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Coasterama
05-08-2001, 08:58 PM
I heard through my aunt's friend who works at SFMM that to keep ahead in the coaster
<BR>race--SFMM might build a 330 ft. coaster!

CaliforniaCoasterKing
05-08-2001, 09:03 PM
Maybe then everyon will face it that SFMM is the best!

Coasterfanatic1
05-08-2001, 09:04 PM
I dont see where thats going to happen, maybe in 2 years. They just put in Goliath last year, and putting 2 new ones in this year..If they go GIGA after putting in 250 footer as in Goliath, I would be surprised to see that....Of course then again, MM likes to be trend setters, so who the heck knows anymore..

Coasterama
05-08-2001, 09:11 PM
The only reason I see them putting one out there is to stay in front of the Point.

coaster man098
05-08-2001, 09:15 PM
never. its pointless. people would come off thinking "thats goliath just taller". and anyway, the park has proven they can have hights (3 rides over 200). howabout they prove that they can build good rides without being the tallest

CoasterFreak2k
05-08-2001, 09:28 PM
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<BR>never. its pointless. people would come off thinking "thats goliath just taller". and anyway, the park has proven they can have hights (3 rides over 200). howabout they prove that they can build good rides without being the tallest
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<BR>I bet that is what some people said about MF and Magnum at CP
<BR>I bet people said "Millennium Force is Magnum...Just taller"
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<BR>So it wont surprise me if SFMM gets a giga...i hope they do!!

Sir Willow
05-09-2001, 01:09 AM
I really doubt that they will so soon after putting in Goliath and X (which will also have a 200ft drop). Look for something else on the unusual, new, or radical end. I would tend to lean more along the lines of a flying coaster, an enclosed one, or something else.

Coasterfanatic1
05-09-2001, 01:18 AM
Okay the debate begins, do not put MF in the same lines of Magnum, they are two totally different coasters. Period, nuff said. With MM, they dont need bigger, they have 400 footer, 250 footer and the new ones, what they need is something that borders on obscene and awesome...Hmmmmm, they have 4-d, lets go with uniqueness, any suggestions?..lol

X2001
05-09-2001, 02:58 AM
IMHO I think SFMM will go with a wooden coaster for 2002, IMHO the builder will be Intamin that equals=COLOSSO. A Very very good source has already stated that SFMM was investing in wood, so I believe what the source has said b/c he hasn't been wrong yet. SFMM is hosting an ACE event in 2002 so it would be perfect for SFMM to have a great wooden coaster b/c ACE loves wooden coasters.
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condor27
05-09-2001, 03:02 AM
Honestly, instead of trying to make Six Flags' crown jewels, SFMM, SFGAdv and SFGAm each having more coasters than Cedar Point, what is done to improve coaster-deprived SFEG?
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<BR>How about SFAW, SFKK........
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<BR>SFGAdv and SFGAm already have 3 B&Ms, SFMM has more prototype rides than most parks, but poor SFEG only has one woodie, an SLC and a Boomerang.

Soggy
05-09-2001, 11:44 AM
"...but poor SFEG only has one woodie, an SLC and a Boomerang."
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<BR>They also have extremely low attendance, a very small market, and no major competition within 400 miles. Any money spent there is just throwing it away, from an economic point of view. SFMM is in the largest market, has Disney and Knotts near by, and has fantastic attendance. It's called ROI.
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<BR>As for the rumor of a Giga, BUNK!!
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<BR>Wood is the word. Adios, SOB!

Sir Willow
05-09-2001, 12:48 PM
With 2 wood coasters already, I doubt that it's going to be wood. Replacing Psyclone might have been a possibility, except they just finished a major refurbishment that is supposed to dramatically improve it. And Colossus is due for one also, besides the fact they certainly would be removing it. And 3 woodies seems a bit much for one park.
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<BR>One other possibility, and one that would dramatically improve the park, is adding a few flat rides throughout. With only 6 flats anymore, and no new ones in a long time, this is one area that would be a huge improvement.

Coasterfanatic1
05-09-2001, 01:36 PM
As much as I love steel, the more woodies the better...PKD in VA has 3 woodies, no problems there..Most parks have atleast 2 now and some have 3....I really think SFMM should concentrate on something unreal and unique, they strive in that area. I would love to see an underground/steel combo water coaster with tunnels and hard banking turns.

bsfcstrfrk
05-12-2001, 04:10 PM
they need a really good woody. They already have some good steel.

PINK FLOYD FANATIC
05-12-2001, 06:16 PM
They need an airtime filled(and I airtime filled with ZERO ****ing trim brakes)Intamin hyperwoodie with is more than 220 feet tall, more than 7400 feet long and STEEPER than 61 degress and have a minumum of 35-40 second of total(of all the hills combined)and several moment of a least 4+ seconds of unintterupted airtime and at least 5 tunnels with a VERY WICKED helix with several spots of combination negative and lateral gs!!

Tyler Eaves
05-12-2001, 06:19 PM
Actually, PKD has 4 or 5 woodies:
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<BR>Scooby Doos Ghoster Coaster (Junior)
<BR>Rebel Yell (Race,Some count as 2)
<BR>Grizzly (Twister)
<BR>Hurler (Triple out and back)
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coastergenius100
05-12-2001, 06:36 PM
Yeah, but every one of them all suck (except for Hurler though that was ok).

Tyler Eaves
05-12-2001, 06:40 PM
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X2001
05-12-2001, 06:48 PM
Pink floyd how in the hail are we sharing the same wooden coaster dreams LOL, I would love for SFMM to get a wooden coaster like that. I am sure the drop might be 220 and it may be steeper then 61*, but I doubt SFMM with put in a 7400 foot wooden coaster. I say if the rumors are true for the wooden coaster then it will be no more then 5000+ feet.
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<BR>Anyway SFMM will get a giga coaster but not next year, I will say they should have one by 2005.Goliath is a hypertwister so SFMM can put in a giga out and back or freeform like MF. Just like CP has Magnum and MF, Maggie is a hyper out in back MF is a giga freeform. These are two different types of coasters just b/c they both have big drops dosen't mean there the same type of ride. Anyone that has ridden Magum and MF knows that these rides ride are completely different.
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<BR>Parks can have as many wooden coasters as they want, there are plenty of parks with more then two wooden coasters.The morjority of the times the wooden ones are rated higer then the steel ones in the park anyway. SFMM has two wooden coasters but the main thing is they need a GOOD ONE!!!!!. SFMM has 15 coasters 13 of them are steel and the other 2 are wooden coasters that need serious help. I don't see why SFMM can't get a great wooden coaster for the GP to ride while they get the other 2 back into shape.<BR><BR><font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: X2001 on 2001-05-12 18:50 ]</font>

Tyler Eaves
05-12-2001, 06:51 PM
SFMM <!-- BBCode Start --><B>HAD</B><!-- BBCode End --> a great one. They day they hired Jim Blackie was a sad one indeed. (For those that don't know he's the one that butchered Colossus...and Revolution, and will probably try his best with Goliath.)

PINK FLOYD FANATIC
05-12-2001, 08:10 PM
When did they hire that ***hole Jim Blackie? Was that in the late 70's early 80's or much more recent? Is there any chance they could can the ****er??

Screamweaver
05-12-2001, 08:41 PM
Jim Blackie no longer works for SFMM. To me that was better news than the three coaster announcement. I'm not sure where he went, but you won't see him strolling the Mountain any longer.
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<BR>As for wood? SFMM's next coaster most likely will be wood, built by either Intamin or Vekoma, supposedly opening in May of 2002 just in time for Coaster Con. I hope after that the park takes a LONG break from coaster building and adds flatrides, as well as new trains for Revolution.

PINK FLOYD FANATIC
05-12-2001, 09:55 PM
I still hope that they will at least make it slightly longer than Shivering Timbers! I hope it will be at least 200-300 feet longer track than Colossos(Intamin woodie)! If they go with a 220 foot drop it will need to have at least as many hill as Colosso!! I don't want the ride to be too short and if it isn't at least as long as Heide Park's Colossos I am worried that the ride won't have enough elements or airtime spots!!

Marc
07-17-2001, 04:39 AM
they shouldnt build a slightly taller coaster they should build a much taller coaster

Coalhouse
07-17-2001, 07:04 AM
I believe the rumor of a woodie coming to SFMM more then a one not coming. I just hope that it's a CCI. Ghostrider rules, and I'm sure they could make a better one then that. Beyond Orgasmic. BUT I'd also hope to see them use steel supports because I don't trust quakes and wood. Either way I'm chill with what they have as is.

dingo65
07-17-2001, 10:15 AM
Like everyone else, a Giga would be pointless with 2 hypercoasters and the tallest coaster on earth (if you call it a coaster <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif"> ) they dont need more height. Like coasterman said, build smaller with more quality. Why not a GCI dueling woodie???

slayer666
07-17-2001, 10:55 AM
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<BR>On 2001-05-08 21:15, coaster man098 wrote:
<BR>never. its pointless. people would come off thinking "thats goliath just taller". and anyway, the park has proven they can have hights (3 rides over 200). howabout they prove that they can build good rides without being the tallest
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<BR>I bet that is what some people said about MF and Magnum at CP
<BR>I bet people said "Millennium Force is Magnum...Just taller"
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<BR>So it wont surprise me if SFMM gets a giga...i hope they do!!
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<BR>no they didnt say that about Force because Force was built 11 years after Magnum was. Building a Giga after building a Hyper 2 years earlier doesnt make n e sense.
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Swimming King
07-17-2001, 12:31 PM
Where the heck will they get the money and the land? There's a reason why X is so close to Viper isn't there? And they need to make the money they put into this year too.

antfarm007
07-17-2001, 01:53 PM
Does everyone here forget that Six Flags has a HUUUGGGEEE outstanding debt that needs to start being paid off in 2002, I think that the mountain will either get nothin or a intamin wood

DragonSamurai
07-17-2001, 02:22 PM
LOl land!!! what the heck SFMM has tons of land (read like 25% of land left undeveloped)
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<BR>Yes i wish they would mke a huge woody...with oldschool lap bars <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif"> now that would be the best yes and we all hate the stupid A## who butchered Colosus (sighs>>)
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<BR>I blive though they should make some sorta hyper in the future that combines a coaster and a watter ride!! someone buld one plz <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif"> with water falls falling on the coaster..
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DragonSamurai
07-17-2001, 02:23 PM
Hey i got an idea !!!
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<BR>Make it a Giga woody!! yess plz
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<BR>hehehe <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif"> jk

Chris L
07-17-2001, 04:20 PM
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<BR>On 2001-05-08 21:15, coaster man098 wrote:
<BR>never. its pointless. people would come off thinking "thats goliath just taller". and anyway, the park has proven they can have hights (3 rides over 200). howabout they prove that they can build good rides without being the tallest
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<BR>I bet that is what some people said about MF and Magnum at CP
<BR>I bet people said "Millennium Force is Magnum...Just taller"
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<BR>So it wont surprise me if SFMM gets a giga...i hope they do!!
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<BR>Yea, but two differences. Millennium Force and Magnum XL-200 are seperated by more than a decade. And both have different ride motives. Magnum XL-200 is an out and back, Millennium Force is a unique sleek free-form roller coaster.

CPFan
07-17-2001, 04:38 PM
I highly doubt SFMM will get a 330 ft coaster soon. Besides, we all know that CP will get the first 400 ft. coaster. It is like a pattern.

Aaron
07-17-2001, 06:09 PM
A giga in 2002? As much as I would like to see this happen, it won't. MM spent a LOT of money this year.

antfarm007
07-17-2001, 06:21 PM
Six Flags is 2.6 billion in debt, which most start to be paid in 2002, so I think a giga is doubtful, I think any coaster is doubtful for SFMM or most other SF parks

KoasterKing
07-17-2001, 06:26 PM
not any time soon mm has alot of dept to pay off first

Natelox
07-17-2001, 07:10 PM
i've said it more than once, and i'm gonna say it again, 2002 brings an arrow wild mouse to SFMM. it would b cool to see a 330ft tall coaster.

bryansmiller
07-17-2001, 07:45 PM
The rumor is a woodie... they wouldn't spend the money to put in a giga this soon in the game.

CorbinA
07-17-2001, 08:13 PM
Yea right and i heard from my cousins best friend's brother's aunt that SFMM is going to build a 3000 foot tall coaster with 50 loops that goes underwater and goes through a ring of fire at the end.

Tom Zeliff
07-27-2001, 01:44 PM
This should have been posted in Rumors...so that's where I've moved it.

-Tom

Andy Hodgson
07-27-2001, 03:27 PM
i definitely want to see a giga go to SFMM
they have plenty of land too.

AJRNWO316
07-28-2001, 01:11 AM
I don't see what the big deal is over the whole SFMM and Cedar Point coaster thing. What does the regular Joe Blow care about? They usually care about what park is closest to them. I know that I live in NJ and don't care who has more. I'm not going out to Cedar Point or MM anytime soon (unless someone wants to give me some money). Most people just want their home park to have good rides. I can see if your homepark is SFMM or Cedar Point. Then I'd get in on this whole war.

HisDougness
07-28-2001, 02:20 AM
Well, maybe a woodie is possible... but i'm not so sure. I think the Wild Mouse is more probable, although they could do both, you never know... it is SFMM after all. They need to do some work on the rides they have now... i heard Psyclone underwent major work to make it better. If only they could undo some of Mr. Blackie's work on Colossus (sigh). New trains on revolution would really help, and those were supposed to come out 3 or 4 years ago! Those are like the Deja Vu of ride improvements, lol!

Natelox
07-28-2001, 04:55 PM
they are gonna get a wild mouse (arrow), would be cool to get a giga, maybe around 350ft.

The_Evil_Tediz
07-28-2001, 05:13 PM
I doubt if SFMM gets a big project anytime soon. Probably a wild mouse.

Honan Beetch
07-29-2001, 06:01 PM
I agree. I don't think they'll be getting anything big right after X and Déjà Vu. A wild mouse is logical and possible.

CPFan
07-29-2001, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by CaliforniaCoasterKing
Maybe then everyon will face it that SFMM is the best!

Have you ever been to CP, BGW, IOA............

X COASTER
07-29-2001, 08:46 PM
If any park is going to be getting a giga it's Knotts. Jack Falfas practically gave the clue away by saying it had to be a 300 footer. So Knotts will get the giga. SFMM will get a megawoodie. Expect that next year.

Metalhead 777
07-29-2001, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by coaster man098
never. its pointless. people would come off thinking "thats goliath just taller". and anyway, the park has proven they can have hights (3 rides over 200). howabout they prove that they can build good rides without being the tallest


Very good point. I agree that if they were gonna build a giga they wouldn't build Goliath just 2 years earlier. I think that a woodie, or maybe a impulse, or an Acrophobia would be likely though......

cgodsey
07-30-2001, 12:01 PM
I believe it will be an Intamin woodie, but I would like to see an extreme ArrowBATic with like 7 or 8 inversions. I wonder why no park has cashed in on that ride yet???

antfarm007
07-30-2001, 02:31 PM
A giga at SFMM next year i doubt, SF dont have that kind of money

RiddRevenger
08-01-2001, 10:35 AM
so in conclusion, SFMM 2002:

-wild mouse
-(drop tower) maybe
-(wooden) maybe

those are the only things that I can think of that are reasonable comments from the people on this thread. The possibility of MM adding two coasters next year is more than likely because they know that CP wil also add two. This also means more kiddy coasters being built to sastify the recordholders. sigh

drmoof
08-07-2001, 10:16 AM
Has anyone thought that maybe SFMM might not get anything next year? What did they get in 1999?- Nothing, and who says they can't do the same in 2002? They just got 5 new attractions, 3 that are major in less than 2 years.

My best bet is they will get a new wooden/twister in early-mid 2003.

mICHIGANFAN2001
08-07-2001, 10:59 AM
SFMM isn't going to build a coaster in 2002 they just got done building how many? The only reason the built so many coasters is so they would have they most! They dont care about the quality of their coasters. Yes I am a Cedar Point fan and SFMM isnt even in the same lines as Cedar Point. :D

CPFan
08-07-2001, 12:23 PM
SF needs to relax a little and focus on their smaller parks like elitch gardens.

cgodsey
08-07-2001, 01:04 PM
I agree they need to replenish smaller parks, but face it... SFMM is their greatest money maker. The park does more business than SFEG and other parks COMBINED! Adding rides there are more logical than adding them in low attendance parks.

I also think they need to add something to SFEG or they will never make any attendance jumps. Hopefully they will use common sense and add something to SFEG and SFSTL instead of smaller parks that got something last year (SFOG & SFOT)

antfarm007
08-07-2001, 03:12 PM
Yeah right! they just built 3 coasters

drmoof
08-07-2001, 11:10 PM
I believe that sfmm WILL build a giga, but NOT in 2002. They will build one in about 9 years making it a 10 anniversary of Goliath. Just like what CP did with Magnum and MF.

It will be an out n back layout and above the 400 ft mark. I bet!

Whatever way they build it, it will hold a record for somthing- it's SFMM we're talking about!

They should build a giant drop ride on the back-side of Superman in 2002 just like what they did to 'Tower Of Terror' at Dreamworld in Australia.

B&M Fanatic
08-08-2001, 09:05 AM
I want to believe that this is true but I really don't think so because of Goliath

DragonSamurai
08-08-2001, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by drmoof
I believe that sfmm WILL build a giga, but NOT in 2002. They will build one in about 9 years making it a 10 anniversary of Goliath. Just like what CP did with Magnum and MF.

It will be an out n back layout and above the 400 ft mark. I bet!

Whatever way they build it, it will hold a record for somthing- it's SFMM we're talking about!

They should build a giant drop ride on the back-side of Superman in 2002 just like what they did to 'Tower Of Terror' at Dreamworld in Australia.

I highly doubt the above.....i still think the wild mouse is the best option..cheap..tested..(unlike dejavu).........yet it seems they...allways make a record braker or prototype of some sort...(superman, riddlers, x, deja-vu)

I Say change the hill in superman:te into an XLC type drop lol....tada!! 400 ft coaster...oh and they would have to add more lims up the track to keep superman going at 100 mph for about 25% of the asent..or else they would have to make the lims go faster which i think means taking them out and puting new ones in ..... I personally think that would be the cheapest way to redoo a great ride..get into the record books...transform it into a Continuos circuit...and make it scary as hell....one of the sides could still do the escape..the other would be a coaster..."Superman:Final escape" Hope a Six flags exec is readin this lol (hahaha i know all this is imposible)

What do you think????

coastergenius100
08-08-2001, 09:11 PM
Originally posted by coaster man098
never. its pointless. people would come off thinking "thats goliath just taller". and anyway, the park has proven they can have hights (3 rides over 200). howabout they prove that they can build good rides without being the tallest


Then what do you call X?

DannyBoy
08-08-2001, 11:40 PM
Hmmm, if i were six flags, i would put the giga in some less popular park that needs it more such as SFMW. SFMM already has enough good rides as it is.

drmoof
08-09-2001, 10:13 AM
There's no point in discussing if SFMM is gonna go giga in 2002, 99.9% of all the replies don't believe it anyway. We all know it's not gonna happen. It's just too similar to Goliath too soon. In a few years-fine, but not 2 years after Goliath.

I don't even think they will get any new coaster in 2002, and as much as I would love a new coaster for 2002, I don't blame them if they get nothing. MM deserves a year off after Goliath, DelayJa Vu and X.

markm62
08-09-2001, 05:16 PM
They built X, Deja Vu, Goliath, Goliath Jr., and Thrill Shot all in a small period of time, so I think they will "take a break" of at least a year before building more stuff.

DannyBoy
08-09-2001, 07:33 PM
i agree with mark