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CaliforniaCoasterKing
05-06-2001, 02:12 AM
What is so big about Millennium Force besides it's hills. I mean it look to be great coaster and i really wanna ride it but i just think people need to get over it. It's cool. Wow. A lot of coasters are cool. we need to move on and get excited about the new 2001 coasters like X and Phantom's Revenge. GET OVER MF!
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IOArules
05-06-2001, 02:23 AM
Whats so big about MF?
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<BR>ALL OF IT! <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">
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<BR>The thing is 310ft. and it goes 95mph. It also has an 80 degree drop. Hmmmm, its third hill as just about as tall as X's first, not to mention it has ejection air along with the 120ft. one going back the other way. I almost for gorgot about the sweet overbanked turns. And yes, it is very cool!
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<BR>Aren't X and PR cool? I don't get what your saying about a lot of coasters being cool. I think X will be cool. With a 200ft. face first drop, but why get excited yet when they haven't done more than lay footers for it.
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CaliforniaCoasterKing
05-06-2001, 02:30 AM
First of all i adressed the big hills. 2nd it goes 92 mph not 95. Third it is very cool but we need to begin looking at other coasters and get over MF. And i know X only has the footers in. And so what it MF has an 80 degree drop x will have like a 90 or 89 degree drop. I'm not sayin stop talking about it i'm just saying quit talking so much about it and making others sound bad compared to it.

slipknot8527
05-06-2001, 02:36 AM
I agree that it is stupid to dwell on one coaster...but this thing is just, absolutely incredible. Not many coasters impress me... but all that raw speed in this ride is incredible. I wouldn't stand up for any other coaster besides this one. I'll admit when I saw the layout I was like, "Okay. Nothing special." Trust me, when you see that thing on the horizon as you approach the park, you lose all rational thought. So I can understand where your coming from since you've never ridden it, but I mean...you have to experience this thing. When I tell everyone my fav. coaster I say Apollos Chariot cuz to compare anything to MF is just unfair. The only ride I have ridden that I still remember every second. To look at pics and videos is one thing...but to ride it...that is something else my friend. See where Im coming from?

CoolCoasterKid
05-06-2001, 09:46 AM
Well, not to be picky, but MF actually goes 93 mph. Second of all, people are still talking about The Beast and The Coney Island Cyclone a bit, and they've been around for many years, so what's wrong about talking about the best coaster in the world at the best park in the world when it's been around for a year? Yeah, there are coming out that look really cool (X, Batwing, Deja Vu), but nothing compares to Millennium Force.

Jab
05-06-2001, 10:07 AM
Yes, I think we should get excited about the new coasters, and we all are! Millenium Foce is special, and I think it deserves our awe, but so does everything else. <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">

eggs
05-06-2001, 10:25 AM
Don't tell people to stop talking about it when you haven't even been on it yet. And aren't we supposed to talk about our favorite coasters? This IS a forum after all.
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CaliforniaCoasterKing
05-07-2001, 12:43 AM
Hey you are taking me all wrong. I think this coaster is awsome and a work of art i'm just saying we need toy bring up other coasters too because we can only say MF is a great coaster so many times.

Kevin Winkler
05-07-2001, 02:07 AM
All I can say is.... ride it and you will know exactly what is so special...and you are in for a treat if you get a front seat...its religious. I got it twice in 2 days, and i must say..NOTHING tops it!

ucdaap42
05-07-2001, 02:26 AM
Coasterking...until you ride MF, shut up...

robvia
05-07-2001, 07:05 AM
I've never gone sky diving, but now I have a feeling of what it's like after riding MF.
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<BR>On the first drop, you come up off your seat by an inch, you hold your hands up, and you're falling with your stomach facing the ground just like a sky diver. You're floating down that first hill. It seems to last forever, it just keeps going, and going.
<BR>After that, the ride never lets up because of the speed.
<BR>You have to ride it. This is why everyone is begging for an Intamin Giga at their park, nothing compares.

Halation
05-07-2001, 12:10 PM
Kalifornia King, people wont shut up about it because it is The Most Incredible Roller Coaster Ever. If You Haven't ridden it, shut the hell up. Yes, it IS ALL ABOUT THE DARN HILLS. And SPEED. Unless you have actually ridden it, you have NO IDEA!!! Yes X looks incredible, but what are we going to start a war between Magic Mountain and Cedar Point, how juvenile. (Cedar Point would win anyway, ha!).<BR><BR><font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Erik Johnson on 2001-05-08 21:19 ]</font>

TheBigLooper
05-07-2001, 12:12 PM
I know you love your state CA, and it does have some nice roller coasters, Goliath et. al. but the fact of the matter is that the best steel and wood coasters are not on the west coast. Come over to the "east-side" sometime, there are a LOT more of them out this way and you'll love it!

Cameron Parker
05-07-2001, 12:58 PM
CaliforniaCoasterKing:
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<BR>Who are you to judge something you haven't experienced?

PaulBoy
05-07-2001, 02:30 PM
coasterking.... Once you ride it, you won't stop talking about it either.

slayer666
05-07-2001, 03:06 PM
if you have never ridden MF, dont say n e thing about it. all i have to say is MF makes goliath look like a kiddie coaster,

skatestreet
05-07-2001, 04:07 PM
Hey, why don't we get excited about ALL coasters? Go Iron Dragon! Yeah! Go Roadrunner Express!
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ucdaap42
05-07-2001, 07:20 PM
I don't know why, but our wonderful moderator deleted this post of mine. I guess it's bad to use the word as* [my censoring] I'm sorry if I offended anybody.
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CaliforniaCoasterKing
05-07-2001, 07:42 PM
You guys i didn't say i hated it and that you should never talk about it again. I HELLA wanna ride it. It looks SOOOOO awsome and fun. I was just sayn that it is unfair to put every other coaster down by comparing it to MF. Thats all! I Mean there are other great coasters out there but they are all put down because they aren't as high or as fast but I've ridden some rides that are slow and I LOVED them . I'm just sayin that you shouln't act supirior cause you've ridden a TALL and FAST coaster. I gets annoying to people that Haven't ridden it and feel like all there coasters suck because you guys say you have been on way better. How do you think that makes people that haven't ridden it feel? It makes us feel like CRAP! if you go to my site you would see that MF is on my list of coasters I'm dieing to ride.

VTD
05-07-2001, 07:53 PM
I have ridden it, and its a great ride, but I prefer SROS at SFNE

coasterboaster
05-07-2001, 11:23 PM
can any back this statement up. i heard i think from thrill ride that at millennium force the workers their have clocked it at over 100mph on the right day. If true thats insane.
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ucdaap42
05-07-2001, 11:35 PM
There's no reason to talk bad about a coaster A. because you've never ridden it and B. because everyone else loves it. That would be like a virgin bashing sex....
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CaliforniaCoasterKing
05-07-2001, 11:56 PM
OMG! I'M NOT PUTTING IT DOWN!!! I"M ASKING THAT YOU DON'T USE IT AS A PUT DOWN TOWARDS OTHER COASTERS!!! QUIT MAKING ME LOOK LIKE SUCH A BAD GUY!!!

CaliforniaCoasterKing
05-08-2001, 12:14 AM
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<BR>Buddy, Millennium Force's drop beats Goliath's by soo much that hearin that makes me wanna puke. The Force is the best hands down, even better than the Steel Phantom.
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<BR>I found this quote in another topic putting down someones choie for goliath as their favorit coaster and if you got mad at me this is exactly what i'm talkin about!!! People use this coaster to be better and make people feel infirior. People just use this coaster to make themselves feel better than others. I Think Superman The Escape is the best but i suppose your gonna give me that "It's not a true roller coaster". well thats bull $h*t and you know it! Everyone says that cause S:TE is taller and faster than MF. And I bet if you guys ride Superman you would love this coaster. Same with Goliath and Titan MF has nothin on Goliaths Helix and both Titan's Helix's So just SHUT UP about making MF better than everything. If you haven't noticed MF held the record for the tallest and fastest CONSECUTIVE coaster. Which was taken Away 2 months later by Steel Dragon 2000 might i add. Superman holds the record for tallest and fastest coaster in the world so what do you have to say about that!!! Maybe you should ride Superman And see what i'm talking about befor you judge it!
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ucdaap42
05-08-2001, 01:31 AM
we're not making you look bad, you just should accept that there are good coasters elsewhere besides california...maybe it's your signature that throws people off. I know you're partial to coasters and they're great. You need to get over California coasters. They are cool but enough is enough!

DrachenFire96
05-08-2001, 04:12 AM
I can feel the love in this room <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif"> seriously though, I can see why people rave for the MF. It is one of the best in the world, and yes comparing it with other coasters in America is pretty much destroying the other coasters chances for fame. I admit, one of my goals this Summer is to tackle the MF. Maybe I will be one of these MF freaks afterwards, who knows, but I have yet to find a single coaster I didnt like. I don't bash the Big Bad Wolf after riding Nitro. They aren't in the same class. So I can't compare MF with the likes of Nitro, the smaller coaster couldn't compete, but it still doesn't make it any less a great coaster.

Jonathan Gelert
05-08-2001, 10:00 AM
OK, people, be nice.
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<BR> Now MF might be, and probably is, a better coaster than Goliath (I've never ridden MF). And I must say, it looks like a quality ride (of course it is, Werner Stengal worked on it). I've seen the POV for MF, I've seen pictures, and I've seen the stats. It's definitely near the top of the list of coasters I want to ride. This seems to be CaliforniaCoasterKing's opinion as well.
<BR> However, both he and I agree that MF seems to be "overdone." We understand that it's a great ride, but we don't understand why it gets so much more exposure than any other ride on these boards. Let me make this clear: WE ARE NOT DISSING MILLENNIUM FORCE. We want to ride it as much as the next guy, if not more. So be nice to us.

Lukedog
05-08-2001, 10:04 AM
The point is that anyone can praise or put down any coaster they want, as long as they have ridden it. Nobody has to stop talkin' about MF if they love it that much. This thread is going nowhere IMO.

coaster man098
05-08-2001, 10:34 AM
i agree with VTD, SROS at SFNE is better, but MF is a great top 5 coaster. it is over rated but also great

ucdaap42
05-08-2001, 01:05 PM
CaliforniaCoasterKing is dissing MF with his signature...he's overdoing CA coasters with his name and signature......enough is enough!

coastergenius100
05-08-2001, 01:11 PM
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<BR>Well, not to be picky, but MF actually goes 93 mph. Second of all, people are still talking about The Beast and The Coney Island Cyclone a bit, and they've been around for many years, so what's wrong about talking about the best coaster in the world at the best park in the world when it's been around for a year? Yeah, there are coming out that look really cool (X, Batwing, Deja Vu), but nothing compares to Millennium Force.
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<BR>Actually it's still under degression which is the best coaster in the world, and Cedar Point is definately not the best anymore. So you can't use that in an argument.

ucdaap42
05-08-2001, 01:20 PM
ok, genius
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<BR>what is your basis for saying CP isn't the best anymore? which park is the best and why? please enlighten us....
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Jonathan Gelert
05-08-2001, 01:31 PM
I'm not coastergenius100 (duh!) but, isn't everyone entitled to their opinions? Can't CaliforniaCoasterKing say what he wants in his signature without you guys bothering him? This is a mod's worst nightmare. If he wants to say that California's coasters are coolest, that's his problem.
<BR> Oh yeah, Islands of Adventure is the best park in the world. Really, get over it, people.

ucdaap42
05-08-2001, 01:32 PM
jonathan gelert, i was responding to the message directly above mine (duh!)

CoolCoasterKid
05-08-2001, 01:46 PM
Ok, coaster genius, then why has it been that for the past three years, Cedar Point has been voted the best amusement park in the world by a respected park rater (I forget the name right now)? Also, Magnum XL-200 has been rated the best steel coaster in the world for the past ten years by NAPHA, and this year MF came in as #2 and Raptor came in as #4 on their steel coaster list. Yet another thing, Cedar Point got rated #1 in four categories of Thrillride!'s 2000 reader's poll, including best steel coaster, best thrill ride, best park, and best freefall ride. Plus, CP got 5 Coaster's choice awards and 7 nominations out of 10 categories on CoasterBuzz.com's poll (more than any other park). Finally, CP has the most continuous-circuit roller coasters in the world right now. Is it an absolute fact that CP is the best park in the world? No. However, is it usually considered to be, in my opinion and many others' opinions? Yes. I'm not saying that SFMM and all their coasters are bad, I'm just saying that until SFMM builds a bigger, longer, faster coaster than MF, CP has the edge, at least in my opinion.

RCman4
05-08-2001, 01:53 PM
I think if there is so much hype about it there is a reason. i have ridden it many a time and there is a good reason that people are hooked on it. It is my favorite coaster by far. People do talk about x a lot. People have been talking about MF for a long time and it deserves it. And 310 ft? That is hard to believe, you have no idea how long that almost striagth down drop is. it is simply incredible. seriously, there is a good reason for all of the talk about it and if you rode it you definatley would be talking just as much. trust me.

chelly913
05-08-2001, 08:36 PM
I wish I could ride all of the hypers accross the country, but that is not likely in the near future. For now, SROS at SFNE is my favorite (even though the park leaves a lot to be desired). I have not ridden MF yet, but I did watch it being built on the web cam they had and have seen all of the pictures, videos, etc - and I must say I drool every time I see it and dream about riding it!!!!!

arlok2
05-08-2001, 08:43 PM
all of the people banging on coaster king should grow up. Wow i rode it over a weekend trip to the point. and to tell you the truth the first drop was great but otherwise i think you are overrating it. 1 drop and some air is not ass good as nitro. a drop almost as good and much more air and the best helix and a better overbanked turn. plus the front with those b&m seats is way better than forces front cause the drop does not look that much taller and once you go so fast the wind only does so much so do not diss him. Many a california relative say that goliath is better than it anyway.

arlok2
05-08-2001, 08:49 PM
napha mean nothing they are stupid. Headbanging city phantom was on their top ten list. they also seam to think that the thunderbolt that bored me to death is a good coaster

CaliforniaCoasterKing
05-08-2001, 09:02 PM
My Screen Name is only becaus i like california coasters and i live in california. If i mad a SN that said OHIOCOASTERKING then it would be a little weird you think? And you know what if you guyr gonna get all worked up and through a hissy fit about it i take it back and you can brag all you want. Oh and you all forget! MF doesn't even hold a record! whats so great about that?

Erik Johnson
05-08-2001, 09:23 PM
Okay, folks, I'm seeing some things I don't like on this thread. First of all, let's cut down on the profanity, particularly ucdaap42. Secondly, we don't like when people's pesky caps lock keys get stuck down. It's harder to read.
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ucdaap42
05-08-2001, 10:48 PM
Thank you Mr. Moderator...i see you read my posts. Apparently you have a different definition of profanity than anyone else. If you'd care to share it with me and the rest of the board, that would be great. If you're going to accuse me of something, please be truthful in the accusation, because I hate liars. I really hate liars that are in charge of something. It would be very mature if you apologized to me and lying about me. Please act in a manner befitting to a moderator. Thank you for your time, but please spend more time reading posts in the groups you moderate so you can get your facts straight.

IslandKG
05-08-2001, 11:51 PM
Millennium Force is a unique experience. I think that even those who have dubbed it a "one drop wonder" would agree to that. However, some people have the impression that MF is overrated & not all it's cracked up to be. I jave noticed 2 reasons why:
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<BR>1.) They don't live anywhere near Cedar Point, so thinking that MF isn't all it's cracked up to be makes them feel like they're not missing much. 2.) MF received a lot of hype, anticipation, and attention (arguably the most of all year 2000 coasters), so it's very difficult for a coaster to live up to those expectations.
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<BR>But it still is an amazing coaster. To quote someone else in this forum: it's a work of art. Most people exit MF wide-eyed and excited; it really gets your adrenaline pumping. And the fact that it lacks a mid-course brake makes it a non-stop rush.
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<BR>I think that if the people who don't live near CP ever get the chance to ride MF in the future, they might be surprised how intense it is, and how incredible it is to ride it at night when it's lit up. And if the people who had ridiculously high expectations of it last year--and were a little disappointed--would ride it again this season, they might also be reminded of how unbelievable MF is.
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<BR>It's an insane coaster. Sure. But don't let it overshadow other coasters in the park. Ex: the Gemini. The Gemini doesn't hold any records, but IMO it's just as fun as the Force.

CaliforniaCoasterKing
05-09-2001, 12:13 AM
Hey Johnson! I agree with ucdaap42. Afeter reading your post i went through and cound NO profanity. Even though he probobly sinceirly dislikes me cause they think i hate MF (which i don't it's first on my list for coasters to ride) I don't think you should make false accusations on any coaster fan to lesen their enjoy ment in this forum. I THINK you ne need to apologize or maybe we should write a complaint letter to Thrill ride saying you are abuseing your privliges and acting as though you are on a higher level than us than others!
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ucdaap42
05-09-2001, 02:47 AM
I wholeheartedly second that motion! And I don't sincerely dislike you at all CoasterKing, i was reacting to the way people classify parks, rides, etc as being better than another Park with certain rides with no basis of comparison and no objective reasoning or methods. Your signature was a prime example of that and I never meant as a personal attack. Also, I sent a private message to the moderator to let him know the error of his ways but he has not responded to me <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_frown.gif"> later, man
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gttp
05-09-2001, 12:51 PM
MF matches everything CP has ever put into the park. BIGGEST and BEST of that time. All their coasters make other parks coasters look small. I have been on both coasts and nothing is even close to MF or CP. If you have never been on MF then try to get there soon. You will agree. CP is the world's best park, with the best coasters.

ucdaap42
05-09-2001, 01:51 PM
No no....CP is what some consider the best park and has what some would consdier the best coasters. You are entitled to your own opinion, but remember, it's your own opinion, so don't force it on others.
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ucdaap42
05-09-2001, 02:02 PM
I just recieved a private message from our moderator, eric johnson, and he used profanity....talk about a hypocrite. I won't post the actual message because it is a private message, but I just want to let you all know who you're dealing with. Later
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Da Prankstah
05-09-2001, 03:03 PM
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<BR>Oh and you all forget! MF doesn't even hold a record! whats so great about that?
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<BR>Does every coaster need to be a record breaker? After all, some of the greatest roller coasters hold no records, including your beloved Goliath (Correct me if I'm wrong). And Nitro, I don't think it holds any records. And what record does S:RoS hold? Thank you. My point is:
<BR><b>A good coaster doesn't need to break any records!</b>
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ucdaap42
05-09-2001, 03:49 PM
Hey, according to the forum topic page, this thread has beein viewed 642 times already <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif"> Good job everyone..keep up the good work.
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CoolCoasterKid
05-09-2001, 04:01 PM
About that MF doesn't have any records, it actually does. Although most of the original ten that it claimed have now been taken away, it still holds claim to the "First coaster to utilize a cable lift system" and "first coaster to top 300 feet" (continuous ciruit, they mean). Also, according to rcdb.com, MF is the tallest, fastest, longest, and has the biggest drop on any steel continuous-circuit coaster in North America. The last one's not much of a record now, but it's just something to think about.

CaliforniaCoasterKing
05-09-2001, 07:16 PM
what happened this used to be a popular subject???

Erik Johnson
05-09-2001, 09:02 PM
Let me explain myself to ucdaap and everyone else. I edited ucdaap's post and replaced the "a word" with butt. After that, I warned him as well as the rest of you about being appropriate with language. I'm just following my instructions. <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">
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<BR>I also quoted the word that ucdaap used that caused this problem. If he calls that actually using profanity, then I'm sorry.
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Kraken
05-09-2001, 09:14 PM
Millenium Force IS great. It is the magnum of Giga coasters! But remember how they outdid Magnum? In the future new 350 drop rides will make people complain about how boring Millie is, just like they do Magnum now!

CaliforniaCoasterKing
05-11-2001, 12:41 AM
since no one really argues any more lets make this subject about MF and the coasters that come close to it or ones in your view is better.

Antuan
05-11-2001, 11:34 AM
Some serious drama up in here, ANYWAY, for me Millennium Force was fun while I was on it, but it didn't really leave a lasting impression as much as Superman at Darien Lake

Pulobear
05-26-2001, 02:11 PM
I traveled All the Way From NYC to Sanduky Ohio to ride MF and what ever CP has to Offer i wasent left bored in that park once! i waited 6 summers to viset and when i did i was the happiest person in the world. it was well wroth the 9hr car ride. the only thing that got me upset was the MF wait time Sign Said 4hrs but i had already rode it i think MF is a really good coaster! i mean nuthing beats the 310ft drop at 80degs face first! i wasent even toching my seat! but i think that Cp could have but a lil more effort into it. becuase after a while the over banked turns wasent all that anymore.i Give Mf a 8 out of 10,10 being the best!

Ioa Master
05-30-2001, 08:50 PM
Please refrain from posts like this
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C Tul
05-30-2001, 09:08 PM
I must say that S:ROS at SFNE is twice as good as MF.

missy185
05-30-2001, 10:04 PM
I love threads like this,it is so interesting to read........."my parks better than your park,-no mine is,....no mine!!!":lol:I find it funny.anyway,I agree with the coaster king,i dont think he was putting down anything really,but I still feel Millennium Force is the BEST!:cool:
<BR>Magnum is is awesome and I love that RAPTOR!!!!!!!:lol:
<BR>please no one flame me.....thanks:roll:
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missy185
05-30-2001, 10:06 PM
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Anaconda
05-30-2001, 10:13 PM
I think the fact that its the first coaster to top 300ft. makes it the big thing. Phantom's Revenge is just one old coaster with new elements, but I think that once a 400 footer comes out then the hype around Millennium Force will die down a lot.

bootasiatoni
05-31-2001, 12:21 PM
anaconda youre right and guess who will build the first 400 ftr CP you guess it

The Beast
05-31-2001, 04:18 PM
what are you talking about?!!?!?!?!? That post didn't make sense, and SFMM and Dreamworld already broke the 400ft barrier and yes they are coasters.

SFGAdvGal
05-31-2001, 04:21 PM
i totally agree with you (California Coaster King) i'm sure that it's a great ride, but if you ask me steel dragon looks better. its time to move on

CoastaPlaya
05-31-2001, 04:32 PM
Not with those huge, bulky Morgan trains and a shallow 60 degree drop that's a measly 8' longer than MF's. And I thought Morgan left those boring tall spirals behind after VF's WT. Some people just never learn.
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<BR>When Intamin builds a 300-foot giga with lots of hops and crossovers, we'll all move on. In the meantime, expect to hear a lot more from millions and millions of MF fans.....and don't even bother watching the Discovery channel. <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_razz.gif">
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The Beast
05-31-2001, 05:19 PM
MF is certainly a great coaster and it obviously gets credit for it, but we have moved on. I hear people talking about new rides much more than MF.

nitro
05-31-2001, 05:27 PM
cali king is right MF is a awsome ride but don't be a snob about it when other parks come out with new coasters and say o well is it a giga o it is not well then it is crap that is not right people are not even giving any of these new coasters of 2001 a chance right away they say o NITRO,PR,TITAN THEY STINK MF IS SO MUCH BETER

bootasiatoni
06-02-2001, 04:50 PM
there not coasters to me there just a cheap thrill, take me up 400ft drop me back on the ground. That's not a coaster to me

Rctman
06-02-2001, 04:58 PM
Hey beast tower of terror at dreamworld in australia is only 380 feet tall but superman is 410 but neither of them go all the way up so they haven't broken the barrier yet

eggs
06-02-2001, 05:00 PM
nitro - they're called periods.
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<BR>The building of MF simply raised the bench mark by which all roller coasters are judged. That's all I'll say on this.

arlok2
06-02-2001, 05:49 PM
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<BR>Not with those huge, bulky Morgan trains and a shallow 60 degree drop that's a measly 8' longer than MF's. And I thought Morgan left those boring tall spirals behind after VF's WT. Some people just never learn.
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<BR>When Intamin builds a 300-foot giga with lots of hops and crossovers, we'll all move on. In the meantime, expect to hear a lot more from millions and millions of MF fans.....and don't even bother watching the Discovery channel. <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_razz.gif">
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<BR>steel dragons drop is 65 and the trains are a lot less bulkey than the ones on steel force.

CoasterFan4Life
06-02-2001, 06:23 PM
i have something to say to all of you people who keep saying everyone should stop talking about this coaster or that coaster...you are only making the situation worse.while i will say that there are some who will not acnowledge any other coaster as being great other then MF, there are alot more who simply say in their opinions,nothing tops it, because they feel it is the best.and if that's the way they feel then good for them.the only people who are keeping this whole debate going, are the ones who keep complaining.so do us all a favor and stop it.
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<BR>i for one, will be going to ride MF for the first time, in a few weeks, and i CANT WAIT. i just hope i dont expect too much now, but i have no doubts it will be one of my favorites, if not THE favorite. but i will still say that nitro, medusa, S:TE,S:ROS, and many others are great rides even after i ride MF, because i believe they are.

Coasterdime
06-06-2001, 07:18 PM
I wasn't sure of the big deal....until I rode it! An absolutely great ride! I still think this thing defies gravity! The speed approaching the brakes is greater than most coasters' top speed!

LoCoSuMo
06-06-2001, 09:15 PM
Why do all you guys purposly start flame wars? CP and MM fans alike.

HatTricky2k
06-11-2001, 02:35 PM
oh course MF is gonna be the big thing of well the millenium <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif"> having never ridden it, i cant speak from experience. but for me a 300 ft 93 mph drop ALONE would be worth raving about, i remember my first hyper and the feeling that we were never goign to reach the top, but adding over 100 MORE FEET, thats INSANE. also just a little idea i had...wouldnt it be cool if they turned the cars backwards on S:TE? staring down however many feet you drop at a 90 degree angle would be a life changing experience. but i havnt ridden this one either (15 year old on the east coast)

*Bgwlover4ever12*
06-11-2001, 05:38 PM
I dont know what ur talking bout dude u crazy!!!!!!!!I havent even rode MF and i know that its 310ft 95 mph and the biggest roller coaster in the US u must be crazy no to no that its all big!

Aaron
06-11-2001, 05:41 PM
What's great about MF?
<BR>How about
<BR>122 degree turns
<BR>93 miles an hour
<BR>80 degree and 300 foot drop
<BR>310 feet tall
<BR>45 degree lift
<BR>Tallest and fastest coaster in Western Hemisphere.
<BR>Need I say more?
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Whodaman88
07-11-2001, 10:02 PM
I for one am siding with coasterking here.
<BR>MILLENIUM FORCE is the greatest coaster constructed so far on the planet earth.
<BR>That doesn't make any other coaster worse in comparison, Heck, I still like Gemini, Mantis,Magnum,Raptor,Alpengiest,SOB,FOF,Beast,ect, ect TOO! 4 words. DON'T PUT DOWN COASTERS.

dingo65
07-11-2001, 10:16 PM
Whodaman88 is very correct, putting down coasters is stupid. People can rave about it but that doesn't mean any other coaster is bad! I have ridden many coasters and Millenium Force is my personal favorite but that doesn't mean any others are bad.

Montu
07-11-2001, 10:31 PM
you must ride it to understand it

1984
07-11-2001, 10:32 PM
You said it Montu.
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Nuke1
07-11-2001, 11:06 PM
MF is awesome, that's all there is to it!

kumba 18
07-11-2001, 11:17 PM
Not to diss u california boy, but look at your favorite coaster........California Screamin!HAHAHAHhAHa

TheForce1965
07-11-2001, 11:37 PM
Hey......Y talk about the new coasters when MF just flat out rules??????!!!!!!!!! think about it

coasterfreak0206
07-18-2001, 09:33 AM
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<BR>what are you talking about?!!?!?!?!? That post didn't make sense, and SFMM and Dreamworld already broke the 400ft barrier and yes they are coasters.
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coasterbuzz
07-18-2001, 10:30 AM
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<BR>On 2001-05-06 02:12, CaliforniaCoasterKing wrote:
<BR>What is so big about Millennium Force besides it's hills. I mean it look to be great coaster and i really wanna ride it but i just think people need to get over it. It's cool. Wow. A lot of coasters are cool. we need to move on and get excited about the new 2001 coasters like X and Phantom's Revenge. GET OVER MF!
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<BR>It's so obvious you've never ridden it... Ride it... and believe...

aglebagel
07-18-2001, 11:01 AM
Going back to CoasterKing's original post-how are we supposed to talk about X? No one has ever ridden it! As soon as you ride MF you too will always talk about it. I can't wait until you join the club. I wish everyone could ride it.
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CPFan
07-18-2001, 11:06 AM
Great job, you wanted a flame war californiacoasterking. I can totally tell, because a lot of people consider MF to be there favorite ride. You don't like MF as much, probably because you have never been on it, so you try to make SFMM look better than CP by creating this topic.

MForce2k
07-21-2001, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by Jab
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I couldnt agree more, but for me personally ill stay hooked on MF ;)

CPRaptor13
07-21-2001, 12:50 PM
I've ridden Millennium force and thought it wasn't that great! It has the best drop of any coaster, but after that it was kinda dull. Very fast, but nothin else. And airtime. WHAT AIRTIME ???? You people rave aboutthe air on the 3rd hill, yet I FELT ABSOLUTELY NOTHING !!!!!! I rode Force 6 times during Coaster Mania and felt no airimte on that hill at ALL !!!!!!!!! the only air was a little bit in the front seat on that isl;an bunny hop. I fell the same way my california man does. The Beast is much better. Maybe I'll have o ride it next year and re-evaluate it.

CoasterfanNE
07-23-2001, 10:24 AM
MF is a great ride and it filled a niche in CP's diverse coaster collection. Personally, I don't see the point in starting posts to put down a ride.

CPFan
07-23-2001, 11:01 AM
MF is great.

may the FORCE be with you
07-23-2001, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by Jonathan Gelert
OK, people, be nice.
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<BR> Now MF might be, and probably is, a better coaster than Goliath (I've never ridden MF). And I must say, it looks like a quality ride (of course it is, Werner Stengal worked on it). I've seen the POV for MF, I've seen pictures, and I've seen the stats. It's definitely near the top of the list of coasters I want to ride. This seems to be CaliforniaCoasterKing's opinion as well.
<BR> However, both he and I agree that MF seems to be "overdone." We understand that it's a great ride, but we don't understand why it gets so much more exposure than any other ride on these boards. Let me make this clear: WE ARE NOT DISSING MILLENNIUM FORCE. We want to ride it as much as the next guy, if not more. So be nice to us.

Its not overdone though, that's what people who haven't ridden it don't understand. It isn't even like a coaster, its something more. Just trust Cedar Point when they say "The Future Is Riding On It". They aren't telling any lies.

Honan Beetch
07-23-2001, 02:45 PM
I have to admit that Millennium Force is one of the best coaster experiences I've had since I first rode it in 2000. Until now, the size of the coaster's first hill and that incredibly steep drop still freak me out a bit. The speed of this coaster is amazing! I mean it feels as if the coaster's trains don't even loose their speed while going through the coaster's 6,595 feet of track. It's a great ride all the way! I love it! I think that Millennium Force is going to stand out for the next few years.

Ioa Master
07-23-2001, 04:12 PM
Welcome Back To The Ioa Master's Coaster Awards And Now For The Award For "Ride Over My Dead Body" Goes To ...... Millenium Force ! ( The Award Means The Coaster I Will Never Want To Ride In My Life.

Thrill Rider
07-23-2001, 04:16 PM
You just have to ride it to understand. Words can only explain it to a certain extent. You just have to ride it to understand.

Kyle L
07-23-2001, 04:17 PM
Heloooooo, Go and RIDE IT BEFORE YOU DECIDE WHAT TO THINK!!!!!!!!!!!!, ya X sounds cool, but the first coaster to top 300 ft. thats prertty amazing, that's why Magnum is Still popular, primarily cause it's old and it was the first. You have to Ride it, it will change everything. Also, big hills are good, but the speed throught the ENTIRE ride is also very unique, SD2K has a brake run and it doesn't feel as fast as MF, halfway through the ride theyre going 60 MPH, MF goes 65, AT THE END!!!!!!!!! Ride it, but im sure to tell you you'll think differently.

Coaster Clown
07-23-2001, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by CaliforniaCoasterKing
Hey you are taking me all wrong. I think this coaster is awsome and a work of art i'm just saying we need toy bring up other coasters too because we can only say MF is a great coaster so many times.

Millennium Force is one, if not THE best coaster out there now in the US.
You want to talk about cool, well then don't even worry about PHANTOMS REVENGE because that great coaster was destroyed and turned into a P.O.S.! it's horrible, so if you want to travel all the way from California to come out to ride a cool coaster like PR, then go ahead buddy and waiste your time, might as well come to Camdem Park to ride the BIg and Little Dippers! hahahahahah

X wont' be finished til 2003 so why worry about it now!

Coaster Clown
07-23-2001, 04:41 PM
i almost forgot... the entire time on MF you dont feel like you are goign to stop, until you are in the brakes at the end!
THe entire ride is FAST, which is alot considering most rides out there (like Apollos Chariot) barely make it up the hills to go down them again... on AC you feel like you have to pray that the car willl make it over the next hill, while you're barely going 20 (if that) at the top of their hills... but on MF you are going well enough that you dont have to worrya bout slowing down and rolling backwards.... people out in CALI are just jealous that MF is better then Goliath.... sorry if our rides DONT KILL PEOPLE!

CoolCoasterKid
07-23-2001, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by Coaster Clown
sorry if our rides DONT KILL PEOPLE!

Well that wasn't SFMM's fault, and I bet you're gonna hear a lot of people now saying the same thing.

Coasterman
07-23-2001, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by Coaster Clown


Millennium Force is one, if not THE best coaster out there now in the US.
You want to talk about cool, well then don't even worry about PHANTOMS REVENGE because that great coaster was destroyed and turned into a P.O.S.! it's horrible, so if you want to travel all the way from California to come out to ride a cool coaster like PR, then go ahead buddy and waiste your time, might as well come to Camdem Park to ride the BIg and Little Dippers! hahahahahah

X wont' be finished til 2003 so why worry about it now!

Hahaha, its gonna take them 1 1/2 more years to finish an already half-built coaster....right........You have got to calm down dude. We know MF is a great coaster and yada yada, but people have their own opinions. And surely dont talk **** about another coaster because it is smaller or it isnt in your homepark. Keep the stupid comments to yourself and stick to your opinion on MF!

Natelox
07-23-2001, 05:38 PM
u speak tha truth. Get over it.

DragonSamurai
07-23-2001, 05:55 PM
The same will hapen when X opens in september (i guess that will be it cause of the extended hours of operation now anounced)

sfmm2004
07-23-2001, 07:11 PM
this was probably the most interesting topic i've ever read. to watch people yell at others for dumb reasons and watch the battle rage was well...well i have a few comments myself, but i'm not going to bash other people's ideas and opinions, that's pointless and immature. opinions are what people think, it doesn't mean what they say is a hard and fast rule that everyone must obey or else...no. that's not the idea here.

s:te/tot
first i'd like to explain something...superman: the escape (s:te) at sfmm is 415 feet tall and tower of terror (tot) at dreamworld, australia is 377 feet and 4 inches tall (we'll just say it's 378 feet tall, though). this difference is due to the geography of the park. both rides have a 328 foot and one inch drop (328 feet). both rides go 100 mph. so while technically (due to the definition of the height of a rollercoaster-the distance from the highest part of the ride to the ground directly below it) s:te is taller by 28 feet, the drop is exactly the same. so at the top of s:te ur higher off the ground than tot, but the drop will be the same. yes, i've thought of that too, why doesn't sfmm run one side of s:te backwards...well a new car (i'm almost positive) would need to be designed, or the current one would need to be remodeled. next, during the launch, many people might get whiplash from being thrown forward. they would need otsr's. but it is an excellent idea, looking down that 415 foot tower would be amazing. this brings me to my next statement...how far up the cars travel. this entirely depends on the weight of the car, or a possible overlaunch, which rarely occurs. both rides have gone from 97 to 102 mph. sometimes usually u won't hit the brakes up there, but sometimes it happens (and they are very strong btw). so the drop is longer than sd2k's on both rides, and no ride ever broke it (goliath, mf, or sd2k). now for continous circuit, that's fine to say sd2k is the tallest and fastest, but imo s:te and tot are both rollercoasters and here's my proof...
according to dictionary.com...
roller coaster
n.
A steep, sharply curving elevated railway with small open passenger cars that is operated at high speeds as a ride, especially in an amusement park.
An action, event, or experience marked by abrupt, extreme changes in circumstance, quality, or behavior: “the demographic roller coaster caused by the baby boom” (American Demographics).
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roller coaster \Roller coaster\ An amusement railroad in which cars coast by gravity over a long winding track, with steep pitches and ascents.
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roller coaster n : a railway in an amusement park (usually with sharp curves and steep inclines) [syn: big dipper, chute-the-chute]
Source: WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton University
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now...s:te and tot fit those definitions perfectly, nothing says it must be complete circuit. i don't see anybody arguing about deja vu, v2, s:ue, boomerangs, catapault/flywheel lauched coasters, so i think people just don't want to admit s:te and tot are coasters simply b/c they are taller and faster than mf and sd2k. now i'm not saying this is always the case, but i see it quite often. so to me...s:te is the tallest rollercoaster in the world, s:te and tot are tied for the fastest rollercoaster in the world (till dodonpa opens) and sd2k is the tallest and fastest complete circuit rollercoaster. there are different types of rollercoasters, and we can't only give records so one type. that's my opinion anyway.

now to the question...i have ridden mf, firstly. secondly, i now u have to experience it mf to judge it, as is true with all rides. so, u tell people to ride mf first, which is true. but has anybody here ridden sd2k? cuz if not, i think we should all back up and just enjoy the rides. now i could just go down the line and yell at each and every one of u, but that's pointless, immature, and doesn't accomplish anything whatsoever. i some posts in this topic were unneccessary, but i can't do anything about what other people think. i just know that different people like different things and have different opinions-which is only what they are...opinions. i think most people don't understand that and just defend their home park wherever possible because they haven't been to other parks. my closest park is either dl/dca, or kbf, i'm equidistant, but i don't go around saying "kbf rulz, no matta what peple sez! alwayz has, alwayz gonna!" that's just plain dumb. no offense to anybody. i've been to sfmw, sfmm, pki, sfgam, cp, ioa, dl, dca, kbf, ss, sfa, bgw, ll, hh, rw, wr, vf, wdw, uso, ush, swc, and swo. now most of those are socal parks, but i don't think that socal parks are the only parks worth visiting. that's fine if somebody likes disney rides over sf or cf ones...again, it's their opinion. some people like the theming of busch, universal, and disney, while others like the more raw thrills of cf, sf, and paramount. either way, we should all stop this nonsense of screaming at each other and start sreaming on rides...that's what they're there for. now i know some people don't care what i say or feel, but most mature, logical people agree we should stop arguing over which parks, rides, companies or whatever are better or worse and start riding and enjoying all of them. in just about everything in life, people will always be striving for perfection, and in most cases (espcially the amusement park industry) will never achieve it. now some might come close, but absolute perfection would mean that every person in the world likes that item more than every other similar one, and would choose it for whatever purpose first. now in amusement parks, people will never agree on the best park, but i just like to watch the companies try to please everyone so i can be thrilled, i hope somebody agrees with me.

the ideas, comments, and opinions in this post are not meant to be taken personally. however, the stats and facts obviously are just that and i don't see how anybody can argue them. basically what i'm trying to same boils down to one sentence, which is what i'm trying to show...


NO RIDE, PARK, OR COMPANY WAS, IS, OR EVER WILL BE PERFECT!

thank you for your time.

sfmm2004
07-23-2001, 07:38 PM
not defending anybody here...but in general, i don't think anybody should use profanity, especially here. the point of these forums is not to come and shout at each other and show how much bad language you know, but to share and compare ideas and thoughts pertaining to rollercoasters. now if u want to go and cuss me out for saying this, go ahead, it just proves how immature you are, to me anyway. i hope i'm not the only one who feels this way.

Darth_Chyld
07-23-2001, 08:58 PM
I totally agree with Cameron Parker "Who are you to judge something you haven't experienced?"
You say that there is too much attention on it? Just ride it and stop your whining. Yes, there are other roller coasters that dont get much attention, but soon something will top the MF and it will be slowly forgotten just like the others.

CoasterCrazy
07-23-2001, 09:14 PM
Why sould we all get over such a great ride? It's my favorite roller coaster of all time. Just becuase there are new thrills out there doesnt mean we need to forget the "older" ones.

sfmm2004
07-24-2001, 01:08 AM
Originally posted by Darth_Chyld
I totally agree with Cameron Parker "Who are you to judge something you haven't experienced?"
You say that there is too much attention on it? Just ride it and stop your whining. Yes, there are other roller coasters that dont get much attention, but soon something will top the MF and it will be slowly forgotten just like the others.

sd2k, s:te, and tot have all topped mf. have u experienced all of these?

sfmm2004
07-24-2001, 06:48 PM
it's not fair to say ride mf first and then judge it, when most of u haven't ridden sd2k but are judging it!

punkrawker
07-24-2001, 09:18 PM
mf rocks!