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Rctman
05-06-2001, 06:15 PM
I think Elitch Gardens. Its just to small to be a Six Flags park.

birderboy
05-06-2001, 06:29 PM
agreed. Elitch Gardens sucks

crashfo0
05-06-2001, 08:27 PM
Hmm... Never been there, but I would have to say Six Flags New England is the worst I've been to. Number 1, it is way too crowded, and Number 2, they have no flow of the crowd. They have many, and I mean MANY, dead-ends in the park walkways. This causes a lot of confusion too. I think it may have just been b/c there first year, they didn't finish the walkways or something. Hopefully it got better this year.

STL_TIMMY
05-07-2001, 02:59 AM
Six Flags Elitch Gardens is the worst. It is small, no rides, and no theming whatsoever.

OrlandoCoaster
05-07-2001, 09:46 AM
Although I have not been there since they changed it, I would have to say Six Flags New England. BY FAR, the rudest, SLOWEST, and most ill-trained employees ANYWHERE. After spending a terrible day there in 1998, I wrote the president of the park, and of course received NO reply.
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<BR>Maybe the park has improved, but I highly doubt it. You can't just throw in some rides, change the name to Six Flags, and expect people to forget how awful Riverside Park was run, managed, and maintained. When I went, they had SINGLE traain operations on ALL coasters. And this was the middle of August: peak season.
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<BR>Gimme Cedar Point ANY DAY!!

rockman89
05-07-2001, 09:51 AM
OK, I now live near Eliches and Eliches only! (moving from the bay area is hard enough) It is flat out boring! I go with friends it's boring. I go with girls it's boring! I even go with friends and girls and it is still boring!!!

Yz10
05-07-2001, 10:41 AM
SFEG is worse then sucks

Yz10
05-07-2001, 10:45 AM
This park was already in bad shape before Six Flags took it over. They have tried to improve it some. But you can not make diamond ring with a piece tin foil and gravel

wwf4jericho
05-07-2001, 11:16 AM
Personally I think Six Flags America is bad. Its very dirty. The seats on the Tower of Doom were green and they are turning black. On the Mind Eraser you can see where they just used touch up paint. And that water park omg that thing during the summer is so bad. The only good clean area in this park is Gotham and thats b/c is new.
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<BR>Kevin

Rctman
05-07-2001, 07:06 PM
Alright now tell me the greatest six flags park mine is SFMM or SF Great america

Joe McNally
05-07-2001, 07:09 PM
This one belongs over in parks...
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<BR>*pulls the magic forum lever*

LocoSpitz
05-07-2001, 07:51 PM
Well, based on rides, I'll say Elitch Gardens, although I've never been there. It's pathetic. I'd rather go to Camp Snoopy in the Mall of America. The only reason I'm going there is because I'll be in the area anyway.

coasterop
05-07-2001, 11:03 PM
Hmmm, all this talk about Six Flags New England... you all might find this interesting. At Six Flags Great Adventure we recently went through pressure to go over for a two day trip to New England to WORK the park for some sort of big function. I hadn't really thought much of that until I read that their staffing is that bad.

coasterlove
05-08-2001, 04:28 AM
I'll remember never to go to Elitch Gardens, sounds like a real piece of crap.

CPFanatic
05-08-2001, 08:51 AM
All of the SIX Flags Parks stink!!! I was just at the all new Six Flags worlds of adventure for the opening weekend. The staff was HORRIBLE, rude, unclean, the restrooms where the worst I have ever seen in a park. The food is overpriced, (and not that good), the throughput on rides is sad and sorry, the only place that takes longer to cycle a train through the station is Busch Gardens Tampa. On some of the coasters it was taking 5+ minutes between trains, and only one train was running. I will never step foot in a six flags park again. These people could learn alot from Universal and Cedar Point!

dshimel
05-08-2001, 10:00 AM
I also live in Colorado, and yes, Elitch Gardens sucks.
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<BR>Last month I did a whirlwind tour of Texas, hitting all three Six Flags parks and Seaworld. Astroworld sucked, but was still a bit better than Elitch Gardens.
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<BR>Hay, they moved the park once. Why couldn't they do it again? Buy a couple hundred acres out by DIA. Redo Twister again, but this time give it some airtime. Take over the Boomerang and SLC, but link them so taht the boomerang turn was in the middle of Mind Eraser's half-loop, twist, half-loop. Then synch the launches so both coasters would be in that area at the same time.
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<BR>While I'm dreaming, they could add a hyper, an indoor LIM corkscrew similar to Rockin' Rollercoaster, a shoot and drop tower in place of the drop tower, some theming, a cool themed up log flume, .......
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<BR>Oh, Elitch Gardens needs Soooooo much.

Fisherman
05-08-2001, 10:15 AM
I can't believe no one's mentioned Astroworld! I fear for my life there now. It is always full of gang kids, it is filthy, and it has mostly used rides, etc.

Yz10
05-08-2001, 12:50 PM
The old Elitchs was far better then the current one. This was before six flags bought it so I am not sure why Six Flags ever bought it.

coastergenius100
05-08-2001, 01:05 PM
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<BR>No, I think that the correct phrase would be that Six Flags does not need Elitch Gardens, they should either scrap it or sell it too some foolish buyer like Cedar Fair or just a foolish person who wants to go into business.

SLFAKE
05-08-2001, 01:18 PM
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<BR>All of the SIX Flags Parks stink!!! ...the throughput on rides is sad and sorry, the only place that takes longer to cycle a train through the station is Busch Gardens Tampa. On some of the coasters it was taking 5+ minutes between trains, and only one train was running.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE><!-- BBCode Quote End -->
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<BR>Not to bash Six Flags (never been to any of their parks... was at Great Adventure before the start of the Six Flags regime), but to stand up for BGT. Either I hit BGT on a very good day, but their through put on the coasters was very good. The day before at IOA is where the through put was bad. I NEVER waited so long to load as on Dueling Dragons. For a while they were running 2 trains on each track (and it was still slow), then they decided to cut back to just one each. At one point it took them 25 minutes to run 6 train loads through.
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<BR>... We now return you to your regularly scheduled Six Flags bashing.

CPFanatic
05-09-2001, 12:00 PM
It could be that I have only been to BGT on bad days, but I have had a similar experience both times. Ironically, BGW is one of the cleanest, nicest, best themed parks I have ever seen. There, we never waited for anything beyond what I would call normal wait times for popular rides. BGT has the advantage of being in a tourist town, so I bet they worry alot less about the consistancy of their preformance, as most of the parks guests are not residents of Tampa, or florida for that matter.

DBCooper
05-09-2001, 12:21 PM
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<BR>It could be that I have only been to BGT on bad days, but I have had a similar experience both times. Ironically, BGW is one of the cleanest, nicest, best themed parks I have ever seen. There, we never waited for anything beyond what I would call normal wait times for popular rides. BGT has the advantage of being in a tourist town, so I bet they worry alot less about the consistancy of their preformance, as most of the parks guests are not residents of Tampa, or florida for that matter.
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<BR>Actually, due to the Florida Fun Card, nearly 50 percent of BGT guests are Florida residents, and quite a few of those are Tampa residents.

AlbertFuchsmen
05-09-2001, 01:06 PM
AM I THE ONLY PERSON THAT SEES THIS SIX FLAGS BASHING AS IGNORANT. YOU FOLKS IN DENVER NEED TO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE A PARK AT ALL. YOU FOLKS WHO BASH SFA NEED TO CAN IT, TOO. LOOK AT HOW FAR THAT THE PARK HAS COME IN JUST A FEW YEARS. I STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT SFNE PEOPLE ARE ******** ABOUT. YOU ONE OF THE BEST STEELIES AND A GREAT WOODIE TO MATCH. DO US ALL A FAVOR AND SHUT UP!<BR><BR><font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Erik Johnson on 2001-05-11 09:28 ]</font>

DBCooper
05-09-2001, 01:54 PM
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<BR>Hmmm... I'd say yes.

gardener14
05-09-2001, 01:57 PM
Why all this bashing of Six Flags New England? The park has been completely re-invented since the not-so-distant days of Riverside Park. It is now a clean, well staffed, nicely themed park with a generous selection of thrill rides, family rides, and children's rides.
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<BR>SFNE has the problems of all Six Flags parks such as overpriced food, overpriced parking, and frequent ride closures, however, how can we New Englanders complain when we have what I think is one of the nicest Six Flags parks there is. With incredible rides like Superman: the Ride and Scream, fun rides such as Houdini and Blizzard River, and great family rides like the Collosus (giant ferris wheel), and the beautiful Illions antique carousel. SFNE also offers more elaborately themed and landscaped surroundings than almost any other Six Flags park.
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<BR>SFNE may not be the biggest, but it packs quite a punch into a moderately sized area for a region that has been devoid of big theme park thrills until now.
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<BR>I think that previous contributions to this thread are based on past visits to the old Riverside Park and do not accurately reflect the transformation that has been made in creating SFNE.

davidbaum
05-09-2001, 03:48 PM
Guys, Please don't forget the WORST six flags park of all, Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom... Make no mistake, this is the worst one ever

dshimel
05-10-2001, 12:13 PM
Kentucky Kingdom?
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<BR>Take out the giant stand up and the dueling wooden coasters, replace them with a Vekoma Boomerang and a 25 year old elevated platform shuttle loop(so you don't even get the cool powered launch), and you've just about lowered the park to Elitch Gardens.

Medusa1861
05-10-2001, 03:55 PM
Elich Garden's If any Six Flags Employee sees this topic that means try to get it better don't waist it on MM giving them 3 new coasters.or WOA that park is doing great.
<BR>The newast ride at elich gardens was Boomerang and there already are like 47 of those. Get themsomething big but doesn't take up to much space like a MR. Freeze, Vertivle Velocity,Batman the ride, Batman & Robin the chiller, Poltergiest,Or a hyper that goes around the park.

Tyler Eaves
05-10-2001, 03:59 PM
SFGRAdv

swar
05-10-2001, 07:32 PM
SFMM has awesome rides but when I went in the beginning of April,it would easily have won the top award for the "filthiest park in the U.S.".

zeusagis
05-11-2001, 08:47 AM
I realize this is a coaster site but, does anyone here consider it takes more than coasters to make a park?
<BR>SFGADV is at times dirty and crowded to the one time visitor at this time it could be looked at as the pits.
<BR>SFGAM long lines all the time
<BR>SFNE needs some upgrades
<BR>what about SF Great Escape the chain wants to expand the park but the people in the area don't want the added attractions.
<BR>I guess what I am trying to say is all parks have "bad hair days" but we always try to make the best of the trip no matter what.
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Erik Johnson
05-11-2001, 09:26 AM
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denverdude
05-11-2001, 03:46 PM
Everyone is quick to critisize Elitch Gardens, however, I would love to see some more constructive ideas that may help improve the park. With the small space they have consider what more they could do; and also consider the fact that they cater to a far smaller audience than any other Six Flags Park. In essence, what would you want to see help make this smaller six flags park better? From replacing rides, to adding shows and concerts, or even by simply theming the park. Every park has to start somewhere, and Elitch Gardens is still very young relative to its East and West coast counterparts, perhaps our input could put some fire in the eyes of the suits... You never know

commontator
05-19-2001, 06:54 PM
My top 5 worst Six Flags Parks
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<BR>5.SFoG
<BR>4.SFWoA
<BR>3.SFNE
<BR>2.SFAW
<BR>1.SFEG

ChrisFL
05-19-2001, 09:29 PM
Six Flags Theme Park.
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<BR>That's an Oxymoron

Swimming King
05-19-2001, 10:53 PM
Obviously Six Flags Elitch Gardens is the worst.
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<BR> As far as constructive critisism goes, they need to tear out the sidewinder, and replace it with an Intamin Impulse Coaster. Then they need to tear out the pathetic water park, and the total tower. In place of the total tower, put 3 or 4 S&S towers like Supreame Scream. Where the water park was, there should be enough room for a flying dutchman, and a Premier LIM/LSM shuttle. They should tear out the west side of the parking lot, and bult a garage in the lot right in front of the entrance. In the extra room gained there, they could build a B&M hyper. Then they need to re-track the Twister.

goonsta
05-20-2001, 05:10 PM
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<BR>Definately not true. I visited 23 times last year and there were long lines only four times I visited. And those four times were due to extremely huge turnouts. I don't hold parks responsible for high turnouts. If I did that, Cedar Point would be the worst park I've ever visited. SFGam does the best job of handling capacity crowds out of every Six Flags park I've visited. The Raging Bull crew is a testament to that. What SFGam can work on is the attitudes on some of it's employees, the training of employees on how to deal with unruly crowds and the ritual of running only one side of American Eagle.

Alex Curavo
05-21-2001, 06:46 PM
Elitch Gardens

Yankee Cannonball
05-21-2001, 07:19 PM
Elitch Gardens is easily the worst, but does anyone know why Elitch Gardens gets the special Six Flags prefix but Great Escape doesn't? I haven't been to either park, but from what I can tell Great Escape is much better.
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<BR>I like your ideas, Swimming King. Too bad SF isn't willing to actually put any money towards helping the worst parks in their chain become better. I think that's what makes SF just a bit worse than all other chains. There are no really terrible Disney parks, or Busch parks, or Universal parks, but SF has some pretty bad ones. Why is it that SFMM gets two new major coasters this year when parks like SFEG and SFKK are struggling with only one or two major rides?

6FlagsWoAFreak
05-21-2001, 09:02 PM
Elitch Gardens

Bossstl
05-21-2001, 09:11 PM
SFKK

Coasterstan
05-21-2001, 11:11 PM
SFKK ALSO

murchison1
05-29-2001, 05:09 PM
SFEG and SFAW are horrible. SFEG never gets any rides, and the rides that SFAW gets are used. SFAW is pretty crappy. The removed their ONLY family coaster to put in a VEKOMA INVERTED! I mean come on!

arkansas twister
06-15-2001, 12:16 PM
all, they are just parking lots with roller coasters.

CA Coaster Fan
06-15-2001, 12:44 PM
SFEG is pretty bad. Its the only SF park with less than 5 coasters. It hasn't gotten anything new. The coasters it has sucks. SFAW is pretty bad too. That park has no theming and most of the coasters are failures from other parks. It seems like AW gets the trash.

goonsta
06-15-2001, 06:08 PM
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<BR>all, they are just parking lots with roller coasters.
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RiddRevenger
06-15-2001, 06:16 PM
I feel like SFMW isn't bad in the sense of rides and such, just bad because it is like a 'best of' park. It has all cloned coasters. Boomerang, Medusa, Roar, V2, Kong....I feel like the park isn't anything special. But i must agree that SFAW and SFEG are in much more terrible shape.

RiddRevenger
06-15-2001, 06:24 PM
Also i forgot something...Six Flags doesn't put money into parks where there isn't direct competition. Think about it? know any other parks in the Colorado area that compete with SFEG for people? with SFAW, SFOT and SFFT are close by kind of. Call what Six Flags does good or bad, but it still happens.

Kid Koala
06-15-2001, 06:46 PM
It sounds like SFEG to me.

NITROman
06-15-2001, 09:50 PM
SFAW is a piece of crap.Thats the new and I'm sticking to it!

DBCooper
06-15-2001, 11:55 PM
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<BR>all, they are just parking lots with roller coasters.
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<BR>I have to disagree. Check out Dollywood, IOA, BGT, USF, and SWO.
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arkansas twister
06-22-2001, 08:41 AM
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<BR>all, they are just parking lots with roller coasters.
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<BR>I have to disagree. Check out Dollywood, IOA, BGT, USF, and SWO.
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<BR>Thanks,
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<BR>I think an amusement park should have a certain ambience. It should thrill you but relax you in another way. Riding a rollercoaster next to a polluted freeway is not my idea of this. My hometown park - Magic Springs - is in the middle of forested mountains. When you ride the Arkansas Twister you go away from the park into the forest. I don't think you could theme a parking lot better than this. Just my personal opinion, please do not take offense.<BR><BR><font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: arkansas twister on 2001-06-22 08:47 ]</font>

dshimel
06-22-2001, 10:25 AM
SFEG does get new rides... Just not every year, and nothing great.
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<BR>It opened on it's current site in '95 with a handful of flat rides from the old park, and a handful of new flat rides. It had 2 coasters; the 1970s shuttle loop and a shrunk down remake of the 1960s wooden twister.
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<BR>In '97 it go an SLC and in '99 a boomerang.
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<BR>Here's fingers crossed that they'll get a new coaster next year. Probably a Super Invertigo (Deja Vu), but I'm hoping for a LIM launched verticle shuttle (ala SFOT's Mr. Freeze) in the place Sidewinder is now.
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Thundere
06-22-2001, 12:29 PM
Six Flags over Georgia has to be one of the worst Six Flags. At night there are no lights on the pathways and all the security people go home! Loads of gangs take the bus from altanta to six flags and when we were there, there was at least ten fights going on between them. 4 of the roller coasters broke down And we were wondering if they even had any repairmen.There was trash piled up in some of the ride lines and next to all of the trash cans! <BR><BR><font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Thundere on 2001-06-22 12:51 ]</font>

Antuan
06-22-2001, 01:15 PM
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<BR>On 2001-05-09 13:06, AlbertFuchsmen wrote:
<BR>AM I THE ONLY PERSON THAT SEES THIS SIX FLAGS BASHING AS IGNORANT. YOU FOLKS IN DENVER NEED TO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE A PARK AT ALL. YOU FOLKS WHO BASH SFA NEED TO CAN IT, TOO. LOOK AT HOW FAR THAT THE PARK HAS COME IN JUST A FEW YEARS. I STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT SFNE PEOPLE ARE ******** ABOUT. YOU ONE OF THE BEST STEELIES AND A GREAT WOODIE TO MATCH. DO US ALL A FAVOR AND SHUT UP!
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<BR>LOL, real funny name

goonsta
06-22-2001, 03:38 PM
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<BR>I think an amusement park should have a certain ambience. It should thrill you but relax you in another way. Riding a rollercoaster next to a polluted freeway is not my idea of this. My hometown park - Magic Springs - is in the middle of forested mountains. When you ride the Arkansas Twister you go away from the park into the forest. I don't think you could theme a parking lot better than this. Just my personal opinion, please do not take offense.
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<BR>But you said <i>all</i> Six Flags parks are just parking lots with coasters. I can name plenty off the top of my head that are just as beautiful as the parks you mentioned. SixFlags doesn't go out of there way to cut down trees in most parks. Some parks like SFMM and SFFT don't have as much vegetation to begin with. SFWoA(Especially the Sea World side), SFoG and SFTSTL are some of the most beautiful parks I've ever come across. SFGradv is almost totally surrounded by trees also.

Bossstl
06-22-2001, 09:02 PM
YEah no mention of SFSTL

arlok2
06-22-2001, 09:46 PM
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<BR>ok tyler. you are now retarted. no offence but great adventure is like the second best six flags park.

AndyKcool16
06-23-2001, 08:24 AM
I think that Sixflag Kentucky Kingdom is the WORST park ever in the history of parks. There is no themeing the coasters suck(except Thunder run). The park is dirty and always smells like trash, the ops fight a lot and always try to get the rides stuck. Sixflags dosent care about this park and wants to get rid of it.The ops never fill the rollercoasters and ride to capacity, and the prices are sky high

Montu0127
06-23-2001, 01:51 PM
Ok, SFEG must be the worst, but i think SFAW and SFKK are pretty sorry also.

The Coaster God
06-23-2001, 02:32 PM
Now I don't think that any of the Six Flags parks are bad but they need to get some new rides. I mean these five parks have this same ride and these six parks have these three same rides. Now Batman, the B&M coaster, isn't the greatest and I know there are three of them. I really think the seperate parks should have there own rides.

Matt M
06-23-2001, 02:34 PM
<BR>Please don't start a MM VS. CP war, i think EG is worst, i've never been their, but i think its the worst thrill park, worst park i've been to was kiddieland. The fair here in Northbrook is better than Kiddieland
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STL_TIMMY
06-23-2001, 02:56 PM
When Elitch Gardens moved, they moved closer to the city, they needed to move farther away then they would have more room and the land would've been cheaper. but they would have to go away from DIA. they would have a hieght restriction.

Natelox
06-23-2001, 06:02 PM
Elitch Gardens

Inferno
06-24-2001, 08:33 PM
I've only been to two SF parks, WOA and KK, and KK is surely the worst of the two, but from what I've read, EG is a lot worse, at least ride wise.

ejm88
06-24-2001, 08:48 PM
The only Six Flags I've visited is SFA. The lines were HORRIBLE, the cleanliness was TERRIBLE, and the workers seemed annoying, and most would go out of their way to piss you off. The rides are some of the best I've ridden, but the rest of the park cleanliness and workers made it the worst overall park I've been to. I'm not saying that all Six Flags are bad, but the day I went to SFA, it totally sucked. Elitch Gardens sounds like the worser of the parks though, so my vote will go to it.
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sfgamfreak
06-24-2001, 08:57 PM
I think sfeg is the worst

RB Troy
06-24-2001, 09:02 PM
my brother went to SFOG and he said it sucked really bad. He said it was so dirty and the only good ride was Mindbender.

coastergenius100
06-24-2001, 09:34 PM
SFEG, if you can call it an amusment park, is hands down the worst SF park, and they can't even repair it, because it is so small.

beltzies64
07-01-2001, 07:30 AM
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<BR>That is soooo untrue. It is actually one of the clean SF parks, and Acrophobia is a great ride too!

Chris The Coaster Freak
07-01-2001, 08:45 AM
When was the last time you went to SFoG. They have made a HUGE turnaround with the new management. Cool new rides, awesome plans for the future, beauty returned to the park, more security, better employees. They have started to use common sense there now. Before you get all over SFoG go back and see the transformation.

yackmeoff
07-01-2001, 08:59 AM
any park after going to cedar point

DeKalb
07-01-2001, 12:18 PM
Astroworld does get all the used rides..and most of those need a new paint job! I used to live in Houston a year ago, I may be going there and to Astroworld soon, I'm going to check it out. By the way, they got another family (ok, kiddy) coaster, the Serpent. I went once to Fiesta Texas, before the expansion. It was kinda crappy.

Aaron
07-01-2001, 05:04 PM
Elitch Gardens and Astroworld. If somebody made them in RCT then it would win "The Worst Value Park In The Country" award.<BR><BR><font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: CedarFairMaster on 2001-07-01 17:05 ]</font>

Thrill Rider
07-01-2001, 05:17 PM
SFKK. The rides are good, but the people forgot to take their heads out of their butts when they designed the place.

Honan Beetch
07-01-2001, 08:25 PM
I'd have to say Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom since nothing's been goin' on there. It's been collectin' dust and spider webs.

KumbaNut
07-01-2001, 08:30 PM
Can I have Elitch Gardens? I have lets see... 120 bucks! that enough?

SFoT_Titan9876
07-01-2001, 11:19 PM
When I went to SFAW it was hot and humid and dirty. It was packed also. Their were a bunch of little kids running around in shirts with a bunch of profanity on it. It was like they took all of the bad things from other parks and combined them in one park. When we were waiting for Serial Thriller and someone came in with a Fastlane pass almost everyone would start cussing the person out including a kid who couldn't have been any older than 9 years old. People were walking around and just throwing their trash on the ground when their was a trash can right next to them. A fight broke out in the middle of Batmans line and someone went and told the ride-op and the rideop told the peron if they bothered them again they would kick the person out of the park. One person in the fight got sent to the hospital. This is by far the worst Six Flags park I have been to but still haven't been to SFEG.

GeorgiaSchorcherfreak
07-01-2001, 11:26 PM
Elitch Gardens for sure
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NitroExplodes
07-02-2001, 06:27 AM
Did anyone think about this?A lot of times the parks can't help which kind of people enter. Then those people who will cause trouble, write all over the walls, stick gum, etc. are the ones who ruin the parks. I know that SFGAdv. tries to keep the park clean, but there are more and more people that fit that description that are ruining it. Since it is a big park, it would take a long time to clean it up. I believe that they could clean it up just by doing a little power washing the concrete, a little paint, and camera's throughout the park. Well camera's may help keep all that littering down to a minimum. Then people who respect the park could enjoy it. (Like Me)

X-Marks-The-Spot
07-02-2001, 08:24 AM
That is strange sfmm is usually pretty clean.

S:ROSFNE
07-03-2001, 05:33 PM
elitch gardens

Jill Anne
07-03-2001, 07:29 PM
Hmmmm it seems to me after reading all of this that six flags needs to do a few simple things.
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<BR>,,,and would probalby mean most parks wouldn't get great new coasters and other rides for a year (and given how many are no doubt in the works don't look for a development like this to happen soon, or all in one year.) So instead of fixing the problem all at once, they are probably getting new rides to keep guests coming in and slowly getting more and more employees and better training programs to preserve cost....
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<BR>hopefully by the time this is all over they'll still have guests.....

Leo C
07-03-2001, 10:31 PM
Elitch Gardens. It's so small. It has no big lineup, besides Twister. An old Arrow shuttle loop and an SLC. They don't really catch my attention.
<BR>Astroworld was my second choice. XLR8 is too slow I hear and Batman the Escape looks so primitive with only one inversion.

theB&Mwoody
07-03-2001, 10:56 PM
Hey, y'all. Does anybody want to trade ANY SIX FLAGS theme park for Jazzland? Two coasters, one being a Vekoma BOOMERANG!!!!!! I HATE BOOMERANGS!!! Be grateful that you even have a park that is within an hour's drive that has at least 3 good coasters. Mine only has two coasters, a pair of S&S towers, which nobody really cares for, and a bunch of nausea-inducing spin-and-puke midway trash rides!!! I guess N.O. is just Southtown, U.S.A. when it comes to coasters.

CP guy
07-03-2001, 11:15 PM
well i've never been to six flags but i hear that sfkk is pretty bad. same for sfeg. they are not up to standard with other six flags parks. i plan to go to sfwoa sometime

kingtut
07-03-2001, 11:33 PM
Having only been to SFO and SFOG in the SF chain, I can truly say that out of every park I have been to, SFOG is by far the worst. Not wanting to participate in SF bashing, let me explain myself. SFO was a great experience I think because last year when I went the park was small (but expanding)B:KF and S:UE were new. The park was clean and the ride ops were experienced and friendly and the food service was quick and tasted good. With SFOG being one of my home parks, I hate to give it the thumbs down but the park is laid out poorly, the staff were at times rude and the restraunt service is horrible. (I paid $10 for a burger and fries, but had to wait an hour and a half just to place my order). Simply unacceptable. Maybe the Fast-Pass system will help to resolve the LONG (3 1/2 hrs to ride Batman:TR) queue problems, but SFOG suffers from a different problem as well. They seem to build what they want regardless of the parks actual needs. They have always been a budget, cost-cutting park and continue to be as such..

stevie
07-13-2001, 12:25 PM
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<BR>When I went to SFAW it was hot and humid and dirty. It was packed also. Their were a bunch of little kids running around in shirts with a bunch of profanity on it. It was like they took all of the bad things from other parks and combined them in one park. When we were waiting for Serial Thriller and someone came in with a Fastlane pass almost everyone would start cussing the person out including a kid who couldn't have been any older than 9 years old. People were walking around and just throwing their trash on the ground when their was a trash can right next to them. A fight broke out in the middle of Batmans line and someone went and told the ride-op and the rideop told the peron if they bothered them again they would kick the person out of the park. One person in the fight got sent to the hospital. This is by far the worst Six Flags park I have been to but still haven't been to SFEG.
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<BR>But aside from the rude employees, rude guests, litter, crowds, wild little children, and used rides that are always broken down, there is the --- wait --- there is noting else!

dshimel
07-13-2001, 01:45 PM
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<BR>There is Texas Cyclone. That was my favorite Texas woody. That ride alone was worth the cost I paid for admission with my season pass...... Wait.... There was no cost.... Never mind. That ride alone was worth the cost of parking.

TwisterII
07-15-2001, 06:26 PM
If the Six Flags Corporation would just spend a little more money on SFEG it would be a great park. Denver is booming. I live near denver and the suberbs keep getting closer to cheyenne, wyoming. So if they just spent a little more money and gave them a great coaster people would flock there. <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_evil.gif">

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07-15-2001, 11:54 PM
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<BR>Elitch Gardens and Astroworld. If somebody made them in RCT then it would win "The Worst Value Park In The Country" award.
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<BR>I have to agree with the bad value at Elitch's but when you think of it for the rides that aren't coasters it's pretty cool

Top Cat8
07-16-2001, 12:05 AM
Elitch's isn't really all that bad. I go and have a lot and I have fun most of the time. Most people look at a ride like the sidewinder. They think, Just because it's old it's not fun. But all the rides are <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif"><BR><BR><font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Top Cat8 on 2001-07-16 00:06 ]</font>

big_e
07-16-2001, 12:11 AM
I would have to say SFKK. As much as i love chang, i say this because they just need to had something new. And the whole layout of the park is terrible.

jay9882
07-16-2001, 12:34 AM
ok....as of right now of going to 2 six flags (gradv <---*my home park and work* and america)........six flags america is the worst. When i went, i waited about 2 hrs to get on superman, the joker jinxs, well all i can say is that ride is a joke....also is it me or did the coasters that had shoulder pad really stink? i would say the most i had fun down there was when i was on the bumper cars.

Stk4114
07-16-2001, 01:03 AM
SFEG definately

MedusaTheBoar
07-16-2001, 10:43 PM
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<BR>What's great about SFGadv? The horrible crowds? The lack of a decent woodie? The standard BtR? Sure, Nitro is fun, but what else there is worthwhile, especially at the average 1+ hour wait one gets in the summer? The boring, forceless, Medusa? The formerly decent, but now simply rough GASM? Or is it the oft-broken, painful Chiller? The last few times I've been there BtR has broken down for quite a few hours on the chain lift. Top notch park, indeed.

rollerduck
07-17-2001, 12:33 AM
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<BR>AM I THE ONLY PERSON THAT SEES THIS SIX FLAGS BASHING AS IGNORANT. YOU FOLKS IN DENVER NEED TO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE A PARK AT ALL. YOU FOLKS WHO BASH SFA NEED TO CAN IT, TOO. LOOK AT HOW FAR THAT THE PARK HAS COME IN JUST A FEW YEARS. I STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT SFNE PEOPLE ARE ******** ABOUT. YOU ONE OF THE BEST STEELIES AND A GREAT WOODIE TO MATCH. DO US ALL A FAVOR AND SHUT UP!
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<BR>Thank you - I cannot read anything unless it's shouted at me. Anyway, Six Flags America does very much need improvements. Their stores offer limited variety of anything - souveneirs, candy, knicknacks. At every water ride, I either saw bobbing plastic bottles and paper trash in the water, and/or I was kicking them about in the water ride boats. i was continually treated rudely by park employees. I have never, ever in my life seen so much line jumping. Their food offerings were limited and the food quality was pretty miserable, and entirely overpriced by 100%. The locker bank facilities couldn't cater to half of the people standing in line for Cedar Point's Raptor at any point of time throughout the day. Indeed, I wrote the park a letter of grievance. Hershey Park, other parks may not be on the cutting edge of coaster counts or coaster technologies, but I am never treated like an irritance when I go, and I can allow myself to gaze at the park scenery without cringing with disgust at the pathetic effort to maintenance of any aspect of the environment. Besides this all, Six Flags parks overall continue the bastion of rolelr coaster waste known as Boomerangs. If Cedar Point ever, ever jumped on this sinking bandwagon, I don't think I could ever overcome my disappointment. What is it with the clones too? Don't let me upset anyone here with the concepts of creativity or consideration. No, Six Flags can and will continue to simply offer their cheap excuses of fast food amusement park entertainment.

CorbinA
07-17-2001, 12:52 AM
SFOG

SfgadvaWs
07-17-2001, 12:56 AM
Elitch Gardens

gibsonman
07-19-2001, 06:20 PM
I am a season pass holder at Six Flags America and i have seen that park deteriorate since its existance ( back in the Wild World days). The employees along with most of the guests come from low income areas from surrounding Baltimore and Washington D.C. Im not saying that all low income families are ignorant, but this group I will make an exception. over the last couple of years I have had racial slurs yelled to me by employees; I have seen employees that either do not pay attention to what they are doing or just dont care (i.e. not checking restraints on ENTIRE ROLLERCOASTERS, and allowing guests to dispatch trains and play with the mic). Last night i was in line for batwing and an employee threatened to stab a guest because the guest wanted to ride up front, and the employee didnt want to deal with it.... That is unacceptable!!! The park is discustingly filthy, the pads do smell pretty bad on any ride that has overhead restraints, the bathrooms are dirty and the restraunts look like they shouldn't pass the health inspection. The only reason why I continue to goto this park is they do put in new rides frequently and when they do they are ususally pretty good.

edh101985
07-19-2001, 07:21 PM
SFKK and SFEG

VomitComet
07-19-2001, 09:42 PM
Goonsta has it all wrong! SFAm is the WORST park when it comes handing crowds or even, non crowds. I was there today and they have to reguard for the desires of their guests. First of all I rode batwing. AWESOME. BUT! i had to wait an hour. the wait doesnt bother me when they are actually runnign more than 1 train. SFAm constructed 2 loading stations for Batwing to handle crowds, yet only 1 side and 1 train out of 3 were functionion. I blame it totally on employee laziness. I saw 3 employees, enough to operate the other side just sitting there sleepin. THAT MAKE ME SOOOO MAD. Next i ran to superman. To my suprise (not really) it was closed alll day. WHY? i dunoo they're werent any employees to tell us. I say people working on 1 of the trains? Why not run the other 1, it is the 2nd best ride n thew park why not run it, even with 1 train. They didnt even make 3 trains for a 3 minutes ride. WHY? I also rode Renegade River. I waited an hour for a CRAP river rapid ride. They were removing a car so they shut down the ride for like 45 minutes, just after having a daily water break. GET THIS there is a permenant sign for a daily water break. WOULD BGW ever have that. The water break is prob so the employees can pick their noses for an hour. Since there was a loooong line, why just not seat people on the faulty car instead of pissing like 150 people off. We had a chant, "SIX FLAGS SUCKS." going for like 5 minutes. I rutinely find myslef going to the park and having half of the rides broken. WHY? CUASE THE STAFF SUCKS. i NEVER have that problem with any other park. SFAm is my home park yet i despise it. they nees competent employees, shade, intelligence and theme. They have a tycoon seacoaster. THAT ride could kick royal A but becuase sif flags is soo cheap it isnt themed at all. if i twere completely enclosed and like haunted house themeing it would rock. BUT NO! ALso i wanted to ride it but they were only running 6 boats on like a 9 minute ride. THAT SUCKS. i tried to ride two face but it broke TWICE.

Stino999
07-19-2001, 11:10 PM
SFEG by far cause SFKK has a good Standup

raver135
07-20-2001, 08:55 AM
SFoG has to be one of the Gems of the SixFlags name. Great rides, great staff and now Lo-Q. How can the park be called one of the worst?

Of the ones I've been to I think SFStL needs the most work, but it is far from horrible. (give it one-two more coasters and it would be schweet

Honan Beetch
07-20-2001, 12:47 PM
Six Flags Elitch Gardens is the worst Six Flags theme park because it's just collecting cobwebs and dust. It's not worthy enough to be a Six Flags theme park.

raver135
07-20-2001, 02:39 PM
OK, can someone explain (in detail) why SFEG should be called the worst park. I'd like a litte more than "It Sucks"

Coaster Clown
07-20-2001, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by wwf4jericho
Personally I think Six Flags America is bad. Its very dirty. The seats on the Tower of Doom were green and they are turning black. On the Mind Eraser you can see where they just used touch up paint. And that water park omg that thing during the summer is so bad. The only good clean area in this park is Gotham and thats b/c is new.
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This park is SOOOOOO GHETTO!
Yeah I understand that it's right outside of D.C.! but come on!
I mean first of all... the park is in fact dirty, they don't take care of their guest.... their employees are rude and racist...

all i have to say is.... their rides need repainted, maintanence, and their PRIZES are MASTER P DOLLS! that's the best thing EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Magnum will always rule!
07-20-2001, 04:45 PM
For coasters it Elitch Gardens.Flat rides goes to Magic Mountain, and everthing else goes to WoA.

BrooklynRider
11-09-2001, 08:53 AM
Of the one's I've been to:

SFDL
SFNE
SFGrAdv

I'd say SFGrAdv - without question. I remember when it was great - it sux now.

CoasterCrazy
11-09-2001, 12:18 PM
I've only been to SFKK and SFWOA, but both of them were horibble. I would have to say that SFKK is worse though.

big_e
11-09-2001, 01:10 PM
Well since i have only had the privelege to go to only 3 Six flags in my whole life, i would have to say SFKK, they really need a new coaster, maybe an intamin impulse?

goonsta
11-09-2001, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by VomitComet
Goonsta has it all wrong! SFAm is the WORST park when it comes handing crowds or even, non crowds.

You know, you might be right about SFA. But I said SFGam, not SFA. I've never been to SFA. Also, in my visit to SFGradv, I saw no evidence of the lazy employees and line jumping. Maybe it's because it was an extremely light crowd.

loriu
11-09-2001, 01:36 PM
The worst one I've been to so far is Astroworld. Horrible layout, we waited longer for food than some of the rides, just too many things to list. SFWoA is close though. It's dirty, overcrowded, capacity is awful, etc, but this park does have potential. If they get some good management and hire sufficient staff, this park could be one of the best.

Marcus
11-10-2001, 01:12 PM
All of them. J/K. I would have to say MM because of the parks late coasters. I know its not the parks fault, but MM took a risk in asking for a 4-d. But it will be built in time and im sure MM will be right behind CP once again as always.

Wackokid
11-10-2001, 03:07 PM
why do you hate MM so much?

viperrocks
11-10-2001, 06:17 PM
Well, I can safely say that it's not SFMM, aslthough I really don't have much to compare it to.

diacconi
11-11-2001, 09:12 PM
Six Flags theme parks I've attended in the past 3 years:

From my experiences -- Magic Mountain tops the list; and Elitch Gardens sucks algae.

Here's how I feel about the Six Flags parks I've attended:

Magic Mountain: Great coaster selection; Clean; Usually crowded; All rides up-and-running; Spacious

Over Texas: Great coasters; Clean; Good staff; Draws a better type of crowd; Park layout needs work

Worlds Of Adventure: Above-avg coasters; Geauga Lake side too cramped; Flat rides needed; Park layout needs work

Great Adventure: Above-avg coasters; Great fireworks; Bad Staffing; Rides not alway working; Out-of-control crowds

NJ Wild Animal Safari: Upclose animals; Monkey pit is awesome; Kids love it

America: Above-avg coasters; Good Halloween attractions; Poor layout; Out-of-control crowds

Astroworld: Average coasters; Nothing Special; Gets very hot and not enough shading

Fiesta Texas: Barely average coasters; Clean; Themed beautifully; Nice attractions; Not enough rides; Good staff

Kentucky Kingdom: Barely average coasters; Small park; Average flat rides

NJ Hurricane Harbor: Extra charge for tubes is unnecessary; Too small for crowds; Clean; Needs more attractions

Elitch Garden: Below average coasters; Small park; Poor parking facility; not enough rides

coasterbuzz
11-13-2001, 03:56 PM
From the looks of it, I would say that SF Astroworld sucks... it seems they only have hand-me-down coasters, and they're all really old. That's just my opinion. I would say that one of the best would be SFMM, but I also think that Fiesta Texas and SFOT look really good, too.

SLFAKE
11-14-2001, 12:45 PM
Since my first post in this thread last may, I did get to one Six Flags Park... Six Flags America.

I can't tell how it holds up to the rest of the Six Flags parks, but I certainly hope it is the worst of them, because if there are any that are in fact any worse than this one, I don't want to go there!

Of all of the parks that I have been too, SFA is the worst one I have ever encountered...

1) Rude, incompetent, lazy, and/or ignorant employees... from the ride ops who could care less what they are doing (and 30 minute wait times that should have been 5 minutes), to the woman working the metal detector at the front gate... a guest set off the detector but the security guard waved her through so the line would not be held up! In all fairness, my visit was before Sept 11... Perhaps at least their security guards are paying a bit more attention now.

2) Rude, obnoxious, ignorant guests. Never have I seen as much line jumping and smoking in lines in my entire life. Also, while I witnessed no actual fights, I saw a few instances where it looked like some could have broken out between guests.

3) FILTH!!!! I never saw such a dirty park in my life. The proverbial "Over flowing trash can" was seen a few times. The place we ate was scary... so much trash and food on the floor and filthy tables. The paths were disgustingly dirty. The queue to Two FAce was littered with trash that could not have come from the hour that it had been open... had to been left from at least the night before. Grafitti over lots of stuff too. A week later when we went to Hersheypark, we were sitting down eating and I looked around... in the little area that I could see I counted 6 trash cans, 2 recycle "bins", and 2 employee's sweeping. At SFA you are lucky if you can find 6 trash cans in the entire park (okay, that is an exageration)... however we saw no sweeps in our visit to SFA.

4) Disgusting and horrible, almost inedible, food. And WAY over priced.

5) Ride maintenance that was very lacking. They kept them running (for the most part), but that was about it. Most needed re-painted at the very least. And replace those OTSR's on Two FAce and Joker's Jinx... They were wet with and stank of sweat! Can't say about the OTSR's on Mind Eraser because it wasn't open for most of the day. S:RoS was not open at all that day. Great idea to have so many coasters... better idea to at least spend the money or have a qualified maintenace staff to keep them running. Many flat rides were also down that day.

I'm not even complaining about the rides. I thought BatWing was way over rated, of course it could have been the fact that I waited in line for over an hour for this one with a very unruly crowd so my opinion on the ride could have been tainted. I will mention that the one op on BatWing showed some initiative and common sense. 4 across seating lets a lot of single seats open and he was calling down to the crowd "Single rider!? Single Rider?!" and filling up every seat... even filling the "reserved" Express Pass seat when no one was waiting (on Roar and Wild One they were letting the Reserved Seats go empty when no one was waiting, even unlocking the restraints and kicking none express riders out of those seats if they boarded them when on one was waiting.) That "Single Rider?!" call saved me another 20 minutes waiting.

Over all it was a disgusting experience. Unfortunately, I will probably go back there again next season since I never did get to ride S:RoS.

medusa7787
11-14-2001, 02:38 PM
sfeg and astroworld ultra twister lookes like crap,and what rides does elitch gardens have?!?!?!

EastCoasterDude
11-14-2001, 04:46 PM
i think the worst as in overall for customer satisfaction ,as in friendly employess,clean park,and overall operations wouldn be sfwoa,but in my opinion everyone i have been to needs some serious management help,i mean they just don't know how to run an amusement park.sixflags should send every company official to cedarpoint or just about ant cedarfair park so they can learn from the pros.

intamin101
11-14-2001, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by CPFanatic
All of the SIX Flags Parks stink!!! I was just at the all new Six Flags worlds of adventure for the opening weekend. The staff was HORRIBLE, rude, unclean, the restrooms where the worst I have ever seen in a park. The food is overpriced, (and not that good), the throughput on rides is sad and sorry, the only place that takes longer to cycle a train through the station is Busch Gardens Tampa. On some of the coasters it was taking 5+ minutes between trains, and only one train was running. I will never step foot in a six flags park again. These people could learn alot from Universal and Cedar Point!
NO WAY!!! You went to a new park, with new staff, and it was unorganized, and slow? It is a brand new park for god's sake! Give it some time! Opening weekend is no time to judge a park, I heard that it was a really good park. Maybe you say all SF parks stink because CPFanatic is your name. Beleive it or not SF parks have done a lot for the industry.

Wackokid
11-14-2001, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by CPFanatic
All of the SIX Flags Parks stink!!! I was just at the all new Six Flags worlds of adventure for the opening weekend. The staff was HORRIBLE, rude, unclean, the restrooms where the worst I have ever seen in a park. The food is overpriced, (and not that good), the throughput on rides is sad and sorry, the only place that takes longer to cycle a train through the station is Busch Gardens Tampa. On some of the coasters it was taking 5+ minutes between trains, and only one train was running. I will never step foot in a six flags park again. These people could learn alot from Universal and Cedar Point!
have you been to all the six flags parks? no? then you cant say they all stink then

edh101985
11-14-2001, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by CorbinA
SFOG

I am cureous, why do you say sfog is the worst? They got a good addition in 2001 and they are getting an even better one in 2002. It is defenately not the worst.

Ones like sfeg, sfkk, and sfaw are the worst. They mabe get a coaster every couple years. Also, who ever said all SF parks stink, i'd like to know which ones you have been to. They are defenately clean, and are more fun then some of the other parks i have been to.

Shadow248
11-15-2001, 12:28 PM
I personally HATE SFGadv. I go there once a year just so i can ride their great rides...but i usually only get on about 4 (partially cause their operators don't care at all, and partially cause they rarely have more than half their rides open anyway. It's always way too crowded, dirty...and worst of all...they microwave their funnel cakes!!! That in itself is reason enough for me to dislike the park...IT'S NOT RIGHT TO SCREW UP FUNNEL CAKES!!!! I've been to a few other SF parks...they were somewhat better, but all could use some improvement.

RagingBull#1
11-15-2001, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by EastCoasterDude
i think the worst as in overall for customer satisfaction ,as in friendly employess,clean park,and overall operations wouldn be sfwoa,but in my opinion everyone i have been to needs some serious management help,i mean they just don't know how to run an amusement park.sixflags should send every company official to cedarpoint or just about ant cedarfair park so they can learn from the pros.

what has six flags done to you, you are just going by what you are hearing and im sure that if you were really in a situation, six flags would keep you more than satisfied. and now you are going to make up a story about how they were so rude to you, but if something like that really happened you would have put it up in the post above. Customer satisfaction? who added 20 coasters in 2001? who added 1 or 2? who needs to learn from the pros now?

EastCoasterDude
11-15-2001, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by RagingBull#1


what has six flags done to you, you are just going by what you are hearing and im sure that if you were really in a situation, six flags would keep you more than satisfied. and now you are going to make up a story about how they were so rude to you, but if something like that really happened you would have put it up in the post above. Customer satisfaction? who added 20 coasters in 2001? who added 1 or 2? who needs to learn from the pros now?

what i mean about learnig from the pros is how to run the place not how to buy multiple rides that are clones with no imagination,any idiot can do that if they will pay for the ride.
and by the way i have been to all the original sixflags parks and there all operated poor. what good is a ride if it's closed or there running one train so the wait is so long you can't even do all the rides in a full day,or even all the coasters for that matter.and if there pros why the heck are they in so much debt. i think most people agree with what i have to say.

Shadow248
11-15-2001, 07:24 PM
What pisses me off the most about Six Flags is the arrogant attitude of it's management...that's why i am vocalizing my dislike...cause they deserve it. Them seem to feel that whoever adds the most rides wins. Well that is not the case my friend. Hopefully with the lawsuits they are dealing with and their growing debt, maybe they will learn that the simple fact is that buying new rides only wastes money if you don't give any attention to the rest of the park. Cedar Fair has the most respected parks in the world, and the only parks in their chain that get a new ride every year are Cedar Point and Dorney Park. The reason that Cedar Fair is on top is because they realize that their parks are amusement parks and not a coincidental collection of rides. There are games to be run, foods to be made, midways to be cleaned, and employees to be PAID. Most of all, their funnel cakes are MADE FRESH!!! That's the key to success!! fresh funnel cakes!!!

RagingBull#1
11-15-2001, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by EastCoasterDude


what i mean about learnig from the pros is how to run the place not how to buy multiple rides that are clones with no imagination,any idiot can do that if they will pay for the ride.
and by the way i have been to all the original sixflags parks and there all operated poor. what good is a ride if it's closed or there running one train so the wait is so long you can't even do all the rides in a full day,or even all the coasters for that matter.and if there pros why the heck are they in so much debt. i think most people agree with what i have to say.

every time i have been to a six flags park, most everything is running. the only reason for things being broken down is that six flags actually puts in new prototype coasters. you dont see a cf park with an x flight x deja vu v2 ste first floorless ever first bandm first inverted. their parks have been the birthplace of a countless number of new inversions including the first inversion ever. all cf can do is put tall complete circut coasters in their parks. wether you like it or not when x opens soon six flags parks will have title to.
highest coaster
fastest coaster
most coasters at one park
most track at one park
most coasters built every year
most parks within 1 hour of 80% of americans
1st-4th in the category of park with most inversions. SFGADV SFMM SFGAM and SFWOA.
most coasters over 65 mph
i can go on and on and on
well this blows cedar fair out of the water. and six flags parks arnt the ones being ordered by law to step up their safety because of injuries are they?

cedar fair has flowers, six flags has kick ass rides.

but wait cf parks have such good lanscaping, and your point is? If i want to see flowers ill go to the botanical gardens, if i want to ride awsome, new, modern, good rides ill go to six flags.

Shadow248
11-15-2001, 09:58 PM
Yeah next year WHEN X opens...and im sure you know when that thing is going to open. It may never open...and it's unfortunate because it's an awesome coaster. It's at Six Flags because Cedar Fair is not stupid enough to invest in something like that. Notice how when Cedar Fair puts in a ride, it opens on schedule. That's because they invest in proven rides and they don't experiment with technology that isn't yet proven. That is something that the manufacturers made clear to Six Flags when they bought X and the Deja Vu triplets, and look at the situation they are facing now...they were already in massive debt, now their "Xtreme Park" is facing embarrassment because they were unable to deliver what they said they would. Plus the clones of Deja Vu that were placed in other SF parks are not working either! It's the manufacturer's fault right? You can say that all you want but Cedar Fair doesn't have problems with manufacturers because they make sure that their investment is going to be reliable. It all comes down to the fact that Six Flags doesn't seem to know how to run a park...yet they think they are God's gift to us.

SFMM will never have the record for most coasters because by the time X opens Cedar Point will have added at least one more coaster. So they will be tied. WOW. And as for the other records you listed:

HIGHEST COASTER: where is this? If you are talking about S:TE then you have to realize alot of people don't even consider that thing a coaster. Try the continuous circuit kind (read: real coaster) and you'll find that Cedar Point has that record with MF (there's also Steel Dragon, but that's in Japan and how many of us want to go to Japan to ride it when MF is better anyway?)

FASTEST COASTER: also i suppose that here you are talking about S:TE so i again refer you to the above paragraph.

MOST COASTERS AT ONE PARK: don't jump the gun here buddy, not yet, and probably NEVER.

MOST TRACK AT ONE PARK: where do you get this? SFs two largest parks are SFMM and SFGadv and niether of them come close to Cedar Point with tracking monsters such as MF, Magnum, Gemini (TWO complete circuits), and Mean Streak.

MOST COASTERS BUILT EVERY YEAR: yeah that one's true. Too bad most of them don't work, and the ones that do only last about 6 years.

MOST PARKS WITHIN ONE HOUR OF 80% OF AMERICANS:
Who cares?! what does it matter anyway, if most of those parks suck!

MOST COASTERS OVER 65MPH: ok let me pick a stupid random record and make a big deal out of it, geez. Plus i don't think it's true anyway.

How about being voted the number ONE amusement park every year for the last ten years?! Wouldn't matter to SF cause all they care about is numbers. What about best customer service? again wouldn't matter to SF. But these are all important parts of running a park.

And what good are all of Six Flag's AWESOME rides if they are either not running, not ready yet, or falling apart cause they weren't taken care of?

In the end Six Flags has nothing to brag about. They don't have many records, and they don't take care of their parks and rides. So i think they should just shut up and go about their business. Someday if they learn how to run a park completely, i'll be glad to listen to all their bragging.

RagingBull#1
11-17-2001, 12:25 AM
everything i said was true. If you don't consider S:TE a coaster then you shouldn't really be posting here.

Wackokid
11-17-2001, 12:33 AM
what do you mean cedar fair has flowers? they have pretty good rides at most of their parks

RagingBull#1
11-17-2001, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by Wackokid
what do you mean cedar fair has flowers? they have pretty good rides at most of their parks

i know they have good rides just not generally as good as six flags parks

Screamweaver
11-17-2001, 10:47 AM
Another pissing match.

CorkyTheGreat03
11-17-2001, 12:33 PM
For a while I thought WoA was just because they really didn't have their act together. But after the end of the summer they really changed. Even though they did close the park a couple hours early some times it didn't bother me because there was almost none there when they did close early. But now i have to say Elitch Gardens is by far the worst Six Flags park in the U.S. I have only been there once and it was crappy.

coastergenius100
11-17-2001, 01:00 PM
It is obviously SFEG.

Shadow248
11-19-2001, 06:13 PM
Can comeone please tell me when to go to Great Adventure so i can catch more than 60% of their rides open? I am totally serious that everytime i go LESS than HALF of their rides are open. I am not exagerrating when I say that. Yet someone in this thread said that everytime they go, most of the rides are open. Please tell me when this occurs?! Or do you consider 60% to be MOST of their rides?

Anaconda
11-21-2001, 06:49 PM
I think its a tie between:

Elitch Gardens
Darien Lake
America
Great America
Fiesta Texas
Astroworld
Worlds of Adventure
Magic Mountain
New England
Over Georgia
Over Texas
Marine World
Mexico
Holland
Belgium
Kentucky Kingdom
St. Louis
Great Adventure
All the waterparks

Just my humble opinion.

edh101985
11-21-2001, 07:40 PM
why do you hate all SF parks? Have you even been to one?

goonsta
11-22-2001, 12:25 AM
Originally posted by Anaconda
I think its a tie between:


Mexico
Holland
Belgium

Just my humble opinion.

Wow you've been to those three? I wanna know about them!

coastersrsweet
11-24-2001, 07:47 PM
Its either SFKK or SFEG but all I have seen is pics. So this thread is more of a matter of opinion.

What about the SF parks outside of the U.S. (evn though this is in the american parks section)

aastretch64
11-25-2001, 12:41 AM
I guess nobody likes Elitch Gardens!

BrooklynRider
11-27-2001, 01:17 PM
I hate SFGrAdv so much that I had to give it a second vote!

Brandon
11-30-2001, 04:21 PM
I think they all suck too, except WOA. anyways I don't like six flags becuase they are trying to take cedar point's records away. Six Flags has tons of money, and i think they should spend it on their prexisting parks like elitch gardens, i heard it really sucks. six flags should take safety lessons and costumer satisfaction lessons. Six flags may have rides but cedar fair is way better.


Snakes rule, especially michigan snakes.

Wackokid
11-30-2001, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by Brandon
anyways I don't like six flags becuase they are trying to take cedar point's records away
i guess they never should have built Millennium Force or Magnum because it takes records away

Six Flags has tons of money, and i think they should spend it on their prexisting parks like elitch gardens, i heard it really sucks.
some of the cedar fair parks dont look too good either...

Six flags may have rides but cedar fair is way better.
why, more flowers?

X-Cellent
11-30-2001, 06:21 PM
SFEG looks absolutely horrible! the only good coaster they have is an SLC! That is when you can tell a park is really bad

Brandon
12-01-2001, 07:32 PM
I still think Six Flags sucks, from what i hear, they're unclean and no very nice to the people they have there. Cedar Fair rules, sorry guys that is my home park. WOA is cool though from what i hear.

edh101985
12-01-2001, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by Brandon
I still think Six Flags sucks, from what i hear, they're unclean and no very nice to the people they have there. Cedar Fair rules, sorry guys that is my home park. WOA is cool though from what i hear.

Well, SF parks are clean though. It is a really nice experience going their. Have you even been to a SF park? You cant judge one if you havent even been to one.

Brandon
12-01-2001, 07:47 PM
I had I like WOA it is pretty cool, it will grow to be an awesome park, but i'm just saying that SF sucks because of them taking CP's World records away. I think building three coasters in one park which already had a substantial amount of rollercoaster was too much, and SF has tons of money to throw around but that is my opinion.

Brandon
12-03-2001, 04:00 PM
I would say they are all pretty bad. except WOA.

NC Coasterman
12-03-2001, 04:29 PM
Of the Six Flags properties I've been too,
unlike some who rate against parks they've
never seen,
Six Flags America has the most opportunities
for improvement!

Brandon
12-04-2001, 03:25 PM
EG, how many acres do they own.

Chris L
12-04-2001, 05:33 PM
Not a lot. Probably equivelant to a very large backyard. That's SFEG for ya.

alex@ucla
12-07-2001, 06:55 PM
brandon, not sure if your are over 18, but think about apreciating other parks, without CP would not see the need to install new rides. Also parks like SFMM which are pushing the envelope will only help parks like CP, as CP will only bye proven designes...
anyhow, you shopuld be lookling forward visiting other parks, believe me, i went to CP the first time this year and needles to say it's not perfect! Just spread the love a little...ok?!

1984 v. 2.5
12-08-2001, 11:36 AM
"When good parks go Bad!" Elitch Gardens to Six Flags Elitch Gardens.

mpbigdaug
06-16-2003, 04:20 PM
How can people say that Kentucky Kingdom is one of the worst six flags parks its not. The park is only 15 years old okay and for its age it has grown alot. Im from Louisville where Kentucky Kingdom is located. I have also been to other parks and I got to say that Kentucky Kingdom is as good or better of some othere parks. I think within the past couple years it has really improved. Of coarse there is some problems but its a young park and changes will come. The park has a good 7-8 roller coasters. Ranging from baby, wooden, and steel coasters. I t has rides for everyone. It has allot of thrill rides a couple water rides and many kiddie rides. So how can you talk aboat a park that is only 15 years old but already so big for a young park. I would never ever put it as one the worse but one of the top ten six flags parks. DEFINETLY NOT THE WORST WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE THINKING.....DUH.....:mad: :mad:

ride6
06-16-2003, 04:29 PM
^ he's right. SFKK is pretty well-off for it's age. Just look at Michigans Adventure if you don't believe me.

Eltich Gardens is the worst... easy

Carowinds 73-03
06-16-2003, 05:35 PM
Out of all the sif flasg i've been to i would have to say SFA is the worst and the best looking one would have to be SFMM.

ride6
06-16-2003, 06:02 PM
SFA????!!!! Are you insane???? I know almost all the rides are clones but S-ros is a great ride and batwing is okay. Both their woodie are good. But the place has out-grown itself in the last few years.

RCT loser
06-16-2003, 07:52 PM
I'm only counting SF parks I've been to(Frontier City, SFNO, SFOT, SFFT, SFAW).

Of all the SF properties I've been to, the worst was FC, but that one doesn't have the SF attached. And I can't blame SF for that decision, I'd be embarrased about FC also. Their only good ride is their schwarzkopf looping star (Silver Bullet if I remember right), and they have the worst ride ops and loading policy in the world. Anyone who's been there knows what I mean.

Of the ones that have the SF name, this might be rather surprising to you, but it's SFFT. They have only one coaster worth riding, and it's even only a family coaster. Rattler is overly trimmed, Polty has a boring 'middle' part, and S:KC is forceless.

My fav is SFOT, but that should be obvious...

Kraken
06-16-2003, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by mpbigdaug
How can people say that Kentucky Kingdom is one of the worst six flags parks its not. The park is only 15 years old okay and for its age it has grown alot. Im from Louisville where Kentucky Kingdom is located. I have also been to other parks and I got to say that Kentucky Kingdom is as good or better of some othere parks. I think within the past couple years it has really improved. Of coarse there is some problems but its a young park and changes will come. The park has a good 7-8 roller coasters. Ranging from baby, wooden, and steel coasters. I t has rides for everyone. It has allot of thrill rides a couple water rides and many kiddie rides. So how can you talk aboat a park that is only 15 years old but already so big for a young park. I would never ever put it as one the worse but one of the top ten six flags parks. DEFINETLY NOT THE WORST WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE THINKING.....DUH.....:mad: :mad:

Actually, the worst park is "Six Flags Over Bumping-Redundant-Topics-That-Are-Two-Years-Old-Like-An-Imbecile Land"

SFstinks
06-16-2003, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by DBCooper

<BR>I have to disagree. Check out Dollywood, IOA, BGT, USF, and SWO.
<BR>
<BR>(Yes, it's Acronym day.) [/B]

SWO is SeaWorld Ohio, which closed after 2000. While I agree that it also could have proved your point, I think the park you were reffering to was SeaWorld Florida (in Orlando), appreviated SWF.

slipknot8527
06-16-2003, 10:16 PM
SFMM is the worst park. That place sucks. I mean, Superman isnt even a coaster! And whats with that vibration on Scream? Give me CP anyday over Six Flags Crap Mountain.

Sir Willow
06-17-2003, 02:13 PM
Well slipknot, since CP isn't a Six Flags park, it doesn't really apply to the conversation now. And how many Six Flags parks have you been to? According to your record, you've only been to SFoG, so how the heck do you think you're qualified to talk about SFMM- a park you've never been to?

I've been to 6 Six Flags Parks- SFMM, SFMW, SFoT, SFWoA, SFKK, and SFGrAm, as well as 2 of their waterparks. Of those, SFGrAm was easily the best park- absolutely wonderful. And sorry mpbigdaug, but the worst of them was easily SFKK. Between the slow, unenthusiastic ride ops without much care about how efficient they were doing their jobs, the fact that it was one of the dirtiest parks I've ever been to, and sorry but all the patrons didn't help it all either (though several made for great jokes).

SFKK has some great rides, but the park overall wasn't a place I would want to return to very often.

BryanWood
06-17-2003, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by mpbigdaug
How can people say that Kentucky Kingdom is one of the worst six flags parks its not. The park is only 15 years old okay and for its age it has grown alot. Im from Louisville where Kentucky Kingdom is located. I have also been to other parks and I got to say that Kentucky Kingdom is as good or better of some othere parks. I think within the past couple years it has really improved. Of coarse there is some problems but its a young park and changes will come. The park has a good 7-8 roller coasters. Ranging from baby, wooden, and steel coasters. I t has rides for everyone. It has allot of thrill rides a couple water rides and many kiddie rides. So how can you talk aboat a park that is only 15 years old but already so big for a young park. I would never ever put it as one the worse but one of the top ten six flags parks. DEFINETLY NOT THE WORST WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE THINKING.....DUH.....:mad: :mad:

An SFKK fanboy, I'd never thought I'd see the day. In order for me to experience the rides of SFKK, they need to be open. Every time I've been to the park in the last few years, at least 5 rides have been down. Twisted Twins is NOT a good ride, they need to get rid of the G-trains(see Villain). T2 is the worst coaster anywhere, period. It's a ride that manages to shuffle forward and backward as the ride moves forward. Can you say pain? Every time I go, trash is all over the park, the paint on rides is fading terribly(Chang, Hellavator) or peeling off and showing it's old colors (T2). Thunder Run and Chang are the saving graces of SFKK, if it weren't for those two rides, you'd never see me at the park again. Chaos and Breakdance are the only good flats there(Quake is NEVER open). Greezed Lightnin' is a great addition, but it has been down so much. How about getting a permit to build a wider bridge across the road? On crowded days, that place is a nightmare. There's a lot to fix at that park, which makes it my least favorite of the SF parks I've been to.

Worst SF park that I've been to: SFKK
Runner Up: SFDL (lack of good rides, poor maintenance on existing rides...other than that, it's not too bad)
Others I've been to: SFWoA and SFoG(my favorite of the four)

coasetrphil
06-17-2003, 02:36 PM
The worst that I have been to would be SFKK. The park was dirty and the capacity was bad. The worst that I would guess is SFEG. It looks really small and crappy.

Carowinds 73-03
06-17-2003, 03:19 PM
Ok well i woulden't say all Six Flags parks suck, out of the parks that i've been to thet only bad one were SFWOA, just a terrable park in general but SFOG was another one but it was no where near as bad as SFWOA.

Zombo
06-17-2003, 03:54 PM
Having been to SFMM, SFA, SFNE, SFoG, and SFGAdv . . .

I'd rate SFNE at the bottom of the pack. Aside from one insanely great hyper and a good drop/launch tower, there's just not much there. The woodies and floorless are nothing to write home about.

The other ones all had a great variety of coasters. SFA does have a bad case of the uglies, but the coaster menu is delicious.

coasterguy1
06-17-2003, 07:21 PM
I've been to SFMM, SFAW, SFFT, SFWoA, and SFA. The worst of those was SFFT. The Rattler is one of the worst wooden coasters Ive been on and Poultergeist wasnt all that special. The Boomerang is just that, a boomerang. Luckily they dont have Jokers Revenge anymore. (But SFNO does) There are probably worse, but of those I have been to, it ranks on the bottom. Of course, it isnt the park's fault (usually) for being a bad park. Let's compare the top of the pack-SFMM to what many people say is the bottom-SFAW.

SFMM is given more coasters than any other park. Three in one year. SFAW was not given a coaster that year, and 3 years before they were given an SLC. It isnt the park's choice if they get an Intamin hyper or a Vekoma Boomerang.

When I went to SFMM, it wasnt what I'd call clean. The lines all had alot of trash strewn about, especially in Batman.

You cant blame a park because it is hot. Houston is hot. It is also humid. Astroworld expresses its apologies that it cannot control the weather.

Im not sure when yall last went to the park, but if you haventy been this year, it has improved. People used to complain about potholes. I dont remember those, but if there were, they arent there. Texas Cyclone has never run this well since Ive been riding it. The best wooden coaster in Texas. Ultra Twister has been painted (at least..part of it) Batman's loop was painted also. No, not enough money to paint the whole ride. But we're pushing for that next year. Greezed Lightnin is celebrating its 25th year. XLR8 has 4 backward facing cars now and also has a nice new sign and a brand new line. The whole Mexicana area looks good now that SWAT and Diablo Falls have been added. There is grass now and Diablo has some nice scenery to it. Oriental Village has a new eatery (a pretty good Chinese Place. Looks very nice) There is a pond with very large koi. And the games plaza next to Dungeon Drop is brand new. Unfortunately, they play annoying songs. But that is because of SF. Visit the park-you may be surprised.

SFGAdvGal
06-17-2003, 08:48 PM
I'm amazed at the fact that not one person has said SFDL.

Out of the ones I've been to (SFGAdv, SFA, SFNE and SFDL) it is the worst. Its last new coaster was S:ROS. Although the drop was excellent, the helices are so big that they're boring, the turn into the bunny hills gave me whiplash, the bunny hills them selves were jerky with no airtime, and the car was incredibly cramped. A main thing missing in this park is a drop ride. Even SFEG has a drop ride. And on that note here is my feeble attempt to prove that SFDL could possibly be worst than SFEG.

SFEG has:

The Flying Coaster - while the name is lame, at least its new
Boomerang - Standard cookie cutter
The Mind Eraser - Another cookie cutter
Twister II - classic wooden coaster
Shake Rattle and Roll - Top Spin
Tower of Doom - 220 ft drop ride
XLR8 - 150 ft. sky coaster, two towers, upcharge
Turbobungy - an typical eurobungy thing, upcharge
Disastor Canyon - Rapids ride
Shipwreck Falls - 50ft drop splash boat/flume ride (don't know proper name)
SideWinder - Arrow launched loop
Kiddie section along with kiddie coaster (Great Chase)
A small inner water park
Plus the typical stuff - Chaos, Ferris Wheel, tilt-a-whirl, swinging ship and the sort

SFDL has:
S:ROS - see my opinion above
Predator - classic wooden coaster
Viper - old Arrow - As i rode it i was surprised but its smoothness, however I felt it was the most boring roller coaster I've been on. Even kiddie coasters have aroused more excitement in me.
Mind Eraser - SLC, just like at SFEG
Boomerang Coast to Coaster - Making the name longer and dumber does not make it any different than any other vekoma boomerang
Skycoaster - 180ft single tower, upcharge
Slingshot - Chance (i believe) 300 ft tall, upcharge
Grizzly Run - rapids ride
Twister - Top Spin
Water Park
ShipWreck falls - 50 ft water flume, like the one at SFEG
Poland Spring Plunge - Log flume, boring, does not get you wet, only your feet
Turbobungy - upcharge like at SFEG
A kiddie park with kiddie coaster (Brain Teaser)
Plus the typical stuff.

Now as I compare the two lists:
SFEG does not have a log flume, slingshot, and its sky coaster is a bit shorter
SFDL does not have a drop ride

After all my work I suppose SFDL is slightly better, having not visited SFEG to completely judge it. However SFDL is a close runner up as the worst park.

Chris L
06-18-2003, 12:00 AM
I have only been to two Six Flags parks (Worlds of Adventure, and Magic Mountain). And to make a fair personal opinion on the topic and not being judgemental towards the other parks I haven't been to: Magic Mountain flattens Worlds of Adventure into a pancake, and sinks it 100-feet into the earth. That's to put it in simple words.

BryanWood
06-18-2003, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by SFGAdvGal
I'm amazed at the fact that not one person has said SFDL.

Out of the ones I've been to (SFGAdv, SFA, SFNE and SFDL) it is the worst. Its last new coaster was S:ROS. Although the drop was excellent, the helices are so big that they're boring, the turn into the bunny hills gave me whiplash, the bunny hills them selves were jerky with no airtime, and the car was incredibly cramped. A main thing missing in this park is a drop ride. Even SFEG has a drop ride. And on that note here is my feeble attempt to prove that SFDL could possibly be worst than SFEG.



But S:RoS absolutely shatters any coaster that SFEG has. S:RoS is Darien Lake's saving grace. No airtime? You must've been stapled like mad in your seat. Even on bad days I get great ejector air on that ride. So what if it's jerky? The park is actually clean, well landscaped, all the rides run, and the employees are pretty efficient and friendly. Sure, they may not have the best selection, but they have other things that makes it a decent park. I visit it once a year, because it's worth it. SFKK on the other hand.... :rolleyes:

BrooklynRider
06-18-2003, 02:07 PM
This year I've been to SFMM, SFGrAdv, SFA and SFWoA. There's not alot separating these in my opinion. I think SFA needs to complete their paths circuit and continue the paths that end at the path to Batwing straight through to Mind Eraser. SFGrAdv inMay looked l ike it was paying attention to the bashing it took over past seasons, and concentrating on maintenance and customer service. SFWoA could do nothing but improve as it was the absolute worst park I had ever visited as of last year. This year it had most rides up and running and I didn't experience any major debacle - that's a rave for them. SFMM I visited in February. My first trip and, although it was fun, based on the way folks sing its praises on TN - I was disappointed. Not bad - but certainly not in the same league as CP.

topfueler
06-18-2003, 09:33 PM
Out of SFMM, SFOG, SFA, and SFGradv, I'd have to say that OG was the nastiest. The queue areas for Mindbender and Freefall were absolutely disgusting. Gum was everywhere; I feared touching anything. I guess it's their way of keeping people off the rails. And it obviously didn't happen overnight. How their management can ignore that is beyond belief. But, that was back in '99, maybe it's gotten better since then.

SFGadvKing
06-18-2003, 10:06 PM
i've only been to sfgadv, sfgam, and sfwoa. the worst is no doubt sfwoa. they have great coasters and its a nice park but they just suck there. they were running one train on almost all of their coasters on a sunday in august. i guess im kinda spoiled from only going to the top 2 of the top 3 best SF parks. by looks, sfeg looks the worst, they have nothing there.

mpbigdaug
06-19-2003, 01:28 AM
I STILL THINK THAT SIX FLAGS KENTUCKY KINDOM IS STILL A GOOD SIX FLAGS PARK. EVERYTIME I GO THERE WHICH IS QUITE OFTEN. THE EMPLOYEES ARE NOT RUDE BUT ACTUALLY FUNNY AND AMUSEING. SOME MAY BE RUDE BUT IT IS HARD TO FIND GOOD HARD WORKING PEOPLE KNOW A DAYS. EARLIER SOMEONE SAID THAT THERE RIDES ARE ALWAYS CLOSED....WHAT WAS HE TALKING ABOAT. THE OTHER DAY ALL OF ITS COASTERS EXCEPT ONE WERE RUNNING WELL WITHOUT A PROBLEM. KENTUCKY KINGDOM IS STILL A YOUNG PARK LIKE I SAID BEFORE AND IS CONSTANTLY IMPROVING. THE PARK IS ALMOST NEVER CROWDED AND YOU CAN GET ON MANY RIDES WITHOUT HAVING TO WAIT...AS FOR OTHER PARKS THERE IS ALWAYS THOSE HOUR OR MORE WAITS. A COUPLE YEARS AGO I THOUGHT KK SUCKED. BUT TO MY RECENT VISITS IT HAS REALLY IMPROVED AND MADE ME CHANGE MY MIND. WITHIN THE PAST COUPLE YEARS THERE HAS BEEN MANY RIDES ADDED TO THE PARK...WHICH HAS REALLY TURNED THE PARK AROUND...IT HAS RIDES FOR ANYONES TASTES. THE ONLY DAYS THE PARK IS EVER REALLY CROWDED IS SATURDAYS BUT WHEN IT IS CROWDED ITS NOT THAT BIG OF A CROWD. OF COARSE I KNOW ALL ABOAT THIS PARK AS I HAVE SEEN IT CONSTANTLY IMPROVE AND ADD RIDES....CAUSE I DO LIVE IN LOUISVILLE.

Andy_X69
06-19-2003, 04:10 AM
I am of the opinion that Six Flags itself sucks. It is a horrid establishment that create rides with substandard designs (with the exception of a few), build them with little to no scenery, plonk them over a concrete slab and advertise the hell out of the ride. Then they run it at lowest possible capacity, never clean their parks, have overpriced foods and third-rate at best staff who look like they are permanently stoned.

Also, their parks focus mainly on 'bigger is better' coasters whilst neglecting ideas such as 'broad appeal' and 'pleasureable ride sensation'. Admittedly, this criticism of their rollercoasters also applies to Cedar Point but at least Cedar Point actually has relatively pleasant staff and scenery.

The best themepark in my opinion is Alton Towers in the UK. Nemesis is by far the best inverted I have been on (With the possible exception of Raptor) and I have been on Alpengeist, Montu, Batman, Raptor, Talon, Great Bear and Nemesis Inferno. AIR is the best of the flying coasters out there. The ride lasts longer than any of the supermen and exploits the feeling of flight in a better way. And Finally, AIR is a work of art, whilst the Supermen are just Concrete Slab material.

The Verdict is as follows: SIX FLAGS ARE EVIL! They are a tool of Satan and their parks should be shut down and run by a company that actually cares about giving their consumers a good time. Cedar Fair or the Tussaud's Group perhaps?

jimmycoasterman
06-19-2003, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by mpbigdaug
I STILL THINK THAT SIX FLAGS KENTUCKY KINDOM IS STILL A GOOD SIX FLAGS PARK. EVERYTIME I GO THERE WHICH IS QUITE OFTEN. THE EMPLOYEES ARE NOT RUDE BUT ACTUALLY FUNNY AND AMUSEING. SOME MAY BE RUDE BUT IT IS HARD TO FIND GOOD HARD WORKING PEOPLE KNOW A DAYS. EARLIER SOMEONE SAID THAT THERE RIDES ARE ALWAYS CLOSED....WHAT WAS HE TALKING ABOAT. THE OTHER DAY ALL OF ITS COASTERS EXCEPT ONE WERE RUNNING WELL WITHOUT A PROBLEM. KENTUCKY KINGDOM IS STILL A YOUNG PARK LIKE I SAID BEFORE AND IS CONSTANTLY IMPROVING. THE PARK IS ALMOST NEVER CROWDED AND YOU CAN GET ON MANY RIDES WITHOUT HAVING TO WAIT...AS FOR OTHER PARKS THERE IS ALWAYS THOSE HOUR OR MORE WAITS. A COUPLE YEARS AGO I THOUGHT KK SUCKED. BUT TO MY RECENT VISITS IT HAS REALLY IMPROVED AND MADE ME CHANGE MY MIND. WITHIN THE PAST COUPLE YEARS THERE HAS BEEN MANY RIDES ADDED TO THE PARK...WHICH HAS REALLY TURNED THE PARK AROUND...IT HAS RIDES FOR ANYONES TASTES. THE ONLY DAYS THE PARK IS EVER REALLY CROWDED IS SATURDAYS BUT WHEN IT IS CROWDED ITS NOT THAT BIG OF A CROWD. OF COARSE I KNOW ALL ABOAT THIS PARK AS I HAVE SEEN IT CONSTANTLY IMPROVE AND ADD RIDES....CAUSE I DO LIVE IN LOUISVILLE.

"Number A- you don't have to shout.
Number B- Do you realize how many interent etiquette laws you are breaking by typing in all caps like that? Well, you're breaking one. Don't type in all Caps."

BryanWood
06-19-2003, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by mpbigdaug
I STILL THINK THAT SIX FLAGS KENTUCKY KINDOM IS STILL A GOOD SIX FLAGS PARK. EVERYTIME I GO THERE WHICH IS QUITE OFTEN. THE EMPLOYEES ARE NOT RUDE BUT ACTUALLY FUNNY AND AMUSEING. SOME MAY BE RUDE BUT IT IS HARD TO FIND GOOD HARD WORKING PEOPLE KNOW A DAYS. EARLIER SOMEONE SAID THAT THERE RIDES ARE ALWAYS CLOSED....WHAT WAS HE TALKING ABOAT. THE OTHER DAY ALL OF ITS COASTERS EXCEPT ONE WERE RUNNING WELL WITHOUT A PROBLEM.

Every time I've went to the park, at least 5 rides were closed. I know what I was talking about, I do know how to count. The other day, maybe all of the coasters were running, but EVERY time I've(notice I said I, not you!) been there, at least 5 RIDES(coasters, flats, etc.) have been closed. Don't insult my intelligence. It yields bad results.

ryanb122
06-20-2003, 03:25 PM
i have 2 SFA and SFEG i tottaly hate both!!!!!!

Byron
06-21-2003, 12:44 AM
Originally posted by loriu
The worst one I've been to so far is Astroworld. Horrible layout, we waited longer for food than some of the rides, just too many things to list.

Dude...it's a circle. how bad could it possibly be?

As for AW....you can't judge the park uness you've been there. you can't tell how good a coaster is by age, nor how it looks. As an ACER put it at ACE Spring Con, AW has a way of running coasters from other parks better than they did.

tacoking
06-21-2003, 06:56 PM
SFEG. I have not been there, but from what I have heard and seen it does not look good at all.

coasterguy1
06-21-2003, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by HoustonThrills
Dude...it's a circle. how bad could it possibly be?

As for AW....you can't judge the park uness you've been there. you can't tell how good a coaster is by age, nor how it looks. As an ACER put it at ACE Spring Con, AW has a way of running coasters from other parks better than they did.

Ah yes, SpringCon. What a great event that was. And I dont know which ACEer that was, but he is right. Viper is a great coaster. And Houston Thrills is right..how could Astroworld have a bad layout when it is a circle? I mean, it is the best layout of a park I've been to. The only rides that really brnach off from this are Thunder River, Mayan Mind Bender and Greezed Lightnin. You could maybe say XLR8, but that is a stretch. And really, they arent that hard to find. I mean, one is a big Mayan temple and the other one has 2 large spikes that are pretty visible. Also, they are doing alot to prevent graffiti on Texas Cyclone. They painted the rails all through SpringCon, and they've painted them a grey now.

slipknot8527
06-22-2003, 02:34 PM
Sir Willow, I was being extremely sarcastic...trying to start a flame war..and you did! Heh, sorry...