View Full Version : Down with standups!

05-05-2001, 10:14 PM
I have ridden every single B&M standup and they are all severely dissapointing. They try to WOW us with going through elements while standing up, when in actuality, it doesn't feel any different than sitting down.
<BR>The seating is terrible too, along with the loading times. The only standup I like is the Georgia Scorcher. Although it only has 2 loops, it has breathtaking hills and turns. It also has a bunny hill where you lean to the right until your parallel to the ground! All others need the wrecking ball...or floorless trains.

05-05-2001, 10:40 PM
Umm, are you trying to start a flame-war? On other boards I've been to, thats what these kind of topics turn into... Not to mention it's much more effective to say "Why stand-ups are bad" instead of "Down with stand-ups!"
<BR>It just sounds better that way, and less likely to upset people.
<BR>Oh, and the wrecking ball or floorless trains? Neither would work. Your center of gravity would change on a floorless, resulting in more of a rough ride! Wrecking ball? NO! That would destroy a huge piece of B&M history (Iron Wolf.)
<BR>If you don't like them, don't ride them. I myself don't think that the stand-up I've been on is smooth by any means (Iron Wolf), but I would take it over no coaster, and it adds divercity to a park's coaster collection. But again, if you don't like them, don't ride them, that makes shorter lines for everyone else!
<BR>Deja Vu & V2, can life get any better? Add Viper!!! ...uh... wait. It's already there! ROCK ON SFGAm!<BR><BR><font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: TravisBiggar on 2001-05-05 22:45 ]</font>

coaster man098
05-05-2001, 10:43 PM
NO! i love standups. and anway. we have our share of floorless coasters, and B+M can't just simply change trains, because the demitions are slighty diffrent and the car weight could make the ride speed diffrent and mess up the ride.

05-05-2001, 10:43 PM
Yeah, I agree. Down with 'em! I hate the bicycle type seats they use. As my brother once said, "The coaster was good, the digging in the crotch was bad."

05-05-2001, 11:26 PM
No. Keep them.

05-28-2001, 02:19 PM
They are fun especially airtime. Everyone would love stand ups if they had more airtime. The loops aren't to interesting so hills would be nice.

05-28-2001, 02:33 PM
Why does everyone find B&M standup seats uncomfortable? I rode Mantis and found the only problem with the ride to be the terrible braking all over the course. TOGO standups I can understand! THe only other standup I have ridden is KING COBRA at PKI. OUCH!! Not exactly the same seats, but the harnesses hurt my shoulders and the other restraints hurt my back a lot.
<BR>If Mantis's seats did not have all that wonderful B&M padding, it would hurt.
<BR>Overall, though, I have to agree that the standup design is not as big a deal as some people try to make it; it's just gimmickry and usually does not (ok, never does) improve a ride experience.

05-28-2001, 03:46 PM
To feel the pain you must be must be a male. If you didn't feel it you are lucky.

05-28-2001, 04:00 PM
i have never thought of b&m stand up trains to do anything but utterly please me. riddlers is so comfortable that you forget your standing

05-28-2001, 05:30 PM
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<BR>They are fun especially airtime. Everyone would love stand ups if they had more airtime. The loops aren't to interesting so hills would be nice.
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<BR>Very true the negative G's are awesome, But the positive and lateral are way too much, so much that they make the negative G's not worth it. Id rather be sitting.

Tom Zeliff
05-28-2001, 05:34 PM
I've never had a problem with the Stand Up trains from B&M. All you have to do is keep your feet flat on the floor to support yourself and you're fine. Just make sure that you're not sitting on your "junk" when you're riding! It's not that hard. I used to operate Riddler's Revenge and I know that most of the uncomfortable rides result because someone was bouncing up and down in the seat and it locked into a bad position. If you just follow the rules you'll be fine. And if you still don't like stand ups after all that, then don't go on them and the rest of us will have shorter lines. <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">

05-28-2001, 05:55 PM
Ive only been on one stand up(2 by june 4, which will be mantis)Batman the escape. There is one loop, and it one of 2 intamin stand ups. The B&M ppl made it while they worked woth intanin. there are to patches of air time, and the feeling is awesome. i love standups. dont gert rid of them. (although i do think some of the seats could be more comfotable)

05-28-2001, 07:25 PM
I think that all of them should be built under a certain height. It seems like spots of +G's that one would feel on sitdowns, are greatly amplified on standups. It feels uncomfortable to the legs and doesn't help the ride in any way IMO. The most effective standup I've ridden was Georgia Scorcher, which has a drop under 100 feet. It's comfortable and fun, but not too intense. Iron Wolf was once this way also, but it suffers from extremely loose seats that shake like hell. If it got some of the new style B&M trains, it would be a top 10.

05-28-2001, 07:56 PM
I bet they do feel different you just don't like them

05-28-2001, 10:27 PM
Well, I must say, that I do not mind stand-ups from B&M but from TOGO-OWWIE.

05-28-2001, 10:32 PM
Try marching when your on a stand up. I tried it on Vortex and loved it!

05-29-2001, 12:46 AM
I (male)never or any of my other male friends have had a problem on a stand up coaster. Just stand right, straightup without your goods under you and you'll be fine. The other day, I don't know if I stood differently or what, but a couple times on Iron Wolf, my feet even came off the floor slightly which was really cool.

05-29-2001, 12:46 AM
By the way, ladies, what do you think of stand up coasters?

05-29-2001, 03:11 AM
I'm not a big fan of stand-ups either. However, I do like Riddler's Revenge except sitting in the back section because all of the g-forces hurt my legs. But i do think floorless, sit down and inverted coasters in general are much better than stand-ups.

05-29-2001, 09:05 AM
My first stand up at PKI in 1984 was the King Kobra. If anything, I thought it was a novelty. But they are still building them.
<BR>Although I have ridden Vortex at Carowinds, Mantis at CP, and Riddlers Revenge at SFMM, I still don't see all the hype. Gimme a well designed sit down any day.

05-29-2001, 09:26 AM
I love standups but I'm just too short and light so that, unless there's an empty seat next to you, you cannot pull the seat down. Sometimes, The ride ops don't check so I'm stuck in the air! When those possitive g's at the bttom of the drop where you are still facing down a little bit, IT HURTS!

Erik Johnson
05-29-2001, 11:38 AM
I love B&M stand-ups. I'm a male of height 5'11" and have never had a problem with comfort on the rides. They get tiring after a few rides, but they're really fun. The elements are great, and the swift changes of direction on Mantis are cool. I say not only keep 'em, but build more!