Why are these Boards so Fascist?

VomitComet · #1 03-01-2003, 09:48 PM

Oh my God! It's insane how nit-picky and annoying the people who run this board are. The other place i post is the weezer forum and first of all, no threads are moved unless completely off-base. I am tentitively about posting anything cuase i fear that it will be moved. At this forum if i asked "Which coaster is the easist to design on RCT?" in a thread on the video game section, i am sure it would be moved to the poll section, and if i posted on the polls it would be moved to the video game section. FRankly who gives a damn. Which brings me to my next point: the badmouthing a swearing. Half of the fun of posting on boards is to swear and voice ur opinion about things. When i post on here i feel like i have to be wholesome, it is an unrealistic environment, like school. AND i cant believe people actually get banned. No matter what they said or did i am sure it wasnt that out of line. I just feel like this website should be about the members and what they have to say, the moderators have too much power!

SFGadvKing · #2 03-01-2003, 10:22 PM

here here vomitcomet! i agree with everything you said.

NO ONE OUT OF THEIR RIGHT MINDS BETTER SAY THIS POST WAS SPAM OR I WILL KICK THEIR ASS!!!!

Raptor · #3 03-01-2003, 10:22 PM

The rules here can seem a little too strict at times. However, the discrimination and badmouthing and tattle-taling is because of some of the members, not the mods.

Here is your typical thread on here these days, summed up:

Member A: "Hey guys, whats your favorite ice cream flavor?"
Member B: "I like chocolate! Its soo good!"
Member C: "Vanilla for me!"
Member D: "My favorite food is pizza."
Member E: "What? That was spam, Member D! Die, you sinner!"
Member F: "*quoting Member E* But THAT was spam too, you idiot!"
Member E: "No, that was spam too for pointing out that I spammed!"
Member G: "Shut up, you're all spammers! I'm gonna go report you to the mods in Help us Out!"

And that seriously needs to stop. Nobody wants to post in a forum with such hostile members. All of the members need to stop complaining about each other's post and just have fun conversations about roller coasters. Thats why we're here, right?

Kraken · #4 03-01-2003, 10:24 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by VomitComet [/i]
[B]Oh my God! It's insane how nit-picky and annoying the people who run this board are. The other place [color=red]i[/color] post is the weezer forum and first of all, no threads are moved unless completely off-base. I am tentitively about posting anything [color=red]cuase i[/color] fear that it will be moved. At this forum if [color=red]i[/color] asked "Which coaster is the easist to design on RCT?" in a thread on the video game section, [color=red]i[/color] am sure it would be moved to the poll section, and if [color=red]i[/color] posted on the polls it would be moved to the video game section. FRankly who gives a damn. Which brings me to my next point: the badmouthing a swearing. Half of the fun of posting on boards is to swear and voice [color=red]ur[/color] opinion about things. [color=red]When i post on here i feel like i have to be wholesome, it is an unrealistic environment, like school. AND i cant believe people actually get banned. No matter what they said or did i am sure it wasnt that out of line. I just feel like this website should be about the members and what they have to say, the moderators have too much power! [/color][/B][/QUOTE]

DAMN! Look at all of your spelling mistakes!

I highlighted them all in Red. I got several of them during the first half of your post, but that last half was so hard to read that I had to highlight the whole thing!

Learn to type, VomitComet, or should I say...[COLOR=RED][SIZE=16][b]

HITLER!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/B][/SIZE][/COLOR]

SFGadvKing · #5 03-01-2003, 10:25 PM

kraken, that was uncalled for.

***Chip*** · #6 03-01-2003, 11:07 PM

Kraken, that was uncalled for.
[QUOTE]Oh my God! It's insane how nit-picky and annoying the people who run this board are.[/quote]
There are other boards you could visit that are much more strict.
[quote]The other place i post is the weezer forum and first of all, no threads are moved unless completely off-base. I am tentitively about posting anything cuase i fear that it will be moved.[/quote]
Why are you so afraid of getting threads moved? It's not like they're deleted or modified. Nothing happens to threads being moved, they're still on the boards. I don't see the problem.
[quote]At this forum if i asked "Which coaster is the easist to design on RCT?" in a thread on the video game section, i am sure it would be moved to the poll section, and if i posted on the polls it would be moved to the video game section. FRankly who gives a damn.[/quote]
I still don't see why a simple thread being moved is causing you such trouble.
[quote]Which brings me to my next point: the badmouthing a swearing. Half of the fun of posting on boards is to swear and voice ur opinion about things. When i post on here i feel like i have to be wholesome, it is an unrealistic environment, like school.[/quote]
We're trying to maintain a family-friendly site. We don't feel cussing is necessary around the boards. We really don't need it.
[quote]AND i cant believe people actually get banned. No matter what they said or did i am sure it wasnt that out of line. I just feel like this website should be about the members and what they have to say, the moderators have too much power! [/QUOTE]
You know, sometimes you have to be a little strict, especially when most of the members are under 17. This Web site [i]is[/i] about the members. I don't know why you think moving a thread makes us crazy, power-hungry jerks. There is a little maturity thing, you know. And why do you not believe people get banned? What if someone goes nuts and starts spamming, making nonsense threads and trashing the forums? Something needs to be done. You can't let people do that. You have to draw the line somewhere.

Here's my analysis of Web sites and message boards: They're like amusement parks. You don't have to go to them and you don't have to stay. You can choose to get a season pass and visit the park whenever you feel. You shouldn't walk around the park and throw trash on the ground, yell at people in line getting sodas, or break windows in shops. And if it's a rainy day at a park and rides are closed, you can go home. You can step right inside a park and go right home if you're having a bad day. There is [i]nothing[/i] keeping you there. If you break a rule (line jumping, get in a fight, or whatever) security has the right to take you out of the park. I think they also have the right to take your season pass. They also might be able to keep you from visiting the park for a while. Parks have rules to keep places in order and make it nice for everyone visiting.

And that's that. I am going to open this thread again. You have to understand that we are only enforcing the rules (we don't make them) to maintain order. If you don't like them, you don't have to stay here.

Rebel2000 · #7 03-01-2003, 11:36 PM

Chip, I agree with you whole-heartedly. I have to add that there's a line between posting opinions and just plain posting offensive stuff. You can say what you want...blah blah blah...but if it truly is offensive and unnecesary, don't say it. Swearing is also something that you don't have to use to voice your opinion. You can conduct and argument calmy and actually have your opinion heard, or conduct it angrily and be disregarded because of that.

BTW, if you knew what some of the banned people did, you'd see why they were banned. Some things do cross the lines.

P.S. - The "Which coaster is the easist to design on RCT?" thread would probably be moved to the RCT section. :D

[B]1500TH POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/B]

**Andrew P** · #8 03-02-2003, 12:22 AM

I have seen boards where swearing is commonplace. [url]http://collegebowling.com[/url]

Now from that...those people really should not but it is their way of expressing themselves. The most penalty they got from swearing so much was having a page deleted in the "Kent State/University of Toledo We might as well start now" thread.

Now about moving to polls and what not, I think it is a major flaw in the design of this board, because I can go into any forum, start a new thread, and still have the option of posting a poll. If I would do that, it automatically gets sent to polls without another question asked. I think the Polls area should be removed completely or fixed in that only certain forums can allow polls.

Amy · #9 03-02-2003, 01:15 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by CedarPoint_Mark [/i]
[B]I have seen boards where swearing is commonplace. [url]http://collegebowling.com[/url] [/B][/QUOTE]

True, lots of boards are moderated very loosely and allow swearing. However, as Chip pointed out, the majority of our members are around 13, 14, 15...if you notice, that is College bowling. The average age of the posters at that board are a good 5 years older than the majority of our members. At those ages, 5 years does make a difference.

BTW, I'm just making a point. I know 13 year olds who are more mature than some 30 year olds, but you guys get my drift.

Erik Johnson · #10 03-02-2003, 01:21 PM

Also, I just want to throw in that we want to help make ThrillNetwork a better site for you. If you have a problem with the way we're moderating this site, please send us a PM or e-mail. We're all decent people and will take the time to talk to you. If you're concerned, please talk to us. We want to resolve these issues as badly as you do. Let's work together to make a better TN.

Rebel2000 · #11 03-02-2003, 01:22 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by CedarPoint_Mark [/i]
[B]I have seen boards where swearing is commonplace. [url]http://collegebowling.com[/url]

Now from that...those people really should not but it is their way of expressing themselves. The most penalty they got from swearing so much was having a page deleted in the "Kent State/University of Toledo We might as well start now" thread.

Now about moving to polls and what not, I think it is a major flaw in the design of this board, because I can go into any forum, start a new thread, and still have the option of posting a poll. If I would do that, it automatically gets sent to polls without another question asked. I think the Polls area should be removed completely or fixed in that only certain forums can allow polls. [/B][/QUOTE] First of all, swearing is unnecessary. I think ANYONE can express their opinion without having to swear. If anything, I think not swearing makes your opinion more viable.

And what's wrong with moving threads? If it's moved its only so that the thread will be found by people who are actually looking for that kind of thread (ex: someone looking for a poll to answer would find the thread in polls more easily than in video games). It isn't deleted or closed, so what's the big deal?

***Chip*** · #12 03-02-2003, 02:44 PM

One more thing I'd like to add.

At some sites I can think of, if someone saw a thread like this, it would be closed, deleted, and Vomitcomet would have been banned. Notice how this thread is still open and we are discussing intelligently about your problem? We are reasonable people and we take each concern and try to work through them, like Erik said above. We are not fascists.

**Andrew P** · #13 03-02-2003, 03:10 PM

Jeez

I never said there was anything wrong with movign threads. What I DID say is that there is a design flaw with how the boards are currently. You can start a thread in coasters and have the option of posting a poll in it. If you so decide to post a poll, it automatically gets moved to polls. The only exception was How tall will TTD be? I posted a thread on Suicide at another forum but left out the poll option, sticking it in general talk. If I included a poll, it would automatically be moved to the polls section. If you notice here, the polls section falls under games. Some polls are not games and that is what I am trying to convey here.

***Alex Westerman*** · #14 03-02-2003, 03:18 PM

Do you think then that we should allow polls in any forum but move only "game" related threads to GAMES ----> Polls ???

Anaconda · #15 03-02-2003, 03:22 PM

Actually Alex, I do think that polls should be allowed in any forum since I often get confused over whether my post should be in Forum A or polls.

Raptor · #16 03-02-2003, 03:28 PM

I think closing the polls forum [i]might[/i] be a good idea. If somebody wants to start a poll that isn't about coasters, it can go in General Talk. That will also help increase traffic in General Talk. If the poll is about coasters, parks or construction, they can put it in the designated forum. As it is right now (and has been for awhile), many members see polls as a way to increase their post count by just typing a quick response to the poll's question. This usually destroys and discussion that thread could have. Just because a thread has a poll doesn't mean you can't say anything except the answer to the poll.

As for the Games forum, I've always felt it was kind of pointless.

VomitComet · #17 03-02-2003, 10:05 PM

I am glad you guys answered my thread. I forgot that most of the people on the boards were early teens. Notice, Kraken, that I am capitolizing I to make you happy. You guys just really sound like Mr. Rogers sometimes, God rest his soul.

Sir Willow · #18 03-03-2003, 04:24 PM

* steps into old mod mode*
Actually there is a reason for the polls forums being the way it is. Back when polls were first allowed to be created on the boards, they were popping up everywhere. I mean literally 1/2 to 2/3rds of some forums were being taken up by polls about anything and everything. So much so that it was nearly impossible to have much discussion without a poll being around in the way. At that time the decision was made to help keep conversation flowing, to reduce the repetitive polls (there were a lot), and just to keep them under control, to move all the polls to their own dedicated forum. Not ideal, but as bad as it was it was probably the best decision that could be made at the time. And it's worked very well. But at the same time I'm not sure that the coding allows you to actually turn off the polls only in certain fourms. I think it may be an "all on or all off" type of switch, which is why you can still start them in the other forums, even though you're not supposed to, and why the moderators will move them manually.
/ old mod mode

All that said, the way the boards have settled into a nice rhythm, maybe it's time to consider allowing polls to be in the regular forums again. And I wouldn't be surprised at all to find the moderators and admins talking about it some to decide if it's viable and would actually work well at this point. In any case, I'm sure that they'll make the decision that they feel is best for the boards and the community as a whole.

ride6 · #19 03-03-2003, 04:34 PM

Yes putting polls away and sending the rest to the other forums might not be a bad idea. The only problem with it was probably already mentioned. I like the games forum! Heck when I was still a member at Ulament Roller Coaster all I did was answer Question in their games poll (I'm pretty good at RCT, both beating the levels and okay at mega parks but I only toyed around... Untill now). So keep games, if anything make them more accesable, I never get much for replys and niether do the other threads over there. I'd post a link in my sig. but I don't know how. *sigh*

BimmerZ3 · #20 03-03-2003, 10:53 PM

I think that threads with polls attached shouldn't be automatically moved to the Polls forum. However, we should keep the polls forum for complete random stuff such as "What is your favorite ice cream?"

**Andrew P** · #21 03-03-2003, 11:46 PM

I had this idea (funny how this htread verged off politics and turned into site suggestions!) at work. Suppose you create a thread and need a poll to help further the discussion, but the poll is not the basis for the discussion. That is what I am trying to suggest. Indescriptive polls such as favorite ice cream should remain in polls. TO further exemplify my point, take a look at the official 2003 CP contrsuction. That had a poll and yet remained in the coasters/parks area.

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