself only travels a bit over 300 feet of that tower. (maybe 360 I think) So a coaster with a 400 foot drop would still beat it.

Flix
05-18-2001, 05:13 PM
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<BR>What about the shuttle loops and boomerangs?
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<BR>They also don't offer a continious looped circuit but they are - without doubt - rollercoasters. Aren't they?
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<BR>Stay tuned
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<BR>RMB
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<BR>okay, i see your point.but are the coasters...i think....maybe...but i am sure that sir willow has come up with the answer...yes!
<BR>they DON'T have a large first drop because they don't have a hill lift! so, the don't count as rollercoasters...the count as thrill rides!
<BR>is a space shot a rollercoaster?, no it isn't, but they follow the same principle...but...in refference to the topic...i say that two gigas after each other is impossible...no way would they do that...or is it?

RMB
05-18-2001, 05:52 PM
Hi Flix!
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<BR>they DON'T have a large first drop because they don't have a hill lift! so, the don't count as rollercoasters...the count as thrill rides!
<BR>is a space shot a rollercoaster?, no it isn't, but they follow the same principle...but...in refference to the topic...i say that two gigas after each other is impossible...no way would they do that...or is it?
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<BR>Sorry that I mention the same example, but shuttle loops don't have a lift hill or a first drop cause they're launched. I agree that a space shot isn't a coaster. But let me tell you my opinion what makes a real coaster:
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<BR>#1) steel or wood made track
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<BR>#2) wheel based trains - no matter how many cars are included. For example: single car trains as they are seen on Superman - The Escape or clunched cars in 'normal' coaster trains
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<BR>#3) lift hill and/or launch
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<BR>Back to the last point:
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<BR>For Heide-Park it would make sense adding a giga-coaster for 2003. What about Cedar Point? Take a look at their coaster line-up. You have a hypercoaster (Magnum XL-200) next to a gigacoaster (Millennium Force). Not that I want to compare Heide-Park with Cedar Point. But perhaps it shows the intention of Heide-Park's management. Namely to put a German park on the map of all us coaster enthusiastics.
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<BR>Stay tuned
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<BR>RMB
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<BR>P.S. Unfortunately I am not allowed to give you further details.
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