now that i am able to post once again. ;-)

I believe the Taliban is preparing for a guerilla war from the mountains in all of their tunnels and caves, launching sneak attacks and rushing back to them. These terrorists are very smart. Entrances to the system of tunnels are at right angles, rendering cruise missles useless. There are bunkers down there with their own power plants! There are tunnels built next to underground rivers for water also. These bunkers are thousands of feet down into the mountains, rendering our biggest bunker-busting bombs useless. Even if a atom bomb was dropped, it is so far down that the explosion and radiation wouldnt reach. To defeat the 'cowards in the caves' we must get the help of Afghans to take us to entrances and ventalation shafts. With access to the ventalation shafts we actually could "smoke them out of their holes" or better yet, knock them out and take them back home to the USA where they can have a trail. (Who says the gas can't kill a few for the gipper anyway)

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the taliban is dead and gone. totally wiped out in a few days, and they are not coming back. the only thing left to do it take out al qeda. we killed bin laden's number two guy in a bombing as well as dozens of al qeda army cheifs. it was said that the number 2 guy is usually the brains for all the terrorist attacks. it is only time before we get bin laden himself.

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agreed. i think we're fooling ourselves if we think that the taliban were wiped out this easily. with little or no resistance in taking the major cities, its becoming painfully clear that the taliban will launch guerilla war-like attacks from their hiding places in the caves. and since the so-called northern 'alliance' is only a loosely-tied together band of competing groups, they don't have the ability to stop it themselves. even with us special forces assisting, the picture may be rather grim.

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not really. our bombing killed the talibans troops. why do you think they aren;t fighting. we killed tousands of them. others defected to the northern alliances side. there is none of them left

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antfarm, how do you know about these caves? They are simply rumors. If they do try and use Guerilla attacks...we will just kill them.

Antfarm is correct about the caves. I'm not sure about water sources or power plants, but there are extensive underground complexes in the Adghan mountains, which do extend thousands of feet below the surface.

Also, the Taliban hasn't been completely wiped out. Removed from governmant and severly depleted yes, but I'm sure there will be enough of them left to resume a guerilla war. That's what every other losing army has done in that region for the last 25 years!

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yes but every other losing army isnt the most dominant country in the history of the world. the truth is that with our help, the taliban was ousted in a week. if our forces really went in there we would have done it in a matter of days.

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Yeah, there are caves, but if they can't come out, then they can't gather food, and water resources will soon run out so they'll be under siege and they'll all die of hunger and starvation.

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No outside force has conquered Afghanistan since Alexander the great. The Taliban hasn't been wiped out, they've only been severely downsized, but even if you look in the newspaper this stuff in the caves is amazing. Entrances are at right angles so cruise missles are useless and at the end of teh right angle there are turrets dug into the caves (I saw this on abc a month or so ago) The caves are thousands of feet into the mountains and it was claimed that the bunkers could support thousands.

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its called bunker buster bomb and the taliban army is almost wiped out

another thing, america is more dominant than alexander the great ever was

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The bunker busters can't go down that far kid!
the Soviets couldn't do it (they <u>were </u> more powerful than us>
We think we have defeated the Taliban, but we will see as they start their guerilla warfare and we pull out. We think we have won, but we have only just begun...

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i agree that the Taliban are far from wiped out, but much has been made of the resiliancy of Afghanis when there isn't much to it. Did they keep the Soviets at bay? Yes. But the U.S. was giving them detailed intelligence info on how and where to hit the Soviets. Of course, this made a huge difference.

In any event, the Taliban are still aroung, they're just more fractured and disorganized than ever before. Of course, this will actually make them harder to wipe out.

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the soviets stronger than america, that is why they won the cold war right. and after that was over their country went down the tubes and ours kept on growing lightyears ahead of everyone. the soviets stronger than us ha. we will see an apache take out 20 soviet tanks in 16 second and see who is stronger. the fact is that america is so much stronger than the rest of the world that it isn't even funny. when someone attacks us these days they have to hide b/c were coming for em and they have nothing to do about it. and another fact is that WE DID what the soviets couldn't do in 10 years in a matter of about a month and a half. who is stonger now. you keep telling us all oh wait and see they are all in mountains ready to attack and it hasn't happened and it won't. this is because americas far superior bombing to the soviets took care of that.

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The Soviets lost because of poor leadership, low morale, and a failure to invest in consumer goods instead of heavy industry. They <u>did</u> have a more powerful army than us and the downfall was when weak leaders took over, with a strong leader like Lenin or Stalin, the Soviet Union would still be a very large threat. If the Soviets had the money, they would be the super power, but their investing in only heavy industry and not consumer products fried them. America did beat the Soviets eventually, but has failed to learn that friendship ends when the money runs out...

before anyone says anything, Stalin, Lenin, and even Hitler were some of the greatest leaders ever (I don't admire them or anything though)

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The fact is that America is Way stronger than any country or anything in history. If we wanted to we could take over the world and no one could say anything about it. but we are nice and not mean so we wont. A predator killed Osamas number two man. An unmaned vehicle we are talking about here. we have so much technology that no one can handle us. The soviets army was stronger than ours WHY, give me a reason i will give you some of mine.
F22 Raptor
B 2 bomber
U2
Apache helicopter
Smart bomb
UAV
Predator
Most advanced night vision by far
Heat sensors
the list goes on and on and the fact is that america right now rules the world. The soviets lost b/c of bad leadership, no, the soviets lost because we were so much better than them. and then lets talk about what happend after the war AMERICA had the power to split up germany and split up the devistated soviet union i dont see the russians coming over here and making texas its own country b/c they said so do i? no why you ask because we are light years ahead of the world.

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two things:

one, your argument is self-defeating. Their army wasn't more powerful during the cold war BECAUSE of the lack of strong leadership, cohesion, and morale. I'm not quite sure what you're measuring to determine 'power,' anyways. size? technology? mobility?

second, how was hitler a great leader? i'll grant that he had the amazing ability to rise to power in germany, but given the socio-economic conditions at the time, some argue it could have been anyone. beyond this, he pretty much ultimately failed at every objective he set forth. sure, his army had sweeping early successes, but much of that was due to appeasement. the man didn't have a military strategy to speak of. he was blinded by hate and conquest, which is why he made the critical error of fighting on both fronts at once. a great leader he wasn't.

though i agree with you on lenin and (particularly) stalin.

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Boy, this has to be one of the most arrogant posts I've ever read! I'm not even going to comment on the US taking over the world bit; even if they tried, all the other armies would band together and trounce them!

Singularly, the US does have the best army resources at it's disposal, and this does reflect it's position as the most powerful country in the world. However, it is not true to say that the USA rules the world - I don't remember voting for any Americans in the last General Election in the UK. As for all the hardware that you listed - what do you think other countries possess - rusting hulks of planes and submarines and plastic 3D glasses?

Finally, the SAS and SBS from the UK are stationed in Afghanistan at the moment because the USA asked for them to be there. This is because they knew that these two groups are the best in the world in their particular areas of expertise. A good piece of sensible judgement from the US, whic presumably wouldn't have happened if you had been in charge.

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I have a feeling theese post are doing some wrong for us, But I think that george bushes quote " your on our side, or your the enemy" ( or somthing else) is totally redicoulius! O yea, Mexico doesnt allie with us, were gonna bomb them too.............

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yes i agree, america may be the most powerfull country, but it is also the most vunrable.

Have u heard about that guy that joined the taliban...yea..he lives like 20 mins away from me.......Im lockin my doors at night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Okay i got carried away sorry. I will agree with Andy that the UK has some really good troops. But the US is still number one with England second and the Israel third. And its kind of funny b/c all three are really good allies.

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Also, Antfarm was right, the Taliban is staging a killer attack¿ That will be the day

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Thanks for the humility - it's becoming a bit of a rarity on parts of the boards!

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In no ways am I saying that the Taliban is going to obliberate us, I'm just saying its likely the Taliban is just going to move into the mountains

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oh yea you were just saying that they were going into the mountains...

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man. that must be scary