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What do you think is the best war movie ever?? War movies always stick out as the biggest money makers.....or in some cases(Pearl Harbor) big money losers. What do you think is probably the greatest war movie you've ever seen. Im a real war movie fanatic and my pick would have to be none other than ...................Saving Private Ryan. SO what is you fav war movie.
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Black Hawk Down, the best, no big stars, no big directors to thrive off of, no love story, the best.
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Technically Mister Roberts is, although features no fighting.That would be my favorite if you were to consider it one. Otherwise, Guns of Navarone I suppose.
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Old 03-12-2002, 08:59 PM
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Patton was always my favorite. It wasnt as gory as Saving Private Ryan, but you could still sense the intensity of war and wat really goes on in training and during the war and the officers you have to deal with.
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Old 03-12-2002, 09:13 PM
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Frankly, I'm not into war movies all that much -- too much glorification of causes that at least half the participants disagree with. But to choose, I'd say Braveheart -- not an American war, certainly, but a superbly done movie with a generous historical accuracy considering the time period at hand. The book is better, though. :)
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"The Longest Day"

I've always been a big John Wayne fan so I'll have to say "The Longest Day". "Patton" is another one of my favorites.
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Old 03-12-2002, 09:46 PM
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Bridge on the River Kwai

Of course I'll also say Apocalypse Now, but that seems like so, so much more than a war movie.
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Gettysburg is the best movie, its sorta long, but the greatest with Martin Sheen as Robert E. Lee, and realistic too.
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Old 03-12-2002, 09:54 PM
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I would definately have to say "The Great Escape" with Steve McQueen. That is a great movie with great acting. Definitely my pick.
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HBO's Band of Brothers is the best World War II movie ever. However, it is a ten-hour-long miniseries, so I don't know if that counts for this topic.

Other than that, The Thin Red Line. It shows the realistic conditions of men at war, but it doesn't do it in a way where you see a pile of intestines lying next to a guy and say, "well damn, that's realistic." Also, every single one of the main characters, who were mostly played by big-name actors such as Nick Nolte, Jim Caviezel (though he wasn't big yet), John Cusack, Woody Harrelson, Sean Penn, Elias Koteas, Ben Chaplin and others were able to rise out of their other roles, so you don't see them as other characters they've played in other movies, only their character in this one (which is the advantage of hiring mostly currently no-name actors like Band of Brothers did). Acting was superb, cinematography, the location, everything. The plot follows a company through the Battle of Guadalcanal in their struggle to capture first Hill 210 and then other hills, nothing else. It allows you to see what the war was like without having to focus too much on a story.

And don't compare it to Saving Private Ryan. Just because it came out the same year does not mean it is anything like Saving Private Ryan. Both are fantastic movies (TTRL is better, though) that are good in their own ways. Saving Private Ryan's opening D-Day sequence is nothing short of amazing, but after that first half hour it loses everything. TTRL never loses a thing. People think that just because TTRL came out a few weeks after SPR and because Spielberg directed SPR, it is a "ripoff" of SPR, even though they were both in production at the same time and except that they both deal with WW2 (different theaters of WW2, at that), they are not the same at all. And how can TTRL be a "ripoff" of SPR when it was written almost 40 years before SPR? Yes, TTRL was a novel written by James Jones, author of From Here To Eternity, and it is an amazing book and I suggest you read it.

Sorry for that. I like war movies.

Other good ones:
Braveheart, obviously. As good as you can get with realistic medieval combat -- although the Battle of Stirling in the movie is quite different than the Battle of Stirling which took place in real life. In the movie Wallace used long spears to kill the English cavalry as it charged, but in reality no such thing happened. And in reality, the English cavalry and infantry had to advance over a bridge to get to the rebels, and in the movie there was no bridge. But there was a budget. It makes the movie no less amazing.

Black Hawk Down portrayed extremely realistic modern combat but that's all it portrayed. Except for the first part before they went into the town, the whole damn movie is a long battle. I love battle scenes but BHD took it too far. You can't just have a giant battle for the movie. You need other stuff. And while BHD had a good (and true) plot, it just became annoying after a while. Still good, though.

Platoon. Just an extremely good movie. I'm getting tired so I'm gonna end it here, but that's all you really have to say about Platoon. Extremely good. Again, portrayed realistic combat, this time in the Vietnam setting. My favorite of all the big mid-to-late 1980s Vietnam movies (which also include Full Metal Jacket, Hamburger Hill, and Casualties of War). Also, Tigerland is a good Vietnam-related movie.
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Shut my mouth, I totally forgot about <U>Glory</U>. I show that movie to my American History classes (rated R and everything - bring your permission slip because I'm not going to be sued for your sake...), and it's a marvelous Civil War rendition of the Massachusetts 54th black regiment. Definately illustrates the prejudice and discrimination, with superb acting throughout, and also shows that the good guys don't always prevail! Excellent score as well, and I have the soundtrack too.
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war movies, ahh yes one of the very best genres out there..
im not sure if i can take it down to 1 or even a few as a matter of fact, but i guess ill try.....

okay nm... ill sort by wars

French-Indian War-Last of the Mohicans

Revolutionary-The Patriot

Civil War-Glory

WWI- All Quiet on the Western Front (both versions)

WWII- Saving Private Ryan, Thin Red Line, The Longest Day, Stalag 17

Vietnam- Platoon, Apocalypse Now

Gulf War-Present - Three Kings, Black Hawk Down

The there are all the movies that ivolve war but dont take place entirely in the war- Forrest Gump, Its a Wonderful Life, Swing Kids, the list could go on....
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The origional version of All Quiet on the Western Front comes in at first for me, second is Platoon, and third is Saving Private Ryan. Those are my top 3.
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Saving Private Ryan was the best war movie ive ever seen. i also liked full metal jacket.
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I also have another question for you guys, what war do you think has the best war movies for it?? I will again have to go with WW2.
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Old 03-13-2002, 02:38 PM
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I'd have to say platoon. I like it just b/c my dad was in vietnam and I get a chance to see what it was actually like there, but I'm not really a war movie fan. I really don't like the movies where something really did happen just b/c you can't say "o it's just a movie" b/c that did happen. Just my thoughts
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Saving Private Ryan is the best war movie, it was the only movie that when i left no one spoke a word
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Melissa [/i]
[B]Shut my mouth, I totally forgot about <U>Glory</U>. I show that movie to my American History classes (rated R and everything - bring your permission slip because I'm not going to be sued for your sake...), and it's a marvelous Civil War rendition of the Massachusetts 54th black regiment. Definately illustrates the prejudice and discrimination, with superb acting throughout, and also shows that the good guys don't always prevail! Excellent score as well, and I have the soundtrack too. [/B][/QUOTE]

Glory is a pretty good movie... a good tribute to the MA54th, but unfortunately I believe that Matthew Broderick is a horrible actor and he ruined it. He is not convincing as an army officer, and neither really is Cary Elwes, although he is better than Broderick. Denzel Washington is excellent and Morgan Freeman, as always, is flawless. A good movie, though I think Gettysburg is a better Civil War movie.
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Blackhawk Down captured the intensity of battle, but it it left me feeling rather numb. It was more documentary than classic movie.

I liked "Bridge on the River Kwai", "All Quiet On The Western Front", "Tigerland", and "Gettysburg" although Gettysburg had THE WORST make-up (i.e. false beards & mustaches).
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Saving Private Ryan.
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I'd go with the Civil War,cause it happened right here and is great with the movies Glory and Gettysburg.
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Enemy At the Gates is a great war movie. So is Saving Private Ryan. So is The Patriot(Mel Gibson one). Pearl Harbor wasn't bad, it just stretched out too far. Pearl Harbor itself was really only in the movie about half the time. I think We Were Soldiers and Black Hawk Down look good, but I haven't seen either of those yet.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Inferno [/i]
[B]Enemy At the Gates is a great war movie. So is Saving Private Ryan. So is The Patriot(Mel Gibson one). Pearl Harbor wasn't bad, it just stretched out too far. Pearl Harbor itself was really only in the movie about half the time. I think We Were Soldiers and Black Hawk Down look good, but I haven't seen either of those yet. [/B][/QUOTE]

I have rather negative feeling about The Patroit though. It's a good example of a big budget movie going bad, with a megastar, a big stick director and then everything went wrong, and the box office go rock bottom..........

The film itself is too long........ but not enough story to tell. It should fair better if it's 1 hour shorter. I actually almost fall asleep becauase of the slow pace....... My advice to Roland Emmerich (the director), you're not Steven Speilberg, nor Oliver Stone, please stick to flashy sci-fi movies.

I can't comment on Pearl Harbor, since I don't have the chance to see it yet, but it's one of the most bashed movie of 2001. In an epic war movie, many demand historical accuracy more than a fiction movie. Unfortunately, many felt being cheated because several objects from 70's actually present in a movie telling a story in 40's. One good example would the presence of Spruance class destroyers in the film. That class of destroyer entered service in late 70's, therefore having a distinct clean angular profile. Isn't that kind of rediculous, when after lots of money had been spent on other details, but they can't make some WWII destroyer models? At least they should get a 50's destroyers (general public won't know the difference).

How do you feel if Speilberg replaced the Tiger tanks in the final town battle scene (in Saving Private Ryan) with modern M1A1 tanks?
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by condor27 [/i]
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How do you feel if Speilberg replaced the Tiger tanks in the final town battle scene (in Saving Private Ryan) with modern M1A1 tanks? [/B][/QUOTE]

Well the Tiger tanks in the whole movie were in reality russian T80 tanks, with a little "Make-Up".

The best war Movie I know is [b]The thin red line[/b].
It was the only movie that was exciting [B]and[/B] historical correct.
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I think either We Were Soldiers or Saving Private Ryan were the best i've seen!
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I think the best movies were about WWII. My dad fought in Europe--he and I spent many afternoons watching our favorites. We liked A Bridge Too Far-it's a long movie, but absolutely filled with stars and a great soundtrack also. Unfortunately, dad passed away before Saving Private Ryan came out, but it tore me up so badly I almost had to leave the theater. I have not watched it since, although mom bought it for me. The new Bruce Willis movie, Hart's War, is good also. Keeps you on the edge of your seat, but it's not so emotionally involving.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Mc Erazor [/i]
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Well the Tiger tanks in the whole movie were in reality russian T80 tanks, with a little "Make-Up".

The best war Movie I know is [b]The thin red line[/b].
It was the only movie that was exciting [B]and[/B] historical correct. [/B][/QUOTE]

At least Speilberg did dress up a new tank as old one, but Bruckheimer and Bay didn't bother to do anything to the Spruance class destroyers.
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My favorite is Kelly's Heroes

Unlike most of the movies mentioned here it's more of a comedy than anything else

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I just today saw we were soldiers.....Excellent movie and theres non-stop-action through the whole thing. It absolutely a great movie but i still think Saving P R is the best war movie ever! I have another question what is the name of the old war movie with like a hundred stars in it like Sean Connery as some irish guy and i think John Wayne might have been in it. Does anyone know the name of that movie.
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Coasterfanman,

You are probably talking about The Longest Day, the movie about D-Day. That's a good movie.
 

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