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Old 01-18-2002, 07:37 PM
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Smile Bin Laden may be dead!!!!

He might had died of kidney failure!!!!!!!!!
http://dailynews.netscape.com/mynsne...81356000105925
Hope its true.

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geez i hope thats true.
that would make my month. literally.
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Old 01-18-2002, 09:13 PM
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All's i heard is that he was "suffering" from Kidney Failure.
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Old 01-18-2002, 11:16 PM
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1. This belongs in attack of america
2. This is a repeat
3. That would suck because if the US doesnt capture him, then well probably never know
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i really hope hes dead
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Old 01-19-2002, 12:44 AM
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Moving to Attack on America...

Does it really make any difference anyway? The damage has been done, and we've already made fools of ourselves...
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Old 01-19-2002, 10:46 AM
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and we've already made fools of ourselves...
What is that supposted to mean?
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Old 01-19-2002, 11:11 AM
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maybe she means cause we've killed thousands of innocent afghani people ( when bombing) on accident.possibly more then the number killed in the WTC.
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Old 01-19-2002, 02:17 PM
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Exactly. There are dozens of nations that are protesting the United States' actions right now, because we seem on a personal vendetta bent not on justice, but on revenge. In my opinion (and only my opinion), that makes us no better than the individuals that started this in the first place. Absolultely, if we knew where they are (which we do not), we should seek justice. But revenge? What's the point? Will it bring back the thousands of lives lost that day, or rebuild the towers? Will it take those images out of our minds? Or will it make us terrorists to other countries?

Remember, mooses41, we're all entitled to our own opinions, and please, let's keep the profanity outside, shall we? Thanks!
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Old 01-19-2002, 03:09 PM
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I wouldn't go as far as to say that the USA has made a fool of itself. It didn't do itself any favours with things like bombing Red Cross shelters and dropping food parcels containing peanut butter and jam, with instructions written in English and Spanish. They were obviously well-intentioned, but those actions did give opponents of the bombing plenty of ammunition of their own. Also of course, the Taliban were destroyed, so hopefully now the people there can one day return to a reasonably normal semblance of living.

The question is at what cost has this been achieved. Sections of media coverage here in England are beginning to seriously question what bombing the hell out of Afghanistan will actually achieve in the long term. Sure, it'll satisfy the short-term need for action, and the need of the US government to be seen to be doing something, but to suggest that anything will be solved long-term simply by the bombing is laughable. Even if Bin-Laden is captured/dead, there are 1000 members of his organisation willing to replace him, and die for their cause.

The USA needs to change it's foreign policy in the Middle East, stop acting like a global bully (which like it or not is how it is seen in many countries), and try to be less insular and realise the world extends beyond the 50 states.
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I hope he's not dead.

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Melissa-
Would you rather have the US just sit back and take no military action? Oh yeah, that would have been great. No innocent Afgans would have died. Yeah!!
... but wait, what message would that send the terrorists whose very intention was to kill innocent people. If we would have just bombed the Taliban and left, what would they have thought?
They would have then assumed that they could terrorize the rest of the world without punishment, because, hey, they got away with killing thousands of innocent people in the most powerful country in the world, why can't they do it everywhere?
So, should we sit back and cry about the thousands of Afgans who we killed? Yes, that will do us alot of good. Instead we should dwell on the fact that we took out one of the world's evilest governments. Also, and being a female yourself this should have even more signifigance for you, we should consider every single woman who can now live a decent life in their country thanks to the US removing the Taliban. Now, it doesn't look so bad if we consider every woman in Afganistan a life gained, as their life a year ago could hardly be called a life. Please consider this when you say that the US made a fool of itself and that they are acting simply on revenge, not justice.
Would it be just to simply let the terrorists live freely and gain even more support? Would it be just to allow them to claim that their "mission" was a success? This would simply show that we are afraid of them. So before you fly your anti war flag, think about what would happen if we hadn't began the military campaign in the Middle East.
Would there probably be a few thousand more innocent Afgans alive? yes
but..
Would there tens of thousands of women there living a life tens of thousands of times better than they had a year ago? Most defidently not.
Would the Taliban still be controlling Afganistan? yes
Would Osamo Bin Laden have even more supporters than he had a year ago? yes
Would the Al Quedia (sp?) terrorist network try to kill even more than they did on 9-11? yes

and I'm sorry if I offended you by using profanity (which i edited myself).

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Andy- The fact is that the United States has the most accurate military technology available. Mistakes happen. And as far as the food labels, it seems a little foolish on your part to let that mistake overshadow the fact that they did indeed drop a large amount of food for the people there.
Once again, to answer the question of what has been achieved, the fact that terrorists can't truly say that their killing was succesful was achieved, and because of this they can't slaughter innocent lives again wothout knowing that their entire country will be wiped out. This will obviously lower the number of innocent lives lost, though it will not be considered by anti war people who will cry about the innocent Afgans killed. And, as mentioned earlier, tens ( probably hundreds) of thousands of women in Afganistan can now live a real human life.
So please consider this as you call the United States a global bully, because what the US has done is saved millions of innocent people all around the world who would be killed in future terrorist attacks had we not bombed Afganitan.
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Old 01-19-2002, 04:31 PM
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I agree with you mooses41. I think these attacks are very necessary and I think we should have attacked them after the embassey bombings becouse then mayby there would be no 9/11 attacks. We have to fight against evil and protect ourselves. If we dont they we are open to be attacked again and again, untill our country is destroyed.
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Old 01-19-2002, 06:24 PM
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I agree with moose that the bombing had to occur, and I also agree with Andy, who usually shares my viewpoints. The USA is viewed as a bully around the world, and we do need to change our foriegn policy and show that we will not stand for Israel killing Palestinians/Palestinians killing Israelis. We need to change our foreign policy, and with war happy officials in office, I doubt we will, but you should also know that war is a vital part of the world economy...
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