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Rctman
05-04-2001, 09:17 PM
I think there arent any

Vulcan91
05-04-2001, 09:20 PM
I love all coasters, but if I had to compare them at the very bottom of my list down behind wild mouse coasters and bobsleds would come Vortex at Paramount's Carowinds. It just lacks something (everything lol). Also, Raptor is WAY overhyped.

Nick D
05-04-2001, 09:22 PM
I think most people will agree with these two words IRON WOLF.

Weezul_ST
05-04-2001, 09:24 PM
That was their first coaster, so you can't really blame them. And it was good for its time.

Kraken
05-04-2001, 09:47 PM
Vortex at Great America.

ComicRider
05-04-2001, 10:14 PM
Iron Wolf was there first, so it kinda has an excuse for being the worst.

SLFAKE
05-07-2001, 10:12 AM
Of the ones I have ridden, best to worst...
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<BR>1) Kraken (Favorite)
<BR>2) Montu
<BR>3) Incredible Hulk
<BR>4) Great Bear
<BR>5) Kumba
<BR>6) Dueling Dragons - Fire Dragon
<BR>7) Dueling Dragons - Ice Dragon (Least Favorite)
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Flix
05-07-2001, 11:33 AM
Probably Oblivion...i say in my defance that it is short and is a one-trick ride...but it was a world first...WHY ISN'T THIS IN THE WORLDWIDE COASTERS SECTION!
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<BR>there are a few Beemers in the rest of the world y'know!

BlackDaddy
05-07-2001, 02:46 PM
Batman's Knight Flight @ SF Ohio (or whatever it's called this year)followed by most of their stand-ups, except maybe the Georgia Scorcher.
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<BR>Best would be Apollo's Chariot, Medusa, Hulk, Great Bear, Montu, Kraken, and Raptor. (no particular order)
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Eden the Coaster King
05-07-2001, 03:40 PM
Oblivion, this although isn't bad the first time you ride it, it needs more. Alton towers could of at least made the drop vertical which was rather imbaressing when the offical angle was recorded at 83 degrees and the park could also add some more track, or a simple inversion in the winter months which would make the ride alot more exciting and possibly one of the best B&M's.

CoasterMike
05-07-2001, 03:41 PM
None of the B&M's I have been on were bad

MarkRenwick
05-08-2001, 10:08 AM
Oblivion isn't bad and the drop couldn't have been any steaper unless their were supports around the drop holding it up and taht would ruin the look of the ride.
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<BR>the ride isn't meant to have anything else but the drop thats the ride and thats what it was designed ofr. Plus their isn't any room to extend it and why wouldthey when it is the parks second most popular coaster (when i went the other week had an 1hr longer queu than nemesis and it has an higher hourly capacity)

MarkRenwick
05-08-2001, 10:09 AM
actually the offcial angle is 87.5 not 83

Smoky
05-08-2001, 10:27 AM
Mantis (The Coaster Formerly Known as Banshee) gets my vote, mostly due to the fact the upkeep has gone to pot. When it first opened, I was pretty excited about riding it, and it was really good then, nice high-G loop, and lots twists and turns. However I rode it on Sunday (opening day at CP) and <i>ow ow ow!!!</i> that thing hurt <i>badly</i>, so bad it would make the folks at TOGO green with envy. I remember thinking as we got to the block brake "get me off of this thing!!!!" The set hurt my thighs and "nether-regions", the horsecollars bashed my head all over the place <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_mad.gif">, and the wheels were literally square. Put it this way, when Mean Streak is very smooth by comparison, you know its rough.

coaster man098
05-08-2001, 10:30 AM
well, due to ageing and being the firsts, iron wolf and vortex's are the worst

coaster man098
05-08-2001, 10:30 AM
well, due to ageing and being the firsts, iron wolf and vortex's are the worst

BlackDaddy
05-08-2001, 11:27 AM
I don't ride mantis anymore!

Medusa Man
05-09-2001, 04:05 PM
Vortex at PGA definitley. Its ssoooo boring! sorry vortex!

cedarboy2001
05-09-2001, 05:08 PM
I don't know how anyone can say that Raptor is over-hyped. It's the best coaster at CP. Sorry but I haven't been on MF yet, and IMHO Magnum is the one that's over-hyped.

cedarboy2001
05-09-2001, 05:09 PM
By the way, Worst B&M? Definitely Mantis!

Chris L
05-09-2001, 05:35 PM
By the means of 'worst', as in being the least exciting or pleasurable of the ones that were designed and construcuted by B&M (I say that because they are all fun in their own ways), I would have to say their earliest attempts such as the Iron Wolf, and the Vortexes are the worst on the list. Mantis is also a pretty painful ride. I've never felt any such pain (Pain in the many regions on my legs and slight head jarring) on other stand-ups that including the Togo models.

Catherine
05-09-2001, 06:06 PM
"Worst B & M"? Isn't that an oxymoron <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">

Old Crow
05-09-2001, 06:53 PM
Vortex at PGA was tollerable when it was slower but now that it has some speed it a real head banger. Top gun didn't really impress me that much at first but now that it running better and faster it rocks.

Rollercoasterdude44
05-09-2001, 07:22 PM
Vortex.... Too Basic
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Morpheus
05-09-2001, 07:29 PM
B&M worked on Flashback at SFMM, and I don't think any coaster is as bad as that.

CaliforniaCoasterKing
05-09-2001, 07:35 PM
Flashback

Rollercoasterdude44
05-09-2001, 07:36 PM
Well if i knew b&m built Flashback i would say.......um this is tough.....FLASHBACK!

nitro
05-09-2001, 07:59 PM
well i have to say that the worst b&m is more of a class of b&m coasters. The stand up models, but b&m tells every one they are not as good as the rest. So it is the parks falt for buying b/c b&m warns there customers.
<BR>Good all b&m always keeping in mind the trill seekers choice

Erik Johnson
05-09-2001, 08:35 PM
I personally love Mantis. I rode it in September 1999 and it was a really good coaster. It may have even been my favorite at Cedar Point, but it's a tough call with Raptor and Magnum in such close competition.

Medusa1861
05-10-2001, 07:03 AM
Batman: The Ride
<BR>I don't know i just didn't really like the ride

TRDCDS1
05-10-2001, 07:34 AM
The worst one i have been on is Mantis

slipknot8527
05-10-2001, 08:08 AM
Probaly Mantis. I'm From Atlanta and we drove 14 hours to ride Mantis and Millenium Force. It was very dissapointing. The second half of the ride is an exact copy of the Georgia Scorcher. And what's with the trim brakes on the first drop?

CoastaPlaya
05-10-2001, 10:07 AM
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<BR>The second half of (Mantis) is an exact copy of the Georgia Scorcher. And what's with the trim brakes on the first drop?
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<BR>Mantis was built in '96, so it's really the other way around, right?
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<BR>The brakes on the drop were put on in the '96-'97 offseason because so many (wimps <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_razz.gif">) complained about being crushed to their knees by the G forces. Delicate, delicate people! <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">
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<BR>-CPlaya
<BR>(whose little sister crawled off Mantis in its debut year)<BR><BR><font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: CoastaPlaya on 2001-05-10 10:12 ]</font>

Tyler Eaves
05-10-2001, 10:13 AM
Medusa at SFGRADv. I found it totally lacking in intensity.
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Coastersking
05-10-2001, 10:20 AM
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<BR>Flashback
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<BR>FLASHBACK ISN'T A B&M, IT'S AN INTAMIN!!!
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<BR>my worst B&M has to be build <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">
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<BR>René alias tha coastersking

Robert Coker
05-10-2001, 02:38 PM
Hey, All!
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<BR>I gotta say, B&M coasters are hard to fault but all of their "smaller" stand-ups don't seem to be aging quite so well. Riddler's Revenge is still as awesome as ever. <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">
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<BR>Maybe this is why B&M doesn't seem to be building stand-ups much anymore (although the Georgia Scorcher, so far, is a fantastic ride).

The Beast
05-10-2001, 04:21 PM
Hands down, Batman Knight Flight, this piece of junk is sooooo smooth it's boring. You can't even feel what your doing. Whats the point of an inversion if you can't tell when your upside down.

AmbersDan
05-10-2001, 07:47 PM
I didnt reaize there was any bad B&M's hmm.. thats news

BlackDaddy
05-11-2001, 03:58 PM
The Georgia Scorcher is the ONLY stand up I've ever liked, of any manufacturer. It's the only totally painless one.
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<BR>BKF at SFWoA is my worst multi-element B&M. Surprisingly rough to be so small with awkward transitions. It was my biggest new coaster disappointment of last summer, as I had been anticipating it all year after riding Medusa umpteen times the year before. It makes Kumba seem like a soothing back rub, despite its age.
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IOArules
05-11-2001, 04:16 PM
The worst B&M IMO is the Georgia Schorcher. The thing is under 30sec, has a 100ft drop, and only 2 inversions! It is also one of the roughest B&M's I've been on. I've been on it 12 times this season and every one of the rides has been rough. The ride just plain sucks.
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<BR>Well it isn't B&M's fault the ride is so small and boring. SFOG had them build it in a rectangle about 100ft. wide and 2000ft. long. B&M did a great job designing it, but it's to bad SF wouldn't have put more money and space into it.

Medusa1861
05-11-2001, 06:16 PM
I hate all popular B&Ms excluding Nitro because i m sick of hearing about them all the time

bsfcstrfrk
05-11-2001, 11:52 PM
vortex @pga I've ridden- vortex, top gun, medusa west, batman and riddler @ sfmm. medusa rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dingo65
06-04-2001, 07:16 PM
Although its their first one, Iron Wolf.

RollerCoasterer
06-04-2001, 07:24 PM
I know this is a very unoriginal answer, but I honestly can not think of one I didn't like.

CoolCoasterKid
06-04-2001, 07:28 PM
I've liked all the ones I've been on except Mantis. I was so excited about riding it because it was my first stand-up coaster, but it hurt like hell. It pales in roughness comparison to Viper, Rolling Thunder, and Hershey's Wild Mouse, but it still hurt a lot. I enjoyed the other B&M @ CP, Raptor, a whole lot more.

slipknot8527
06-04-2001, 07:53 PM
I cant think of one I didnt enjoy either but if I had to choose I would say Batman the ride

Orient Expressman
06-05-2001, 08:23 PM
Vortex or Mantis.
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<BR>Did somebody say, "Aaah! My &*#$&! head.

Orient Expressman
06-05-2001, 08:24 PM
Vortex or Mantis.
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<BR>Did somebody say, "Aaah! My &*#$&! head.

Hector
06-05-2001, 08:37 PM
Vortex and Top Gun at PGA. <!-- BBCode Start --><B>Do not get me worng.</B><!-- BBCode End --> I love all coasters, It's just that they are to Short. <!-- BBCode Start --><B>IMO</B><!-- BBCode End -->

Stk4114
06-05-2001, 09:00 PM
i agree with slipknot8527. batman the ride was so much better a couple years ago. after riding it this year my head was throbbing with pain.

Dr. Insanity
06-05-2001, 10:07 PM
As rough as Mantis is, it still makes me think "wow, this is so much better than those old Togo standups".
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murchison1
06-05-2001, 10:23 PM
Iron Wolf, but it was their first so you can't blame them.

Coasterdime
06-06-2001, 01:25 AM
I think their stand-ups are aging badly. I still love all B&M's though!

junebugg
06-06-2001, 01:56 AM
MANTIS is by far the worst B&M I've ever been on.

DrachenFire96
06-06-2001, 01:56 AM
I can honestly say that I have never been on a bad B&M, but Medusa at SFGAdv was a disapointment. I rode it 3 times straight, front, middle, back, and I simply find it to have no intensity. Its not a screamer, its like too smooth or something, I don't know. Granted I liked the coaster, but it just didn't thrill me like the other Beamers I have ridden. And they say floorless coasters are supposed to give you the feel of a front seat ride no matter where you sit??? thats a joke in my opinion. Even the front wasn't that thrilling. Think the most entertaining part of the ride was the lift hill because I could watch the gorillas walking all over this brand new minivan that was attempting to go through the safari, I could only guess at the damage to that person's paint job, but it was funny. <BR><BR><font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: DrachenFire96 on 2001-06-06 01:57 ]</font>

HolyCow
06-20-2001, 11:04 AM
Raging Bull Sucks

goonsta
06-20-2001, 11:20 AM
*Sure it does*
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<BR>This has been a broadcoast test by the national office of sarcasm.

LocoSpitz
06-20-2001, 11:24 AM
Out of Batman: The Ride (SFoG), Great White, Mantis, Raptor, and Superman: Krypton Coaster, I would say Raptor. It wasn't bad, but it's my least favorite B&M.

Raptor
06-20-2001, 12:48 PM
To everyone complaining about Mantis being painful, ride Iron Wolf and then tell me how bad Mantis is, in comparison, its not really that rough at all. Iron Wolf may be the first B&M but I think its time they tear it down..

k_doe02
06-20-2001, 01:09 PM
see i think only b/c of age this coaster is wild but i think b/c i was sick afterward that batman the ride is now about the worst due to age only and that the brakes are soo ruff

CoasterCrazy
06-20-2001, 01:10 PM
How can you say Mantis is rough?! It's smooth!! Everytime I ride it I enjoy it!! And by the way, the brakes on the hill: THEY ARE THERE FOR YOUR SAFETY! Cedar Point doesn't want any of their coasters to be over 5 G's. I'm perfectly okay with CP making sure that their rides arent painful. Even if some of them are a little ( Mean Streak ) their still good.

Talon22
06-21-2001, 07:37 AM
Many people I know that have ridden other Beemers (I've only 1) tell me that Great Bear is the worst. They say it stinks and stuff. Great Bear is still an awesome coaster. When I rode front row I was blown away. The only thing I figure that is not as good is it's shortness (2800 ft)

beltzies64
06-21-2001, 07:56 AM
Nitro...j/k
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<BR>I think the B:TR clones are all the worst.

arlok2
06-26-2001, 06:20 PM
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<BR>i agree with slipknot8527. batman the ride was so much better a couple years ago. after riding it this year my head was throbbing with pain.
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<BR>are u on pot?????????????!?!? i rode it with u and it was smooth as hell!!!!

Thunderbolt
06-26-2001, 06:55 PM
Iron Wolf, but that doesn't mean its a bad coaster, just the worst B&M.

Alan Roberts
06-26-2001, 08:11 PM
There's a worst B&M?

SteelPhantom
06-26-2001, 08:22 PM
i loved batman the ride, u cant say u hated because IT WAS THE FIRST INVERTED EVER...plus, what it lacks in size, it makes with some nice smooth speed

Honan Beetch
06-26-2001, 08:25 PM
I would have to say Iron Wolf is the worst B&M coaster 'cause it just defines what B&M isn't: rough and bumpy.

RiddRevenger
06-26-2001, 08:27 PM
I'm sorry to put more wood on the fire, but I love <!-- BBcode auto-mailto start --><a href="mailto:Vortex@Pga.">Vortex@Pga.</a><!-- BBCode auto-mailto end --> Sure it has two inversions and only gets to 40mph but what it lacks in size it makes up for in grit. Call me a big fat coaster enthusiast, but I think that B&M did one hell of a job putting an almost 2000 foot loong coaster into the space that they did. The land is so tiny, yet it is still fun for me. Also, Top Gun @PGA is still a good coaster to me because it is still smooth and a lot of fun but still short. whatever...

coasterdude6690
06-26-2001, 08:38 PM
WORST COASTER FROM B&M <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_evil.gif"> !!!!
<BR> I think they are-like-the
<BR> BEST!!
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<BR> at least the best one I've been on is Super Man Kripton Coaster <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif">
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SteelPhantom
06-26-2001, 08:51 PM
ok first off, whoever said batman is rough is a ******in idiot...second off, great bear is good for like 20 reasons..the best reason is that hershey is never crowded!!! i went on great bear 6 times yesterday, and it was in like a 25 minute span!!!thats like 1/4 of what most ppl wait in line for rides like raptor that are good but not worth that long...btw, 3 of those times was in the front =']

X COASTER
06-26-2001, 10:54 PM
There's no such thing as a bad B&M coaster. Every coaster they make is good.

NitroExplodes
06-29-2001, 01:48 PM
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<BR>Good Point

Tim
07-03-2001, 07:11 AM
I used to think that B&M only made great coasters. My opinion has changed since then. Mantis is the worst B&M I've been on, but none of the new ones I've ridden (Batman Knight Flight, Dueling Dragons, Hulk, etc) have been as smooth as my first B&M, Raptor. It seems like they've gone for height and speed, and in the process have increased the intensity greatly. I was very disappointed when I got off of DD:Ice. Sure Fire was better, but they're both brand new, and I wonder what Ice will be like in 10 years. B&M should come to the same conclusion that CCI did. You don't have to be huge to be great.

kingtut
07-03-2001, 07:13 AM
Vortex at Carowinds...They should tear it down...

CoasterCrazy
07-03-2001, 08:44 AM
Kumba, but that is just because I dont remember anything at all about it.

DHollon
07-03-2001, 09:06 AM
Iron Wolf, followed by Vortex
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<BR>-D

JurassicParkMan
07-03-2001, 10:23 AM
Magicsquid, what are you blabbing about? Why is it that a coaster has to be so smooth that it makes you fall asleep to be good? Both Dueling Dragons are great because they are wonderfully intense. I personally like how B&M is increasing their intensity a little bit.

strong guy
07-03-2001, 11:24 AM
they don't make bad coasters
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escher
07-03-2001, 11:48 AM
Well, I have a problem with nearly all B&M coasters, because I am just a bit too big for the seats... this was not always the case, they shortened the seatbelts and my back is too long... HOWEVER, on Medusa at SFMW, they built a couple seats that have two belts on the side rather than one up the middle. So I can finally ride at least one B&M... and WHAT A RIDE IT IS! <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">

R@ptor
07-03-2001, 11:54 AM
I think Oblivion at AT is their worst, because it's just a drop and nothing more.

viperlord
07-03-2001, 11:57 AM
none of them are bad,but I'd probaly say a batman clone for the worse.

Honan Beetch
07-03-2001, 12:00 PM
Come to think of it, the older generation B&M coasters kind of fall behind the newer and more technologically advanced ones. The only B&M coaster that pops up in my mind that doesn't quite blow me away anymore is Iron Wolf. I still think it's awesome to be the one that started the B&M craze, but it just doesn't live up to its name anymore.

Tim
07-03-2001, 12:17 PM
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<BR>Magicsquid, what are you blabbing about? Why is it that a coaster has to be so smooth that it makes you fall asleep to be good? Both Dueling Dragons are great because they are wonderfully intense. I personally like how B&M is increasing their intensity a little bit.
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<BR>What I'm saying is that you shouldn't have to ride a coaster 10 times so that you can experiment with seat locations and how to position your body before it is a good ride. I don't like feeling like I just finished up a boxing match when I get off a coaster. The Dragons are FAR better than Mantis. It could also be that I am taller than most riders, so that could be part of the problem. When Mantis opened up it was a very good ride, however in its current state it isn't.

Mantis0014
07-03-2001, 12:24 PM
OK i know this is pathetic but i've only been on 2 beemers, Raptor and Mantis. I don't see how Mantis could be THAT bad that it makes your head hurt unless you ride in the back. But since I know that it is a little rough, I would NOT ride in the back. I went with some friends a couple weeks back and we rode in the front 2 out of 3 times we went on it, and i kept my hands up the whole way on the second front seat ride(not sure about the first) and i had no trace of a headache whatsoever when i got off. And could you imagine what that ride would be like withOUT the brakes on the first drop? It would make it even more intense(I prefer not to say "rough"). And they did put the breaks on the first drop cause people were coming close to blackout. This is a great ride (although the bicycle seats do hurt a tad). Oh and Raptor is smoother but i like Mantis better. More thrilling.

Chip
07-03-2001, 01:37 PM
Um, Flashback at SFMM wasn't built by B&M. It may look like it because of the box track and four-across seating, but it was really built by Intamin AG. Matter of fact, it was the first coaster with four-across seating. Not a B&M coaster, though. Worst B&M? I'd have to say Mantis, but that was a pretty cool ride. I haven't ridden that many B&M's. Wait until I come back from Florida to cast my vote!

coastergenius100
07-03-2001, 02:18 PM
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<BR>On 2001-05-04 21:22, ndyer123 wrote:
<BR>I think most people will agree with these two words IRON WOLF.
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<BR>True.

narciss
07-03-2001, 03:41 PM
Vortex at pga. Way to short and nothing special. One time my legs dangled because they diddnt lock it when they said they would, and you know how that story goes.

HisDougness
07-05-2001, 01:44 AM
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<BR>On 2001-05-09 19:35, CaliforniaCoasterKing wrote:
<BR>Flashback
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<BR>There are a few flashbacks... which one did B&M build?

Kopp8699
07-05-2001, 01:48 AM
I havnt ridden ne bad B&M's

Montu
07-10-2001, 09:25 PM
there is no bad B&M

Andy Hodgson
07-10-2001, 09:27 PM
worst B&M coaster. <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_confused.gif"> <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_confused.gif"> <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_confused.gif"> <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_confused.gif"> <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_confused.gif"> <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_confused.gif">
<BR>ive been on 17 B&Ms and not a single one was bad. but my least fav was the georgia scorcher.

serpent king
07-10-2001, 09:39 PM
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<BR>On 2001-07-03 08:44, CoasterCrazy wrote:
<BR>Kumba
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<BR>anyway the worst is Iron Wolf.

coasterqueen
07-10-2001, 09:57 PM
I have yet to ride a bad B&M coaster.
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<BR>I do have to say though, and many will agree and disagree, that the Talon doesn't live up to the hype.
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<BR>Dont' get me wrong, I loved the Talon, and still do....and it might be the absolute favorite coaster of anyone who has experienced very few if any B&M inverted coasters.
<BR>Let's just say I went onto the Talon with very, and I mean, VERY high expectations. I expected to have my mind blown away to Pluto and back, but I have been on better, similiar coasters.
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<BR>Never mind....my expectations were too high, Talon is awesome!! Forget the front seat, go to the very back!!!! LOL!!!
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<BR>Tina N.
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<BR>Check out new pics of the Talon and more!!!

coaster9freak
07-10-2001, 10:30 PM
I been on no bad b&m coaster.

RaginBull217
07-10-2001, 10:49 PM
Iron Wolf is definently the worst. I loved Mantis. It was one of my favorite rides there. If you guys hate it so much then don't ride it and there will be less wait for me.

Steveb
07-11-2001, 09:44 AM
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<BR>I didn't like Batman The Ride at SFMM. I found it rough and too fast for its length. I love to be able to see a coaster properly and be able to appreciate smooth inversions. Compared to Nemesis, or something REALLY smooth like Ridlers Revenge (Maybe not a b&m) Batman was shaky.

MaxTheMan17
07-11-2001, 12:52 PM
Vortex at PGA is the worst. But the other to "clones" of this look bad too (vortex at Carowinds, and Iron Wolf).

SFGAm Crazy
07-11-2001, 01:01 PM
How can you hate Iron Wolf! It's the best B+M out there! I mean it's compact, super twisted layout is hard to beat. And since the new harnesses have been somewhat broken in (especially the front) the ride is smooth and fun. I love the Iron Wolf! It's my favorite ride, and, IT NEVER SLOWS DOWN! <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">

MedusaTheBoar
07-11-2001, 07:29 PM
Ugh, this topic is mainly an excuse to fawn over B&M and either answer "There is no such thing as a bad B&M" or "Well Mantis kind of but you know that's okay because it's just a little rough but not much and that's okay nothing against Claude and walt they still rule it's just a little rough". I would say that Medusa is up there for my least favorite B&M, right with Talon. Two forceless, boring, utterly unexciting piles of nothing.

the_xtreme
07-12-2001, 01:32 PM
Alot of people say iron wolf is the worst B&M coaster...BUT!!....It was there very 1st coaster....I really can think of a B&M coaster that sucks....Only one is that they couldve made oblivions a lil longer...Clint

Hypercronic
07-15-2001, 01:12 AM
I love B&M but almost all of them are nausiating. Other than that I think they are great.

topfuel
07-15-2001, 03:38 PM
The worst BM coaster is still better than
<BR>the best Arrow coaster. Enough said!

crashoveride
07-15-2001, 03:42 PM
id have to say vortex and iron wolf.....

Greg Johnson
10-09-2001, 08:31 PM
Im moving this because it fits one of the following
-"What is the best..........?"
-"What is the worst..........?"
-"..........versus.........."
-"What's your favorite..........?"
-"What's your least favorite..........?"
-"Which is better..........or..........?"
-"Which is worse..........or.........."?
-Any other superlative

I'm moving this thread to "Polls" now.

theforce
10-09-2001, 08:41 PM
Mantis!!!!!!!!

RagingBull#1
10-09-2001, 08:42 PM
anyone that says iron wolf is pissing me off really bad. this is a really good ride. it is one of the most intense B&M's out there. all of the people that bash it probably don't remember it when it just came out and was the smoothest thing in the world and one of the top coasters. it was great and still is.

RagingBull#1
10-09-2001, 08:45 PM
um max the man, just to let you know, the vortexes are clones of iron wolf not the other way around.

Coasterlover28
10-09-2001, 08:50 PM
i liked all of the B&M's that I have been on so far. Sure some are rougher than others but they are all still good

Alien@SixFlags
10-09-2001, 09:02 PM
I would have to sya RAPTOR, it banged your head a little at the nd and that like 478973490634 degree turn around, it seemed like that helix would never stop and i would barf up my lungs. I rode mantis and i liked it a lot, the only part it hurts is the corkscrew which bangs your head a little. it is cool how you fell waight less at the top, they should remove the brakes on the hil though, it owuld be more fun.

Alien@SixFlags
10-09-2001, 09:04 PM
i was talkin bout the top of the loop, sorry, man i cannot spell

Valpengeist
10-09-2001, 09:09 PM
Like others have said, you can't blame a company for their first few coasters not being as good as their latest. However...I found that Vortex and PCaroWinds just...lacked something I like about Beemers...ah, well, let's just praise 'em for the good ones!

intamin101
10-09-2001, 09:16 PM
I don't think that Iron Wolf was as bad as you guys say. It is smooth in comparison to some Arrows that I know of, but anyhow. I think that the B:TR and company are getting rough in the back seat. Kinda whips through the inversions. I love the front on the other hand, it delivers an outstandingly smooth ride for its age.

SpeedAKL
10-09-2001, 09:18 PM
I personally wasn't much for the two Vortex coasters. Iron Wolf is a good ride, better than Vortex, even though it is the first B&M. I do not know why everyone bashes Mantis. I thouhgt that it was a fun, smooth ride. My favorite B&Ms are Apollo's Chariot, Nitro, Alpengeist, Incredible Hulk, Raging Bull, Montu, and Kraken.

Kopp8699
10-09-2001, 10:35 PM
Originally posted by Vulcan91
I love all coasters, but if I had to compare them at the very bottom of my list down behind wild mouse coasters and bobsleds would come Vortex at Paramount's Carowinds. It just lacks something (everything lol). Also, Raptor is WAY overhyped.


i also thought that but i love that ride now!! its # 3 on my top 10 coasters (i donno y i rode 1st, 2nd (2 times), and last)

Kopp8699
10-09-2001, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by Kopp8699


i also thought that but i love that ride now!! its # 3 on my top 10 coasters (i donno y i rode 1st, 2nd (2 times), and last)

im talkin about raptor

Chris L
10-09-2001, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by Smoky
Mantis (The Coaster Formerly Known as Banshee) gets my vote, mostly due to the fact the upkeep has gone to pot. When it first opened, I was pretty excited about riding it, and it was really good then, nice high-G loop, and lots twists and turns. However I rode it on Sunday (opening day at CP) and <i>ow ow ow!!!</i> that thing hurt <i>badly</i>, so bad it would make the folks at TOGO green with envy. I remember thinking as we got to the block brake "get me off of this thing!!!!" The set hurt my thighs and "nether-regions", the horsecollars bashed my head all over the place <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_mad.gif">, and the wheels were literally square. Put it this way, when Mean Streak is very smooth by comparison, you know its rough.

Well said...I could not agree any more. Someone should squash that bug.

Dr.Bruce Banner
10-10-2001, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by ComicRider
Iron Wolf was there first, so it kinda has an excuse for being the worst. Just becuz its there 1st doesnt mean its gotta be the roughest......Iron Wolf is rough but i think Kumba is getting really bad.

Marcus
11-17-2001, 10:14 PM
Of the ones ive been on it would have to be Kumba
But really it is a great ride especially since it was made in the early 90's. But i just overestimated it and thats my fault and I didnt really see it as the best thing out there. But I think all B&M are good and really fun, but if i had to pick id say Kumba.

Ta2KX
11-17-2001, 10:24 PM
Batman KNight Flight; a pathetic waste of 4200 ft of sacred B&M track. it does a whole lot . . . of nothing, no really intense moments, all the forces seem to balance out and u never really get any great floating sensations, except for maybe the first loop but in B&Ms thats a given.

Graham
11-17-2001, 10:30 PM
Iron Wolf or Mantis.

B&M Fanatic
11-18-2001, 03:50 PM
Great Bear too short

PhantomRevnge67
11-19-2001, 10:50 AM
Vortex at Paramounts Carowinds

topfuel
11-20-2001, 03:21 AM
I can't say I've ever ridden a bad B&M, but if I had to choose one I would say the Georgia Scorcher. Smooth ride, but too short and not very intense. I expected something wilder than Mantis, since GS was built after Mantis. Still a great ride though; I would wait in line for GS over an Arrow or Vekoma ride anyday.

BrooklynRider
11-20-2001, 08:47 AM
I was a little disappointed in Kumba.

mooses41
11-22-2001, 10:12 PM
The worst i've been on is great bear but i still would rate it a 9/10:*)

norcalcoasters
11-28-2001, 11:48 PM
The Only two B&M's i've been on are Top Gun And Vortex which are both at PGA. Vortex is definitely worse than Top Gun, but I think they are both great rides.

X-Cellent
11-29-2001, 12:50 AM
Every b&m i have been on has been good so i can't really distinguish which one is the worst

CHRISCO
11-29-2001, 07:41 AM
Great Bear is not the worst. why cause it is short? @ least its not a clone and is different(helix @ the top) i think it is amazing cause it not like anyother coaster BATMAN-THE RIDE!!!...And i feel medusa has gotten alttile rough but its still really goood.. i HAVENT BEEN ON A B&M THAT i diidnt like...

CPFan
01-06-2002, 02:21 PM
either Batman the Ride at SFGAm or Iron Wolf, they both pretty much suck compaired to other B&M's.

RagingBull#1
01-06-2002, 02:38 PM
How can you say BTR sucks if it has been cloned more than10 times in less than 10 yrs

chilled
01-06-2002, 02:39 PM
id have to go w/ any batman cause there all so cloned

APJSFR1
01-06-2002, 02:54 PM
I think that it is Iron Wolf. I really don't think that Batman: The Ride is that bad, yeah I mean they are cloned but at least they are very smooth, and they are still B&M so it couldn't be that awful!