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ChrisFL
05-09-2001, 03:02 PM
I haven't been to Cedar Point yet (but I'm planning to later this summer)
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<BR>I've been hearing discussions back and forth about the top speed of this coaster.
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<BR>I've also heard in rumors that the top speed can vary, depending on conditions.
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<BR>Does anybody have facts on this? I don't think it goes over 100mph as some people have suggested in the past, but how much of a diffrence could there be?

ucdaap42
05-09-2001, 03:56 PM
Top speed as recorded by professionals is 93mph. It is physically impossible for the trains to reach 100mph given the drop. I don't know the actualy equations but i'm sure somone out there knows and can give us diff. scenarios with different coefficients of friction.
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<BR>--seth

IOArules
05-09-2001, 04:00 PM
I'm sure that it has various speeds per ride. I mean when the car has no weight in it, the thing can barely make it over the 3rd hill(180ft.). With people in it the things flies over the hill. I think that the weather can have things to do with it too. So I think it can get to speed around 95mph max and probobaly about 88mph low.

Kraken
05-09-2001, 04:09 PM
The speed is 92 Miles per hour.

Chris L
05-09-2001, 05:41 PM
The approximated speed is 92 MPH, but the 93 MPH statistic was the fastest it was ever recorded at officially at that sitting.

RollerFreak
05-09-2001, 07:00 PM
I have ridden MF several times in various conditions. I don't bring a radar gun with me! But I can tell you this, it does seem a little quicker when its warmer. Somewhere between 80-90 degrees. Enjoy your first ride on MF this summer!

Rollercoasterdude44
05-09-2001, 07:03 PM
I'm positive 92mph

HersheyGuy
05-09-2001, 07:59 PM
92mph. Theoretically, it could hit around 93, maybe 94. There's not way, given mass, and height of drop, that the coaster could attain a speed of 100mph.

Coasterama
05-09-2001, 08:16 PM
Yes, it is DEFINETLy 92 mph!! If you
<BR>dont believe me checkout
<BR>www.cedarpoint/milleniumforce.com

Panther525
05-21-2001, 07:14 PM
92 mph

MForce2k
05-21-2001, 08:21 PM
The "official statement" WAS....WAS 92mph. But CP has recently changed it to 93mph. I have heard reports that with people onboard, adding weight, the train will reach 102mph, but I dont know about that one.

beltzies64
05-21-2001, 09:04 PM
Guys, everybody knows that the official speed is 92 mph, so please stop posting that! We are talking about how fast it COULD go. I would say theoretically it could maybe get up to 95 mph with a lot of mass in the train.

CoasterRayJ
05-21-2001, 09:33 PM
I truly believe that during summer nights....The track is nice and hott man it gets up at least 2mph faster at night...It just seems to fly then....Like it doesnt during the day hahah damn its fast

coaster man098
05-21-2001, 09:37 PM
i'm sure its never ventured outside of 90-94, though if they slowed the lifthill down it would probably be closer to 90.

Billenium Force
05-22-2001, 09:28 AM
AAAHHHHHH my friends you are all quite wrong. But that is simply because you do not know the whole story. MF was calculated to go 92 mph before it was built, however, it turned out to be too slow during testing. That is, it had problems creating enough momentum to get up the second hill(after the the 122-degree banked turn). Therefore, the trains are taken over the top of the hill a little faster. Anyone who has ridden it remembers how the train speeded up near the top of the hill. MF now reaches speeds a shade over 100mph. 104 is the fastest I've heard. All the insiders say it is definitely above 100.
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<BR>Have fun riding it!!

LuvJCMusic
05-22-2001, 10:44 AM
It was officially clocked at 93 mph and a height of 310 ft. 8 inches. There was a huge dispute after SD 2000 was made and they had the speed and the height officially recalculated. The train travels up the lift hill an average of 13 mph and by the laws of physics the train cannot travel over 98 mph. Case closed.

Billenium Force
05-22-2001, 04:24 PM
Keyword: AVERAGE
<BR>The average speed going up the hill may be 13 mph, however, like I said before, it starts going faster at the top, so don't calculate possible speeds with 13 mph, because it goes over the top faster than it comes out of the station.
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<BR>It brakes the 100mph barrier, for the person who asked.

The_Beast
05-22-2001, 04:33 PM
I think realistically MF can probably hit 95, if there is no wind and there is a lot of mass on the train and the wheels were just lubed. But really, can you tell the difference? What does 2-3 mph matter?

Billenium Force
05-22-2001, 04:53 PM
I'm not trying to incite anything, but it makes a difference to me.
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<BR>I'm tellin you folks, from the heart of a Sanduskian and 15 year CP pass-holder, Millenium Force breaks 100 mph.

HersheyGuy
05-22-2001, 04:55 PM
92mph. It might hit 94 on a good day. It is not physically possible for it to break 100mph.

Coasterfanatic1
05-22-2001, 07:16 PM
92 93 94 104, who really cares, at that speed when I rode it, it still a great rush...So who cares about the speed? When your going over 90+ mph, it starts feeling the same, the bugs just hit you faster...
<BR>Jeff

dingo65
05-22-2001, 07:43 PM
Its 93 mph

Billenium Force
05-23-2001, 12:08 AM
Whatever you want to think, it doesn't really matter.

ucdaap42
05-23-2001, 12:30 AM
Being a lifelong CP season pass holder, and an owner of a GPS unit, i can tell you very inaccurately that MF goes from 91-96 mph according to 10 readings i did over two days. I also want Billennium to teach me how to will the Force to go faster than the laws of physics will allow. I wanna know! Please share....ok, i'm joking, Just kidding Bill....hehe <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif"> I am serious about the GPS thing, though but the answer lies in the official readings by a company who i can't remember the name of, but recoreded Milennium Force's top speed at 93 mph. They tested over several days, throughout the day, in varying temps. and weather conditions.
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<BR>seth

Billenium Force
05-23-2001, 12:55 AM
Hehe, I enjoy this forum quite a bit.
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<BR>I have never seen these readings that you speak of, I do believe you, and I would like to see them.
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<BR>On matters of physics, you say that an object dropping from a height of 310 ft(or 295, irrelevant) can not build up the speed to go 100 mph. What you are forgetting to consider is that this calculation is for an object starting at rest. MF goes faster up the last quarter of the hill(I know, I've ridden over 20 times). Thus, this object(the train) is already traveling at a speed of roughly 15-20 mph, and therefore starts its acceleration from there.
<BR>I'm not a physicist, but I hope that explains my thinking. My thinking could be wrong.
<BR>This 100 mph factoid is what circulated the area when MF was first being tested, I happen to believe it.
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<BR>Has no one else heard what I have heard???
<BR>Oh yeah! Whats GPS?

magicmountainoverCP
05-23-2001, 01:08 AM
You don't mean GPS as in Global Position Satilite do you becasue how does that read speed? Also, I don't know if it breaks 100 or not but the theroy of traveling over the hill going 15-20 and then falling makes sence because I have noticed that at different times on different rides on the Force it seems to go faster and slower on the lift.

Rider
05-23-2001, 03:21 PM
At a physics day at CP, one guy who was talking said when they first tested it, MF got upto 115MPH. They had to change the type of wheels on the car to slow it down.

CoasterfanNE
05-23-2001, 03:32 PM
Conditions change with every run of MF. An accurate measurement would have to be take over a long period of time. Cool idea for Cedar Point might be to set up a radar or laser speed device on the fastest point on the ride and display the readings in the station.
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<BR>As for the GPS question, once a GPS unit has received signals from three satalites it can calculate speed.

VorTeX
05-23-2001, 03:42 PM
It would take an initial speed of much more than 15-20 MPH to get it up to 100 mph.
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<BR>And here's a little something to keep in mind: If it was going faster than 93 MPH, Cedar Point would be doing everything in their power to capitalize on that fact. Why would they hide it? That would just plain stupid.
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<BR>"Hey Bob, Millennium Force is going faster than 100 MPH, maybe we should tell some people?"
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<BR>"Dave, are you nuts? If they found out it's going that fast they'll be too scared to ride. A 300 foot tall drop reaching 93 miles per hour isn't enough to scare people, but 100 miles per hour would hurt our business!"
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<BR>"Huh, I never thought of it that way, Bob."
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<BR>"That's why you're in Marketing Dave."
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<BR>"Hey, but you're in Marketing too..."
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<BR>"But I'm a manager."
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<BR>"OK, I get it now Bob."
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<BR>"Good Dave."

RCTfreak
05-23-2001, 05:50 PM
On the first day it was open to the public I asked a worker how fast it went.
<BR>He said 93 but when it was first tested it was clocked at 103!

Billenium Force
05-23-2001, 09:07 PM
OK, thanks everybody, it is now clear that I am not the only one who's heard the 100mph thing.
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<BR>First off, Intamin's original calculations said it would go 93mph.(that was before it was built) But the ride ended up running at 103. CP didn't talk it up for the same reason Porsche doesn't talk up the GT2 or 911 turbo. If you ask Porsche, they'll tell you the GT2 does 0-60 in 4.0 seconds, but Road&Track tested it at 3.7 seconds. Same theory with MF. Manufacturers, or in this case parks, always give you specs that are a little modest.
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<BR>"I can't wait to ride MF Dave!!! It goes 93 mph!!!!!
<BR>"I heard it actually goes 103, Bob!!!!"
<BR>"Whoa!!!! now I'm even more excited, Dave!!!"
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<BR>As for the wheel thing, CP changed the wheels because they were on too tight, they would wear out after one or two times throught the track from intense friction. With looser wheels and a faster pull over the top, it goes a little faster than originally thought.

Coaster Fantom
05-23-2001, 09:18 PM
When Millenium Forces stats were posted (before it was built) they originally said that it would go 92 miles an hour. It ended up going 1 mph faster. 93 mph. I can't see it going over 100 mph. Thats just stupid.

VorTeX
05-23-2001, 09:25 PM
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<BR>OK, thanks everybody, it is now clear that I am not the only one who's heard the 100mph thing.
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<BR>No this dumb rumor has spread far and wide. A lot of people have heard that magnum is sinking too <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_razz.gif">
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<BR>First off, Intamin's original calculations said it would go 93mph.(that was before it was built)
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<BR>Wrong. The specs before building (and even afterwards until they finally went on a day and clocked it) were 92 mph.
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<BR>Here's a link to the stats as they were before officially measured:
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<BR> But the ride ended up running at 103.
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<BR>I cannot stress enough the physical impossibility of this. I don't care what wheels they have on it or even if it was going over the hill at 30 mph. If you do the math, it's not possible for this to happen in a frictionless, air-resistanceless world... let alone our own.
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<BR>"I can't wait to ride MF Dave!!! It goes 93 mph!!!!!
<BR>"I heard it actually goes 103, Bob!!!!"
<BR>"Whoa!!!! now I'm even more excited, Dave!!!"
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<BR>That's EXACTLY my point. And when you've got new, big competition from SFWOA, PKI, etc. you're going to tell people anything you can to make them want to come to your park more.
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<BR>As for the wheel thing, CP changed the wheels because they were on too tight, they would wear out after one or two times throught the track from intense friction. With looser wheels and a faster pull over the top, it goes a little faster than originally thought.
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<BR>No, they were not "loosening" them, they were trying different wheel "ingredients" to find what wouldn't burn out so fast. I believe they setlled on a certain type of nylon wheel, but I'm not certain. And just to tell you since I've been on the ride both when its accelerated and when it hasn't (it usually doesn't these days), it only accelerates once the other car has come off of the brake block and even then it only reaches its "normal" speed (i.e. the speed it goes up if there is no speeding up).

Billenium Force
05-23-2001, 09:34 PM
Why is that stupid?
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<BR>It makes perfect sense.
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<BR>Everything else aside, do you people NOT want it to go that fast??? You believed it went 1 mph faster, why won't you believe(with good reasoning I might add) that it goes 10 mph faster?

swOHman
05-23-2001, 11:01 PM
On another message board about 6 months ago someone calculated the speed the lift would have to go to make the top speed at 100 MPH. The lift speed has to be 35 MPH just to make it go 100, to go 104 like has been stated it would have to go around 37-39 MPH. It is a known fact that the lift speed ALL THE WAY UP the hill on MF is 13 MPH, therefore MF does not and has never gone over 100 MPH. If it ever went 100 MPH I'm sure record jealouse CP would milk it for all it's worth.

Rider
05-23-2001, 11:20 PM
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<BR>And here's a little something to keep in mind: If it was going faster than 93 MPH, Cedar Point would be doing everything in their power to capitalize on that fact. Why would they hide it? That would just plain stupid.
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<BR>Contiuning mine, when CP tested MF with dummies they found that flys where getting embeded into the dummies.
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<BR>That is what they said. Not me.

Ohiolover
05-24-2001, 01:13 AM
Come on now...engineers don't make 7 mph mistakes. If they did, I wouldn't be riding any roller coasters. And CP DEFINATELY would be advertising 100 mph speeds.(Aren't they the ones arguing with SFMM over the technicality of Superman?)
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<BR>Oh yeah...and MF only speeds up on the lift hill when there are three trains on. I've riden it when there were only 2 and it didn't do this. I'm sure that there is a variance of speeds due to peoples weight, temperature, speed of lift, ect..., but it was clocked at 93 mph max. That's what they said in there commercials, that's what went down in the record books.

VorTeX
05-24-2001, 12:49 PM
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<BR>Why is that stupid?
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<BR>It makes perfect sense.
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<BR>Not if you have any grasp of the physics involved... then it makes no sense whatsoever.
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<BR>Everything else aside, do you people NOT want it to go that fast???
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<BR>We'd love it if it did... but it doesn't because it's physically impossible. Period. Enf of story. Believe me, if there was any shred of truth to this, I would be trumpeting it from the highest mountains. But as it stands it does no good to spread false rumors and speculate on things that are impossible.
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<BR>You believed it went 1 mph faster, why won't you believe(with good reasoning I might add) that it goes 10 mph faster?
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<BR>Because 1 mph faster was well within even expected physical possibility... 10 mph would require a rewrite of the laws of physics.

CPFanatic
05-24-2001, 01:18 PM
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<BR>Wrong. The specs before building (and even afterwards until they finally went on a day and clocked it) were 92 mph.
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<BR>Here's a link to the stats as they were before officially measured:
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<BR>I am confused... when you go to this link it says 93mph??????????
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VorTeX
05-24-2001, 06:27 PM
look inside the table itself
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<BR>It says approximately 92 mph
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<BR>That's what it said before the official measurement (thus the approximately)

arlok2
05-24-2001, 07:51 PM
this is very stupid. cp being cp would be milking it no doubt. my cousin rode the ride and she was sure that it did not go onehundred when i asked her so be quit!

RCTfreak
05-28-2001, 09:42 AM
Actully what acured was when it was first tested it was at 103
<BR>they added small brakes on the drop and slowwed down the lift speed there for it is 93.
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murchison1
05-28-2001, 12:14 PM
Millenium Force normall goes 92 miles per hour, but on a good day could be clocked at 93 or 94 miles per hour. 100 m.p.h. is simply a myth.

Rider
05-28-2001, 12:36 PM
It is possible that the lift was MUCH faster in testing. They then slowed it down for safty. So, it may have hit over 100 at some point. But its offical and regular speed is 93.

MForce2k
06-16-2001, 10:17 PM
even contridicting my earlier statement, I just talked to an employee @ cedar point and they said that, as much as I hate to admit it, it IS 92mph. If it was anymore the brakes would wear down too quickly and if anything would happen to the speed, it would go down.

Aaron
11-11-2001, 03:41 PM
Our teacher in physics class was talking about this. It depends on a myriad of factors, weight of the car, the weather, how slippery the track is, there's a lot that comes in to play. But the average speed for Millenium Force is around 92, 93 miles per hour.

The NBo/c
11-11-2001, 04:09 PM
SD2K is only 8ft higher (the drop) and 2mph faster

But MF is steeper and has a lift way faster, so i believe that it can reach 100mph...

gravitron
11-11-2001, 04:17 PM
You guys can think whatever you want to think. The facts are 92-93 ish. thats pretty much it. If u wann think 100 go ahead. if it did go 100 they would advertise 100 mph coaster . Cedar point is like that

Ta2KX
11-11-2001, 06:19 PM
it was intended to hit 92 according to its press releases back in 99. After it was broken in it was recorded to average 93 and thats what the banners by the rides queue say.

Marc
11-11-2001, 07:00 PM
even if it goes 100 mph, it only mantains that speed for a fraction of a second. I've drove way faster in a car and sustained it too.

ForceCoaster
11-11-2001, 07:09 PM
93

raser
11-11-2001, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by GigaForce310
even if it goes 100 mph, it only mantains that speed for a fraction of a second. I've drove way faster in a car and sustained it too.
Wow! I'm impressed you can get a car over 100 mph thats against the laws of physics! Really thats not a big accomplishment also its a little different in a car and an open coaster train with no or virtually no sides. The smaller the vessel you are in the more exciting a speed could feel

pyro
11-11-2001, 08:29 PM
when my cousin's physics class went to CP they clocked it in the mid to high 90's, i don't think 100mph is way out of the question when you look at how many variables there are.

APJSFR1
11-11-2001, 08:48 PM
I was told it was 93, and I still believe it.

Marc
11-11-2001, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by raser

Wow! I'm impressed you can get a car over 100 mph thats against the laws of physics! Really thats not a big accomplishment also its a little different in a car and an open coaster train with no or virtually no sides. The smaller the vessel you are in the more exciting a speed could feel

Are you saying, that burying the needle in a sports car isn't intense? When I get over 130, my heart starts to pound hard.

CrystalKat
11-11-2001, 09:17 PM
Trust me, my husband is an Advanced Placement physics teacher, and there is no way that Millennium Force could reach 100 mph, no matter what the conditions where. Cedar Point records the highest speed at 93 mph, and that's what's advertised -- yes, if it did hit 100 mph, they'd be sure to tell everyone -- what a selling point! True, there may be extreme cases when the coaster goes even above 93, but about 95-96 would be the absolute highest it could hit (under the extremest of circumstances) unless you dropped it from the top of the lift hill NOT on the track. There's no chance of it reaching 100 mph.

KoasterKing
11-11-2001, 09:29 PM
why do you all really care if it travels 100 mph or not it dosnt so stop complaining over it!mlol not to be mean

Chris L
11-12-2001, 04:29 AM
This has got to be the dryest topic I have ever come across, now that it has grown so large. So what is the point of arguing the speed? It's concretely IMPOSSIBLE for the ride to achieve a maximum velocity of 100+ mph, knowing the elements involved in achieving a ride's speed. There are just some arrogant people who have to know for sure that the damn thing goes 100 mph. Why is it such a big deal? For some, just breaking the 90 mark is impressive enough...

CoasterCrazy
11-12-2001, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by RCTfreak
Actully what acured was when it was first tested it was at 103
<BR>they added small brakes on the drop and slowwed down the lift speed there for it is 93.
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You could be being sarcastic, but do you honestly believe this?

oramonster
11-12-2001, 03:27 PM
The top speed was measured by Stalker Radar of Texas. Their reading was 93mph. I'd link to the entry in the almanac that has that, but magnumdan's site is undergoing upgrades.
-seth

RagingBull#1
11-12-2001, 06:04 PM
ill go what i saw in the park, 93

MountainMan
11-12-2001, 06:30 PM
My Shirt Says 92

coastergenius100
11-12-2001, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by Billenium Force
AAAHHHHHH my friends you are all quite wrong. But that is simply because you do not know the whole story. MF was calculated to go 92 mph before it was built, however, it turned out to be too slow during testing. That is, it had problems creating enough momentum to get up the second hill(after the the 122-degree banked turn). Therefore, the trains are taken over the top of the hill a little faster. Anyone who has ridden it remembers how the train speeded up near the top of the hill. MF now reaches speeds a shade over 100mph. 104 is the fastest I've heard. All the insiders say it is definitely above 100.
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<BR>Have fun riding it!!


It would have to go pretty darn fast at the top to cancel out the coefficient of friction, so I highly doubt this.

CPFan
11-12-2001, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by Melissa
Trust me, my husband is an Advanced Placement physics teacher, and there is no way that Millennium Force could reach 100 mph, no matter what the conditions where. Cedar Point records the highest speed at 93 mph, and that's what's advertised -- yes, if it did hit 100 mph, they'd be sure to tell everyone -- what a selling point! True, there may be extreme cases when the coaster goes even above 93, but about 95-96 would be the absolute highest it could hit (under the extremest of circumstances) unless you dropped it from the top of the lift hill NOT on the track. There's no chance of it reaching 100 mph.


There, it is said, I was gonna post something just like this, but since you posted this, you saved me a lot of time, thanks Melissa.

garik_law
11-13-2001, 03:18 PM
Well, I have done the actual calcutlations for the drop and I came up with the top speed (in an ideal environment) to be 97 mph. Thus I can say that it is impossible to go at that speed or above. I do believe that with more weight (my people were 180 pounds each........a standard for roller coaster designers) it could go faster than 95 or so mph. But, I still think 92-94 is the average speed.

Shadow248
11-14-2001, 12:16 AM
Are you people crazy?!?! I can't understand how any of you could have gotten these numbers?! Have you done tests on each of MF's wheels to determine friction coefficients? What about temperature variations' effects on the wheel compounds? They have been using several different types of wheels since the coaster was built...and they all have slightly different effects. So how do you account for this? What about humidity's effect on the train's "shock cone"? This is not advanced physics...it's pretty much impossible to calculate without a working computer model!

Could MF hit 100mph? I firmly believe it could...and it probably has...but i can't say that for sure and there is no way i can prove it without alot of research...there are just too many variables in the real world. If you really want to find out...go out on Point road...stand at the base of the lift...and point a radar gun at the train when it's at the base of the drop. That's about the only way you're gonna get any kind of relatively accurate info.

pyro
11-14-2001, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by MountainMan
My Shirt Says 92

I also have a shirt that says 92, but i think newer shirts say 93