View Full Version : Best wooden coaster designer ever??

05-06-2001, 11:31 PM
Who do you think is the best wooden coaster designer ever?
<BR>I personally think its
<BR>Church AND Prior

05-06-2001, 11:38 PM
Harry Guy Traver or John A. Miller

05-07-2001, 09:28 AM
Herb Schmeck / PTC

Rob Ascough
05-07-2001, 11:19 AM
I'm a huge fan of Herb Schmeck... he is responsible for the design of my all-time favorite coaster, the Knoebels Phoenix, as well as wonderful rides such as the Dorney Thunderhawk, Hershey and Great Escape Comets, and the Lake Compounce Wildcat.
<BR>He was a master when it came to airtime, and all of his designs have a certain recklessness to them... they feel out-of-control and wild, but never to the point of being uncomfortable or punishing (well, the LC Wildcat is kinda wild in the back!)

05-07-2001, 03:05 PM
Harry Traver, without a doubt! He was totally mad. Would love a time machine to ride some of his monsters. Boy, I miss Palisades Park.
<BR>Prior & Church, Schmeck and Miller were also geniuses in their own right. Just think..
<BR>They did all of that before computers and CAD.
<BR>The gang at GCI are becoming masters in their own right. The Millennium Flyer cars are incredible and their racers, duelers, and twisters are becomimng legendary. May they build many, many more.

05-07-2001, 03:12 PM
I think that Traver, Miller, Church & Prior were all very good designers and Curtis D. Summers as well.
<BR>CCI and GCI are the kings of todays woodies.

Dr. Insanity
05-07-2001, 07:30 PM
In all fairness, can we really say that Harry Traver was a great designer without having ridden his coasters? These things had a reputation for being rough enough to cause broken bones and the occasional death. It's a shame none of his coasters are with us today. CCI and GCI have done some absolutely brilliant rides in the Traver tradition, but that's using modern technology.
<BR>Having said that, I must admit that my jaw dropped more than a few times looking at the Harry Traver: Legends of Terror book. Every coaster fan MUST read this book. That book is one of the greatest thrill rides around!

05-07-2001, 07:47 PM
We dont judge him as the best due to rides that are still in existance (Which are none to my knowledge). I'm sure there are a few peeps that will agree with me that his name is mentioned due to the fact he was visionary who pushed limits to discover what potential rides of the future could bring. At least that is why i mentioned him.<BR><BR><font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: flcoasterfan on 2001-05-07 19:48 ]</font>

05-07-2001, 08:19 PM
Prior & Church
<BR>The Giant Dippers rule!

05-07-2001, 11:44 PM
Oh decisions, decisions, decisions....
<BR>Well, in terms of appearances my vote goes to Prior & Church and the company that seems to be their modern incarnation, GCI. Lightning Racer is one of my top 2 coasters.
<BR>In terms of riding fun, my vote goes to Herb Schmeck. Pheonix is the other of my top 2 coasters.
<BR>Other coasters I've especially enjoyed are P&C's Belmont Giant Dipper (my only Church ridden so far); Schmeck's Comet(Hersey) and Thunderhawk; GCI's Roar(SFA); and CCI's Ghostrider.

05-08-2001, 02:09 AM
John A. Miller
<BR>Jack Rabbit in Kennywood has the best MOMENT of airtime anywhere!

Dr. Insanity
05-08-2001, 09:37 PM
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<BR>You've got that right! That's the only thrill ride where I've genuinely felt like I was going to be thrown to my death. And the ride seems so harmless up to that point! <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">

05-08-2001, 11:17 PM
I think that Dennis McNulty from CCI is the best coaster designer of our time. He designed all the great CCI's, Rampage, Boss, Legend, etc. Too bad he left the company to pursue other interests. It will be interesting to see if CCI will continue to design rides of that caliber.

05-09-2001, 03:53 PM
Custom Coasters International
<BR>The Villain is the best

06-04-2001, 12:12 AM
Geoge Rodgurimo

06-04-2001, 01:25 AM
How about John Allen? He built some great wooden rides, especially the Racer at Paramount Kings Island.

X Marks The Spot
06-04-2001, 02:41 PM
D.Summers and the CCI people!!!

Kid Koala
06-04-2001, 02:51 PM
I hope its CCI as I will be riding the Villian tomorrow.

06-04-2001, 03:27 PM
I would say CCI and GCI. They are both SOOOOOOO close I can't tell...

coaster man098
06-04-2001, 03:51 PM
i perfer the modern marvels of GCI and CCI!

Kid Koala
06-14-2001, 03:11 PM
It really is CCI Villian is great.

06-14-2001, 03:44 PM
herb schmeck for the past but in the present i have to say it is a tie between CCI and GCI

06-14-2001, 04:13 PM
My favorite old desiner is Miller or Shmeck.

06-23-2001, 08:09 PM
old herbie shmeck

06-23-2001, 08:19 PM
One ride on Cheetah at WA made me decide that CCI was at the top of my list!!!!

X Marks The Spot
06-23-2001, 08:40 PM
The CCI people are the best designers!!!

06-23-2001, 10:49 PM
John A. Miller is the best old time designer. He built Jackrabbit, Racer, and Pippin (now the Thunderbolt) at Kennywood.
<BR>CCI is the best today, followed closely by GCI.

06-24-2001, 02:08 AM
For old timers, I say Miller but CCI and GCI are the Gods of Woodies now.

Dale Caskey
06-25-2001, 03:03 PM
JOHN MILLER, hands down!

Ben Keller
06-25-2001, 03:10 PM
Harry Traver.

06-25-2001, 03:11 PM

06-27-2001, 11:27 PM
Herb Schmeck designed my favorites, but it coulda been Traver if his had survived. With all the interest in the Crystal Beach Cyclone, wonder if anyone will resurrect it as a ride-film or computer simulation or something?
<BR>Funny that no one mentioned Arrow in this thread, even as a joke...

06-27-2001, 11:28 PM
John Allen
<BR>Harry Trave wasn't a good designer, just outragious.
<BR>All your base are belong to us!<BR><BR><font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Kraken on 2001-06-27 23:29 ]</font>

06-28-2001, 10:06 AM
I love all CCI coasters.

06-28-2001, 11:19 AM

Kennywood Insider
06-28-2001, 01:37 PM
John A. Miller is the best of all time! Can you say airtime?
<BR>He also invented many necessary parts for coasters like the upstop and chain dog among others.

Apollo's Chariot
06-28-2001, 01:57 PM

06-29-2001, 01:50 PM
Summers + Dinn (late 80's, early 90's) built huge, fun and VIOLENT rides. I love Hercules @ Dorney. But sometimes their rides got too violent. CCI and GCI build incredible coasters, but the classic designers didn't need CAD or PC Print-outs to build great coasters. Miller, P+C, Traver and Schmeck all built great rides. Personally, I think Prior + Church were the best. The Aeroplane Coaster was one of the most crazy rides ever.

06-29-2001, 01:52 PM

06-29-2001, 02:10 PM
CCI, Villain is excellent

07-05-2001, 06:08 PM
<BR>Classic=Harry Traver

07-07-2001, 03:32 PM
harry travor

07-07-2001, 04:19 PM
the beast

Raging Rider
07-07-2001, 04:21 PM
John Miller, definately.

07-07-2001, 04:24 PM
Gwazi - The 2 interlocking coasters make for an great ride!

07-07-2001, 04:35 PM
CCI no contest!!!

07-07-2001, 05:08 PM
yeah cci and gci are fantastic, they just make amazing woodies every time....

07-07-2001, 05:58 PM
John A Miller...Somebody said that he did it before CAD and other programs. Imagine what he could do now! Wow! He has two coasters at Kennywood which are classics. Racer is the only remaining single track racing coaster--amazing. Jackrabbit with the deep double dip. Pippin...which when they rebuilt it (not with Miller) kept many of his features...

07-07-2001, 06:01 PM
I agree. I think Church and Prior were the best.