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franklelock
05-07-2001, 07:18 PM
Here's another unique idea that i've been thinking about for a while:
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<BR>What if a new type of track was made so that a coaster car above and below the track could run at different times instead of wasting money on two separate coasters?

Jonathan Gelert
05-11-2001, 06:40 PM
Isn't Setpoint working on that?

DBCooper
05-11-2001, 06:50 PM
There is a problem with this idea. The physics of a standard coaster and an inverted coaster are extremely different. A turn that might only pull 3g on a standard might pull far fewer than that from the inverted side of the track-- or far more.
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<BR>Remember, the human body can only stand a maximum of 6g as a rule, and that for only about four seconds before lack of blood flow to the brain causes G-LOC.
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<BR>So an over-under coaster would have to be a low-g coaster (along the lines of a heartline) to start with, and then be streamlined to handle both sides evenly.
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<BR>I'm guessing it would wind up being a speed coaster, so figure on extra length to put it in that 2:30 to 3:00 "sweet spot" ride duration for queueing. (However, this might mean you could max out at four trains if each train had six four-across cars--on each side of the track!)
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<BR>Vekoma's Flying Dutchman, however, could probably be doubled--and since I think they're already heartline by design (not in the sense of being inside the track, but in the sense that the passengers' torsos are in line with the rest of the track), and since lateral Gs aren't as much of a problem, this might work out better.
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<BR>B&M is also working on a coaster or two that run alongside the track...
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<BR>Shall we get <i>sidetracked</i> sometime this decade?<BR><BR><font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: DBCooper on 2001-05-11 21:56 ]</font>

davidhinds84
05-11-2001, 06:57 PM
Actually i was watching a documentary and after 6-7 G's most people will get a nose bleed, its around 10+ G's where you "black out" This was proved because aerobatic stunt pilots put them selves through huge forces, most far greater than the average rollercoaster, sometimes they have to tense parts of the body to refrain from passing out, certainly doesn't sound like any ride i know, thats for sure <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">

coastergenius100
05-11-2001, 07:45 PM
Hey, where's that guy saying, "please don't use all caps"?

coastergenius100
05-11-2001, 07:45 PM
Hey, where's that guy saying, "please don't use all caps"?

DBCooper
05-11-2001, 09:59 PM
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<BR>Actually i was watching a documentary and after 6-7 G's most people will get a nose bleed, its around 10+ G's where you "black out" This was proved because aerobatic stunt pilots put them selves through huge forces, most far greater than the average rollercoaster, sometimes they have to tense parts of the body to refrain from passing out, certainly doesn't sound like any ride i know, thats for sure <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">
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<BR>Point made, though I'm willing to bet this would put most people off a 6g ride. <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">
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<BR>And some fighter pilots wear g-suits--suits that force blood up out of the legs, usually using air pressure--because otherwise, they wouldn't be able to keep up with their fighters' turns. There's some sort of arithmetic curve that describes the relationship between velocity, turn angle, gravity, and g-force, and if you push it too far... well, let's just say that lost lunch would be the least of your worries. <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">

franklelock
06-18-2001, 03:39 PM
either way, if the kinks were worked out, i would love to ride a ride like this
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LoCoSuMo
06-18-2001, 03:54 PM
This isn't very logical, but have a coaster when your sloped up vertical while your still in the station and then launced up 90 degrees. It would probably have huge gs but it's still sounds pretty cool.

Kid Koala
06-18-2001, 04:26 PM
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<BR>Isn't Setpoint working on that?
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<BR>Setpoint is working on one where two inverted style trains would run on the sides of the track not above and under.

Kraken
06-18-2001, 04:43 PM
You could make 2 seperate tracks, and make them one on top of another.