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Old 10-30-2001, 01:33 PM
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Nukes in Afghanistan?

I was flipping through the channels when I came across a local channel that was discussing nukes being used in Afganistan. I decided to watch the show. And what I heard astonished me. Russian presidend Putin has agreed with Bush to alter the anti balistic missile treaty(pact? I don't know what it's called) to allow Bush to build his missile defence screen.

But it will also be altered to allow the use of tacticle nuclear warheads. While these missiles are no where near the power of the bombs dropped on Japan in WWII, they still pack a punch. These missiles would mostly be used to blow caves to smitherines, not on open troops or buildings.

But still, they're nuclear bombs!! If this happens it will say to everyone with nukes that it's ok to use them!

What are your thoughts?
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Old 10-30-2001, 02:42 PM
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If this happens, it'll be very very bad. We absolutely cannot use nuclear weapons unless we ant to destory everything we're fighting for.
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Old 10-30-2001, 02:57 PM
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I agree, nukes should not be used. they should only be our very last line of defense, and we are very far from that.
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Old 10-30-2001, 04:22 PM
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What you guys don't understand is that Russia has ALWAYS had the ability to use Nuclear Weapons. This isn't a new development, and the danger isn't any greater. This will not have tell the world "it is ok to use Nuclear weapons", as the treaty is relativly new.

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NUKES SHOULD NOT BE AN OPTION. EVERYONE IN THE WORLD NEEDS TO ERASE THIS IDEA FROM THEIR HEADS. NUKES ARE THE EASY WAY OUT AND EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THE EASY WAY ENDS UP BEING THE BAD WAY IN THE END.



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Old 10-30-2001, 06:22 PM
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This is how the news guy put it: (this is not an exact quote) "This is an option the US is exploring to destroy caves where Al Qaeda members, including bin Laden might be hiding. If conventional bombs were used, they would only do so much damage, but a small nuke could take out the entire area. If we sent in troops, there is a good chance the caves are booby trapped, and several soldiers would die without firing a shot."

I agree, but still....Nukes?
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Old 10-30-2001, 06:30 PM
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One of my great fears is someone dropping a nuke on NYC. If a nuclear bomb is dropped on NYC, I die instantly. The chances of it happening are slim, but hey, if you told me in August that the Twin Towers wouldn't be here in a month I'd laugh in your face.
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Old 10-30-2001, 07:34 PM
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Yeah, but it's not likely for a nuclear bomb to be dropped on the U.S. Afghanistan does not have nuclear capability even. If a plane was headed for a U.S. hopefully we'd be able to shoot it down before it got here. But it probably won't happen.
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Old 10-30-2001, 10:44 PM
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This would be a bad plan, but not a surprising one. It would depend on the fallout zone and exactly what this would accomplish in terms of ending the conflict entirely -- though I don't think it would, it would just heighten the actions at hand, since terrorism isn't something you can ever be sure has been eliminated.

Interesting, however, that the United States is the only country in the world to have instigated nuclear war.
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Old 10-30-2001, 11:53 PM
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I dont think they mean the nuke u guys r thinkin of. They already have the capability to use these things...I dont think they do that much damage.
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Old 10-31-2001, 12:23 AM
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Right. These nukes are very weak, but still much more powerfull than the 4,000 lb "Bunker Buster" bombs. They also have little amounts of radiation.
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Old 10-31-2001, 02:38 AM
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If they use very weak nukes and are very careful with where they place them, then maybe one or two would be fine, but if they get out of hand with them to the point of where they don't give any warning and wind up hurting too many innocent civilians, then no chance. This is something they'd have to be EXTREMELY careful with though, not something for them to take lightly.
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Old 10-31-2001, 12:33 PM
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Nuclear weapons should NEVER be an option. Assuming that one is used, the Moslem world would (rightly or wrongly) see it as an attack on their religion and I'm pretty sure that at least one of their terrorist organisations, perhaps even Al Queda, would have access to their own nuclear weapons. We'd all be history.
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Old 10-31-2001, 02:29 PM
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there's seems to be (in my opinion)a staggering overreaction in this thread to the use of nuclear weapons. utilizing a few tactical nukes is indeed a dangerous and serious decision to make, but it certainly doesn't spell doom for the world. it would be a surprising escalation (and highly controversial) but it wouldn't bring about armageddon. if a terrorist organization has posession of a nuclear warhead (which is possible and indeed likely) they will use it whether we use nukes or not, so long as they can overcome the delivery problem. in any event, we won't use them unless there's no other option b/c of the negative reaction that the world's countries would have. but it wouldn't be the end of the world if we did, either.
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Old 10-31-2001, 07:15 PM
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Considering how people think of any Nukes, people would probably panic. They wouldn't really understand the context. That is why Nukes are not good here.

But Melissa? The U.S. instigating Nuclear War? If I recall, some country bombed some base in Hawaii...
 

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