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floorless58
06-30-2001, 03:43 PM
I'm pretty new to these boards, but I've read about arguements for and against rankings. The people for rankings usually say that they support them because they like the cool picture next to their names, and frankly, I'm inclined to agree with them. However the anti-ranking people say it encourages spamming, competition, and belittling. I feel that's a valid arguement, though I feel a bit of competiton is always good.
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<BR>Perhapps a middle of the road compromise would be rankings based on words posted, and not on number of posts. That way people that don't feel like posting on every-other-topic can attain a high ranking by posting intelligently and thoughtfully! We could still have the track pictures, and there wouldn't a spam problem. It seems like a good idea to me, because it seems foolish to let people "lol", "me too", and "no" all the way to giga poster. (No offense to high ranking, intelligent posters like Medusa and Kraken etc!) I think it would be a good idea, but would it bog down the server? Please consider my idea even though I am a "Junior Poster".
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<BR>Thanks a lot!
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Yankee Cannonball
06-30-2001, 04:18 PM
I like your idea a lot. It seems like a good compromise. I consider it just as good coming from a junior poster as a hyper poster.
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<BR>However, there are a few problems. First, I'm not very skilled with computers, but I imagine that it might be difficult to program the rankings to be based on words. Second, it promotes rephrasing what you have to say over and over, just to boost your word count. Third, would quoting another person count as words? How about at the bottom of your post when it says, "This message edited by Yankee Cannonball at 17:03..."
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<BR>Your idea is good in essence, but there are a few bugs to work out.

Nosk8er
06-30-2001, 07:34 PM
no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no.......
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<BR> i do not like your idea......
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<BR>wonder how far up that would have moved me in the rankings

floorless58
06-30-2001, 08:27 PM
<IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif"> I guess so, but if you could get my idea to work, I don't think it would be too hard to make it so repeated words not count towards your ranking. Whatever, well thanks for actually responding.

Sir Willow
06-30-2001, 08:37 PM
Hmmm, interesting idea. One that I haven't seen done or talked about elsewhere.
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<BR>They've posted a couple of possible problems. The other that I wonder about, especially since I'm not a programer, is how easy that might be to implement in the programming.
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<BR>But it is one possible option for a compromise. I'm not sure what others there might be yet.

Tim
07-02-2001, 07:02 PM
What about getting a ranking based on quality? Basically what I'm thinking of is a system like the one used on Slashdot. Moderators would rate (1-5) the quality of the post. Obviously most survivor games or poll questions would get a 1, while creative/intriguing/interesting answers would be rated higher. This puts more control in the hands of the moderators, which people would most likely complain about, but I think they would be objective in the long run.

Tyler Eaves
07-02-2001, 07:09 PM
As a fellow . reader, I really like that idea!
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beltzies64
07-02-2001, 09:40 PM
Magicsquid, that is a great idea! However, it sounds like a lot of work for the mods to rate every single post, especially with the size of this community!

Sir Willow
07-02-2001, 11:10 PM
oh gosh, I can't keep up with the posts most of the time as it is. Now you want me to grade them to? <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_eek.gif">
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<BR>And then of course you're taking the risk that if I, or another mod, don't like you for some reason that we don't let our personal feelings get in the way of the grade.
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<BR>While it might be a nice idea in a perfect world, I wouldn't trust it in action. Sorry, just my opinion.
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Tom Zeliff
07-03-2001, 12:25 AM
I have to agree with George on this one. I really don't think any of the mods have the time to sift through and read every single post and grade them, plus I can't see many of the members being very happy if a somewhat biased or not very well liked mod was allowed to grade their posts.
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Tim
07-03-2001, 07:16 AM
There's a fix. Instead of only allowing moderators to "grade" the posts, you can have meta-moderation do the job as well. People (meaning regular posters) can meta-mod as many posts as they want, but the grade won't stick until 4-5 other posters also meta-mod that post, then an average could be taken. This may be messy to program, but where there is a will there's a way. Personally I think that the way it is now should be just fine. If there is spam then the moderator can delete the message, and the spammer wouldn't get credit for it. No matter what happens, someone will always be complaining about the moderators, but there must be something they like here because they keep coming back.

Amy
07-03-2001, 02:15 PM
When you have everyone grading the posts it gets messy. When people grade posts base on how well they like a person. Say Tyler Eaves (sorry Ty, but you're a prime example!) posts, well someone who dislikes him isn't going to give him a high quality rating.
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Tim
07-03-2001, 06:38 PM
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<BR>When you have everyone grading the posts it gets messy. When people grade posts base on how well they like a person. Say Tyler Eaves (sorry Ty, but you're a prime example!) posts, well someone who dislikes him isn't going to give him a high quality rating.
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<BR>That's true, which is why you'd have to have multiple people grading the same post. In the end it probably just isn't worth the hassle.

coaster man098
07-05-2001, 08:55 PM
good idea, and it would put me up above medusa probably because i post alot longer posts than him. also, this would be very hard to program, and would cause some CHEATERS to use only small words while using lots of words to boost their count. i still think theirs some unfairness in that. i think we should also be able to rate members, like they do on danimation, so their are multiple rankings.

VTD
07-06-2001, 12:40 AM
this wouldn't work because spam that was once simply this...
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<BR>"cool"
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<BR>will be turned into this...
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<BR>"cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool "
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<BR>but on a more serious note, I really doubt that this forum is capable of counting words and doing what you say, though i could be wrong

RCTfreak
07-10-2001, 09:47 PM
And another thing along with that is for the different ranks it will have to be very big numbers in between ranks or else we will run out or coasters LOL!
<BR>No really I think that idea would be kool.
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serpent king
07-10-2001, 11:04 PM
i like the ranking they use now..i dont think they should change it.

Raleighpensfan
07-14-2001, 12:03 PM
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<BR>When you have everyone grading the posts it gets messy. When people grade posts base on how well they like a person. Say Tyler Eaves (sorry Ty, but you're a prime example!) posts, well someone who dislikes him isn't going to give him a high quality rating.
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<BR>That's true, which is why you'd have to have multiple people grading the same post. In the end it probably just isn't worth the hassle.
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<BR>It is too subjective. One person may have a good opinion, and one may not. We have this in NC classrooms with our 4th grade writing tests. They get sent to the state to be read by two people and each gives a score 0-4. If they are different, they are averaged. Let's say one person gets a 3 and another a 4, so the score is a 3.5. This may sound good for on here, but it adds to mods and others work. Plus there is an ELABORATE rubric that is used to grade each story. I am sure mods don't want to come up with a rubric and use it each time they grade a post. Can you imagine?

Raleighpensfan
07-14-2001, 12:04 PM
By the way, on a scale of 1-10 I give my last post above a 10. <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">
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<BR>This post is only about a 7 since it is responding to my last one

slipknot8527
07-14-2001, 11:40 PM
WAIT WAIT! I dont have time to make my posts intricate and in essay form. I get right to the point. Jus because some people go on and on they have a higher ranking? No no no no....terrible idea

antfarm007
07-17-2001, 10:13 AM
Nobody beats me out for super long posts, but this is a bad idea, <b>you will</b> see that people will change "Thats a good idea!" to "That is a really, really good idea!!!"

Raleighpensfan
07-17-2001, 02:48 PM
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<BR>Nobody beats me out for super long posts, but this is a bad idea, <b>you will</b> see that people will change "Thats a good idea!" to "That is a really, really good idea!!!"
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<BR>Amen Amen Amen Amen Amen Amen, Yes Indeed Amen. <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif"> <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif"> <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif"> (will smileys count as words??) <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif"> <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">