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basilnabi
12-24-2005, 05:54 PM
I was at the Stratosphere last year, and I had been told by one of the employees that they were trying to get the city to aprove a rollercoaster dropping from the top of the Stratosphere to the Sahara hotel. Could the removal of High Roller mean that construction of this 1000 foot drop coaster is starting?

dukeandPCfan
12-24-2005, 06:00 PM
^ lol i heard the same rumor when in Vegas this past April.....

the removal of High Roller was coming - it just plain sucks. I can see the Stratosphere adding that next big ticket.... but could it honestly be a 1000 foot coaster?? lol i could see intamin being hired to build an accelerator off the edge of the building w/ top hats etc around the building but a 1000 foot coaster would have to utiilize some new technology like the Vekoma tilt concept.... i wonder....

it would be completely AWESOME for the Stratosphere to goto the next level, and the removal of High Roller is one small step towards that direction

Cephas
12-24-2005, 06:53 PM
^Stop Dreaming.

The high roller did suck. It went 2 mph and they still held you in that Togo POS with OTSRs. When riding high roller, I kept waiting for the ride to get interesting-then it ended. I'm not going to lose any sleep over this removal.

I don't think a coaster will be installed on the stratosphere, just because of cost. I think that we will instead see a few very nice flats.

But, if a coaster were to be built off the side of the stratosphere, I think I can guess the manufacturer. I don't see the arrow fish hook being installed for mostly obvious reasons involving the ride/company. I also don't see an intamin ride being installed because the thing would cost more than Disney's Everest. I don't see B&M doing much, as they would probably refuse this project. That leaves...

:heart: VEKOMA! :heart:

...lol. But in all seriousness, I don't see any other company possibly taking up this offer. I guess we'll call the ride MOAH (Mother of all Headbangers).

'Top Thrill Gambler' also has a nice ring to it.

coolstarwasim
12-24-2005, 06:57 PM
A 1000 ft. coaster is just unreal. i see some kind of flat too. Like a skyscraper ride??/=..

Montu Man
12-24-2005, 07:29 PM
Maybe a Splash Mountain clone?

zongaboy626
12-24-2005, 07:46 PM
or maybe a chocolaye factory yah!
and willy wonka will lead you on a tour thru twisted high speed togo goodness!
But the may know the gp will not ride a togo so
with every ticket you get an oompa loompa!

Worm
12-25-2005, 03:13 AM
i really hope put nother coaster on there! flats just ain't that good as coasters!

Hector
12-25-2005, 05:36 AM
First off, I moved this to rumors where it should go.


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The high roller did suck. It went 2 mph and they still held you in that Togo POS with OTSRs. When riding high roller, I kept waiting for the ride to get interesting-then it ended. I'm not going to lose any sleep over this removal.
<snip>

It was Premier, but I agree, something that slow should NOT hurt that bad.

Matt M
12-25-2005, 12:23 PM
Personally I think Pax could do something kickass ontop of the tower, but I'll keep dreaming.

VekomahangNbang
12-25-2005, 04:05 PM
i really hope put nother coaster on there! flats just ain't that good as coasters!

With the limited space up there a flat would most likely be more fun than a coaster.

Montu Man
12-25-2005, 05:27 PM
With the limited space up there a flat would most likely be more fun than a coaster.

You've never been up there, dear sir. I've launched Big Shot and done other random crap like that. :heart:

VekomahangNbang
12-25-2005, 05:51 PM
^You don't have to go up there to know there's not a heap of space up there.

Slingshot57
12-25-2005, 09:46 PM
It would make sense to make a ride that inverts, they don't have a flat that goes upside down. A Huss Top Spin, or a Chance Chaos (I wish) would be pretty cool 900 feet in the air.

Gemini78
12-25-2005, 09:55 PM
...or a Chance Chaos (I wish) would be pretty cool 900 feet in the air.

You are joking about the Chaos right? We all know what a public relations hedache those rides have been for parks over the past few years with all the problems. I don't want to imagine the sight that would result from a Chaos car falling 900+ feet to the Strip below.

willski2002
12-25-2005, 09:59 PM
High Roller is manufactured by SDC (or an affiliate) from Italy.

I can see them bringing in another flat from Interactive Rides (X-Scream and Insanity) or building the fish-hook coaster from Arrow that was planned (with a new manufacturer).

Slingshot57
12-25-2005, 10:04 PM
You are joking about the Chaos right? We all know what a public relations hedache those rides have been for parks over the past few years with all the problems. I don't want to imagine the sight that would result from a Chaos car falling 900+ feet to the Strip below.

I knew it wasn't going to happen, thats why I put "(I wish)" in the sentence. I put Chance Chaos in my post because it inverts and it was one of the first things that popped into my head.

I do enjoy them though, Chaos at CP is one of my favorite flats.

dukeandPCfan
12-26-2005, 04:43 PM
pardon my ignorance, but what is the fish hook concept?

willski2002
12-26-2005, 05:39 PM
Enlighten thyself: http://www.lvrj.com/lvrj_home/2001/Sep-07-Fri-2001/photos/news.jpg

PGH_Steeler
12-26-2005, 07:06 PM
A 1000 ft. coaster is just unreal. i see some kind of flat too. Like a skyscraper ride??/=..

to be honest, i don't know much about coasters but i don't think it is unreal. I mean just think... 10 years ago people probably never thought there would be 400 foot coasters. I think it can happen. Its just a matter of time. One day i think we will see a thousand foot coaster. It may not be for a long time but i think it will happen one day.

jonny228
12-27-2005, 03:35 PM
That fishhook concept is probably the most horrible design I have ever seen. Now, really, consider the source of rumors and then consider the reality of it before spouting out the claim. A 1000 foot drop (sure) on a coaster (no that G-force won't kill anyone) onto a competitors hotel (really). The only coaster I think you might be able to get up there is a small boomerang, that would be sick, HEY VEKOMA!!! I could see some swings up there, that would be sweet.

Matt M
12-30-2005, 12:27 AM
If you proportionately inflate MF's drop you could make a 700ft coaster with that same drop.

Rex
01-01-2006, 01:25 PM
still, there is no way in hell, that with todays coaster technology, we could ever reachteven close to the 1000 ft drop. That fishhook is load of bull and it's never actually going to be done.

Now, as for putting a modified boomerang up there, THAT could actually work. You'd have to make a curved & banked station, lift hill, and return hill; and I can see how they could actually do that too. It's actually possible, though tough, and it would have inversions. so everyone is happy, eh?
Ok, here's the run through. curved and banked station leading back to a curver and banked lift behind it. The lift is spiraled up around so it has support from the tower, and goes up underneath the return hill. There would be the cobra roll, but no loop (no enough room), instead immediately after the roll, it starts into the curved return hill.

RidePhoto101
01-01-2006, 03:11 PM
How about a Huss Giant Frisbee that swings over the edge of the building. I think that would easily top insanity and maybe even come close to X-Scream as the scariest ride on earth. About the only thing I can think of that would be better is if they built an Intamin inverted impulse coaster with the towers hanging over the edge.

Cephas
01-01-2006, 04:45 PM
I think they should just do something almost like high roller, just inverted with lapbars, and actually hanging off the side of the tower.

How about something like this:
http://www.rcdb.com/ig598.htm?picture=5
Waterbombs and all!

dukeandPCfan
01-01-2006, 04:48 PM
i would love to step outside the Stratsosphere Casino and be soaked (and quite hurt) from the water bombs from above. An Intamin Impulse would be very cool, and I'm pretty sure that today we are able to create a 1000 foot drop coaster. Will it happen? Probably not. But technology is a lot more advanced then people assume..

How about a Screaming Squirrel off the edge. Now we're talking scary.

Nitro1118
01-01-2006, 05:38 PM
We have the technology to make a 1,000ft coaster, the problems arise with the money and amount of space most parks have.

Anyway, I think a Topple Tower or a variation to the Screaming Squirrel would be the best and scariest options for the Stratosphere. Of course, that's assuming they can't add that Bungee jump like they have in New Zealand.

Jerry S
01-01-2006, 05:55 PM
I think a flyer, one that is very simple, that would basically make a few circles around the edge of the tower like High Roller, but hangs of the edge, and makes a few random swooping curves, overbanks, dives, and maybe even a heartline roll or 2 would really be awesome. The first B&M in Vegas.


Personally I think Pax could do something kickass ontop of the tower, but I'll keep dreaming.

Why keep dreaming? I'm sure a Russian company will come way over to the United States to build a 5 milliond dollar coaster.........

I'm sorry, I had to.

Cephas
01-01-2006, 08:05 PM
i would love to step outside the Stratsosphere Casino and be soaked (and quite hurt) from the water bombs from above.

With the extreme height of the Stratosphere tower, and the dryness of the Nevada desert, the water bombs would turn to mist before they hit the ground. People could get wet, but they certainly wouldn't get hurt.

For the record, I was kidding with that above water bomb comment anyways...

Sir Willow
01-03-2006, 03:22 PM
It's not going to be a coaster or anything like that at all. Sorry guys.

For some that watch TV, you might have seen a special on a while back (sorry, I don't remember where or when) that showed some people in Asia somewhere (Taiwan maybe?) riding a cable contraption down the side of a building while wearing a harness that attached them to it and positioned them like a skydiver. They reached speeds of around 40-50 miles an hour before it slowed them down to an easy stop at the bottom of the building.

That's what's coming to the Stratosphere next. And it's giving them an excuse to removed High Roller, which has often been a headache, as well as give them so other extra room to think about what else they'd like to add on in the future since the new "attraction" won't take up much room.

apsterling
01-03-2006, 03:34 PM
heres one...

a custom thrill ride,

A ride track, that goes over the edge, and a car, that is on a sort of arm, and slides over the edge, and then inverts, on the arm, and has riders facing straight down 1000 feet to the ground.

FLCC Josh
01-03-2006, 03:43 PM
Mr Willow is correct. Here is a link to help everyone out.

http://www.skyjump.co.nz/

Jerry S
01-03-2006, 04:28 PM
It would be cool to see that other New Zealand thing, where it's a ball that you simply climb into, inflatable I mean. They could build a "bowl, like for skateboarding, on the stratosphere and let people drop in in the ball. That would be a cool ride.

dukeandPCfan
01-03-2006, 04:44 PM
heres one...

a custom thrill ride,

A ride track, that goes over the edge, and a car, that is on a sort of arm, and slides over the edge, and then inverts, on the arm, and has riders facing straight down 1000 feet to the ground.

this may sound cool, but its like a combo of Xscream and Insanity - two rides already on the Stratosphere.. they also had several problems with the car going off the tower at a certain speed on an arm (Xscream), and it was closed for quite awhile...

skyjumping thing seems more reasonable while they look into other future plans. I see it highly possible however, that a coaster be built later on the tower, and possibly down it... we are technologically savvy enough to do it... its the city politics and sheer funds that prevent it from already happening.

Kingdakasurivor
01-03-2006, 08:56 PM
Mr Willow is correct. Here is a link to help everyone out.

http://www.skyjump.co.nz/


It's pretty funny how it says "It's a whole new way of falling off stuff""

Yeah that would be pretty cool off the side of the tower.

And the ball thing someone brought up is called Zorbing

Rex
01-09-2006, 02:04 PM
That cable dropper would definitely be a good thing to put in, but I see one huge problem with it. Unless they make a big public awareness of it, the LVPD is going to get a lot of suicide jumper reports...

Jumboshrmp
01-14-2006, 06:24 PM
^ lol i heard the same rumor when in Vegas this past April.....

the removal of High Roller was coming - it just plain sucks. I can see the Stratosphere adding that next big ticket.... but could it honestly be a 1000 foot coaster?? lol i could see intamin being hired to build an accelerator off the edge of the building w/ top hats etc around the building but a 1000 foot coaster would have to utiilize some new technology like the Vekoma tilt concept.... i wonder....

it would be completely AWESOME for the Stratosphere to goto the next level, and the removal of High Roller is one small step towards that direction
Well, that actually sounds somewhat possible, If you have a good imagination....
You know how big the support tower has to be for a strata coaster... well, image how much less the coaster would cost without it! Sure, it would still be millions, but a 1000 foot coaster would definitely return that money. My idea would be that Intamin could use the stratosphere itself for support, and go up the side and over the top. The only thing keeping this from being realistic, aside from the likelynes of it hapopeninga nd the weight of all that steel would be... How much speed do you think would be necessary to get it all the way up the building?

dukeandPCfan
01-14-2006, 08:44 PM
^ no im more sure they'd want to start it up top, and then have some sort of cable lift back up.. that way they'd still charge people to go up the tower (which earns 10.00 for each person visiting any of the rides up there....)

they could use the building for more support, but i'm sure that we are able to create a coaster today that drops the 1000 feet - its just that vegas, and possibly the general public, is not quite ready for it yet...

Marc
01-15-2006, 02:52 PM
It's quite a view up there but the height doesn't really add a whole lot of intensity.

Sir Willow
01-16-2006, 11:02 AM
^ Pfft, the height adds a heck of a lot to the intensity.

High roller was a lame coaster, but because of the height, it actually had something to it. XScream on the ground would be rather boring. But put it over 900 feet in the air and it's probably one of the scariest rides I've ever been on.

You bet that height will add to the intensity.

BGWfanatic
01-16-2006, 10:47 PM
what about a S&S scream'n swing, where it swings you out over the edge on both sides, I dont know about anyone else, but that would scare the hech out of me!

Bencerisback
01-17-2006, 05:29 PM
That skyjump thing would be way scary. You would get that tingly feeling for so long.

I would like to see a coaster go off the stratosphere between 700 and 900 ft. A few years ago there were very heavy rumors of a 700 ft coaster off the stratosphere, but that didnt happen.

I also liked the idea of a flyer that goes over the edge a few times and the best would be a screaming squirrel that goes over the edge and then comes back.

apsterling
01-17-2006, 06:09 PM
another crazed and caffeineated ideA. a Tower ride takingover one of the elevators to get you to the top's spot, like ToT@WDW:MGM or ToT@WDL:CA

Jerry S
01-17-2006, 06:23 PM
I actually had a weird idea last July. The day before I went to Great America, I went to the top of the Hancock Center. I was thinking, it would be so cool if in the center of the building, on the observation deck, you could load yourself into a drop tower seat, nd then the floor drops below you, revealing 1000 feet of nothing below your feet, and the car drops, and then quickly comes back up and you get off. For the bottom 500 feet, you would be floating because of terminal velocity probably. It would be cool to apply that idea to the one above mine.

Rex
01-18-2006, 09:18 AM
that would be awesome, but considering the laws of physics, it would be expensive as hell, and even if you did it perfectly, from 1000 feet, it would only be about 2-3 seconds of aerial freedom.

What bEnCeRiSbACk said though, a screaming squirrel that ends up going upside-down over the edge, THAT would be awesome. Asell as actually POSSIBLE. I would love to see that...

dukeandPCfan
01-18-2006, 05:47 PM
those ideas are all awesome.. im sure they'd be able to add a screamin squirrel, b/c they already have a good relationship with S&S...

a drop ride down the tower would be pretty expensive/hard to do but would be enjoyable.. im sure the next thing will be something like a flat or a small coaster like the screamin squirrel, and then in the next few years a look into the coaster down the tower idea... its bound to happen, sometime soon..

Rex
01-19-2006, 02:47 PM
well, maybe not SOON, but eventually...

Johnny Upsidedown
05-26-2006, 03:17 PM
Here is the latest on the Strat tower upgrade. It appears no new rides will be added to the top of the tower. They want to build a night club on the top floors.
http://www.casinocitytimes.com/news/article.cfm?contentID=158647

LAS VEGAS, Nevada -- The Stratosphere is approaching the city about building a nightclub atop its centerpiece tower in place of the roller coaster, which was shut down in December.

Stratosphere executives were to present a site plan to the Las Vegas City Planning Commission on Thursday night. The idea is to build a 6,880-square-foot nightclub 900 feet above Las Vegas. The nightclub would be on the tower's 111th and 112th level and include an outside revolving observation deck.

SPCMT
02-13-2008, 02:24 AM
Sorry to bring back such an old thread but I figured it was better than making a new one... I believe I read the Terms right when they said links in posts are allowed, if not I apologize in advanced...but according to http://www.rollercoasterworld.com/Featured/VegasTower/Tower.htm, the Stratosphere is wanting to add a new coaster...as you can see it will be about 720 feet tall (more than twice Millennium Force!) so its not quite at 1000 yet...well enjoy!

Ryan F
02-13-2008, 07:53 AM
Check the date of that article...It's from 2001.
That coaster idea was speculated for awhile, but it never happened, and never will happen.
I mean, the article even says that Arrow was going to build the ride. That should give you some sense about it...Arrow has been out of business for years now.

Leo C
02-13-2008, 10:22 AM
That's painfully old. It goes to show my age on this site. It's during the age of Arrow's last legs: X.

SPCMT
02-13-2008, 10:35 AM
Check the date of that article...It's from 2001.
That coaster idea was speculated for awhile, but it never happened, and never will happen.
I mean, the article even says that Arrow was going to build the ride. That should give you some sense about it...Arrow has been out of business for years now.

Oh wow I didnt even think to look at the date...Im really sorry about that and thanks for pointing that out!

Leo C
02-13-2008, 12:04 PM
It's an interesting, weird design but it's painful to bring back just yet to recall.