In Denver Colorado, a woman had a bumper sticker that read "F--- BUSH", except it wasn't edited like I typed it out above. A police officer said that she would be arrested if seen with the sticker still on her vehicle next time he seen her. (See story below)

[url]http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_3495709,00.html[/url]


While I don't agree with her opinion on President Bush, I do believe in freedom of speech. However, I think that sometimes it it taken too far. I don't think obscene language should be allowed in public like on bumper stickers or on t-shirts and such. I think a line does have to be drawn somewhere. I have no problem with her or anyone else for that matter expressing their disapproval of George W. Bush but isn't there a better and smarter way than saying "F--- BUSH"?

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If I had him as the leader of my country I would probably have the same bumper sticker posted somewhere....

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Eh, over reaction to a different opinion. Could it have been a politer sticker? yeah, but maybe it says exactly what she wanted it to say. Short and to the point. I don't see what's so wrong with the "F" word anyway, it's just a word. Not like it pushes children down in the street, or kicks puppies.

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Good for her for exercising her right to free speech! Now...the real question here is...was she threatened to be arrested because the bumper sticker possessed the F word, or was she arrested because it was an attack against the Republican party?

All of you people who support our "genius" President...are you sorry now that he is our leader? He wants to overturn Roe v. Wade. He wants to remove the tax break for homeowners to finance this needless war. Yesterday, so many more of our soldiers were killed. Can anyone tell me why our men and women are still there? What are they truly fighting for?

So that your fat ass can post here.

And if mods now think that the "F word" is okay and that it's "just a word". How about we remove the curse filters?

I'm getting a bumper sticker that says "I want to touch your children". What do you free-speech doves think about it?

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Have you guys ever heard of thing called disturbing the peace, you simply just can't have something obscene showing in a public area. You by all means simply don't have the right to do that, and deserve to be punished to the fullest extent of the law, regardless of whether it says f bush, f kerry, or f anything else.

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She had the word "*****" on her bumper sticker. Therefore, she should be prosecuted. Too bad. Quit making a scene.

[QUOTE=coastergenius100]you simply just can't have something obscene showing in a public area. [/QUOTE]

Well then why do they allow it in movies ? ;)

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lol smarta**! :p

I saw that sticker on some web site and was thinking of ordering it but never did. It ould be cool to have it as my Avatar but too bad.

[QUOTE=TDMAMBA]lol smarta**! :p[/QUOTE]

You are officially BANED for that remark mister.

lol

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I'm pretty sure I've seen laws for "lewd conduct" but never a law for crude or lewd language. Until it's on the books as a law, don't try to manipulate it into some other offence that it's obviously not.

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[QUOTE=Wes]Well then why do they allow it in movies ? ;)[/QUOTE]

Well movies have the rating system so I dont thing little children can just walk into a rated R movie by themselves and hear a bunch of swear words. It just common courtesy not to swear in public where little ears can hear you and repeat.

I don't see the problem with a bumper sticker that says "**** Bush" or **** anything for that mater. As citizens of the United States we do have our right to free speech. In fact democracy can’t function without it. I definitely feel someone has the right to express his or her views about our [color=black]beloved[font=Times New Roman][size=3] [/size][/font][/color]president.

And anyway, what’s so bad about the F word? It’s just a word and nothing more. And I don’t see how censoring it from the public is going to protect our children. Kids know about the F word anyway.

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Case in point man caught driving down road while watching a porno video. He was arrested not just because he was a distracted driver, little kids could see in the car when he stopped at a light etc. We don't have to agree on political issues but how about our guys and gals over there defending our right to get on here and say things that would get you put in prison in Old USSR or the former Iraq Note, I have witnessed parents of soldiers who write home and say whatever it takes its worth it. Nothing worthwhile is ever easy. You don't have to agree to still show your support for our brave men and women.

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[QUOTE=Loki]Well movies have the rating system so I dont thing little children can just walk into a rated R movie by themselves and hear a bunch of swear words. It just common courtesy not to swear in public where little ears can hear you and repeat.[/QUOTE]

I wasn't being serious. That's what the ;) was for. :)

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LOL! screw bush!!! Kerry should of won but he kinda sucked too, but i still would pick him over bush!

That's so sad. A country where you can't express your opinion. See, for all you thick little people over there, this is just the surface. Next they'll drill into stuff like "Bush Sucks" bumperstickers.

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[QUOTE=Sandy W]Case in point man caught driving down road while watching a porno video. He was arrested not just because he was a distracted driver, little kids could see in the car when he stopped at a light etc. We don't have to agree on political issues but how about our guys and gals over there defending our right to get on here and say things that would get you put in prison in Old USSR or the former Iraq Note, I have witnessed parents of soldiers who write home and say whatever it takes its worth it. Nothing worthwhile is ever easy. You don't have to agree to still show your support for our brave men and women.[/QUOTE]

Exposing children to porn is not exactly the same as exposing them to the F word. I have to agree with stopping a man from driving down the street while watching porn, and porn that kids can see. But one major difference between the two is that people had to read the bumper sticker. And if you read it you obviously know what the word is... so why should it be a problem for people, they know what it is since the read it. In the porn you were talking about children couldn’t help but see it, and it wasn’t like reading something since, us fat-assed TV watching Americans tend to be inclined to look at what is on a TV.

And you say our troops over in Iraq are fighting for our freedom? Then why is it that all it seems were doing over there is fighting for their freedom? It would have been different if there were weapons of mass destruction but since none were found and the search for them is over its more of a liberation mission now... so we are fighting for [b]THEIR[/b] freedom. And anyway, what does any of that have to do with the censorship of the F word and bumper stickers?

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Well the whole subject is tied into what the bumper sticker said. I was responding to other opinions that were incerted earlier in this thread. As for weapons the show aint over til the fat lady sings. There are lots of hidy holes over there still to be poked into.

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What would she be arrestted for?

Its generally excepted that print isn't censored.........you don't get 18 rated books. This is print, and making her remove it is a block to free speech. On a less serious point, it would never happen here, the police have (you'd hope anyway) much more important stuff to do, even if it did break law (it dosn't, here anyway).

[QUOTE=Sandy W]Well the whole subject is tied into what the bumper sticker said. I was responding to other opinions that were incerted earlier in this thread. As for weapons the show aint over til the fat lady sings. There are lots of hidy holes over there still to be poked into.[/QUOTE]

There were no weapons. The main purpose was originally to find weapons, but when that failed, the mission changed to "liberate Iraq" and bring democracy to the people. A democracy where the candidates for an election 3 days away are unknown. A democracy filled with uncontrollable violence. A democracy that wants us out.

Hidy holes? Mhmm.....yes, hidy holes.

Let her have the damn sticker, it's her right. Jeesh.

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Hey! Half of of you people on this thread who are protesting something, refer to sig.

The sticker was in a public forum. There was no rating system keeping kids away from it. It is cause for legal action. Sorry folks, the cops were right in their actions.

Sandy, I hate to disagree with you, but I'm 99% convinced that there are no WMD's in Iraq. They are gone. As to whether or not there WERE any WMD's in Iraq, that is really only questioned by mindless ideologues. Everyone knows that Iraq had WMD's (mostly chemical) and it's a matter of history that Saddam had a nucelar weapons program. But they had enough time to move them out before we went in, because we were stupid enough to wait around, trying to get approval from the UN. (Yeah, the guys getting bribe money from Saddam)

As for the bumper sticker, it's crude, vulgar and tasteless. It is also offensive, and that's why it shouldn't be allowed. If you think that free speech means you have a right to say anything you want, any time you want, try going into a theater and yelling "fire!" Try going into an airport and yelling "hijack." What a lot of people seem to be convieniently forgetting is that with rights come responsibilities. I would stand up and fight for this woman's right to express her opinions about the president, as long as she was doing it responsibly. Can't she come up with anything better to say against the president than this? The funny part is that this woman probably makes disparaging remarks about the president's intellect. Kind of ironic, isn't it?

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fbama and Bruns, it's her right. End of story.

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I agree with the whole it is just a word. Kids are going to be exposed to it eventually. Have some of you walked into a public school lately? You walk from one class to another and all you here is swearing and the "f" word and the "n" word and the "sh" word and every other word in the "sailor" dictionary. I was in my old elementary school, they cuss too. Parents may think their kids don't do it, but they do.

My point is that they will be exposed to it and they will use it. The kids at my school scream curse words in class and the teachers do nothing about it.

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The sticker was in a public forum. There was no rating system keeping kids away from it. It is cause for legal action. Sorry folks, the cops were right in their actions[/QUOTE]


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As for the bumper sticker, it's crude, vulgar and tasteless. It is also offensive, and that's why it shouldn't be allowed. If you think that free speech means you have a right to say anything you want, any time you want, try going into a theater and yelling "fire!" Try going into an airport and yelling "hijack." What a lot of people seem to be convieniently forgetting is that with rights come responsibilities. I would stand up and fight for this woman's right to express her opinions about the president, as long as she was doing it responsibly. Can't she come up with anything better to say against the president than this? [/QUOTE]


Think how many books have this sort of content in them.......they have no controls, and thats the way it should be.

Any sort of controls over this is a threat to freedom of speech.....next your'll be wanting to censor people saying it.

its not very original but if she wants to express that opinion then good for her.

You know whats really ironic fbama? Conservatives saying liberals interfere in peoples lives,then telling them what they can and can't say. And it goes much further than this too.

There is no need to express the opinion responsiably. The examples you gave aren't opinions at all.

controlling Media is one thing.....but not written text. It would be a frightening step in the wrong direction.

I think the officer was a republican. Second, I get ticked off when people say "F-Bush." They are dumb IMO, because they are so filled with hate and not necessarily sane arguments. So should she be arrested? Probably not, but it demonstrates bad taste on her part. I give no credibility to people that share her sentiments. In the same way, the folks that said "F-Kerry" also don't deserve credibility (unless they were in Vietnam). I rather fancy constructive viewpoints.

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Shes shouldn't be arrested for that. It's free speech. what's so bad about the F Word? It's just a sound that comes out of our mmouth through our vocal cords, and if people want to say it, I say let them. The only instance where I would say they couldn't have the sticker is in a private community where you could get kicked out if you have something like that.

[color=black]ErioL, I too hate when someone’s only argument is F Bush or F Kerry. I love when people are informed and can give intelligent reasons as to why they feel that way. Although there isn’t much you can do with a bumper sticker. People aren’t going to slap an essay on why they don’t like bush on the back of their car. The point of the sticker was to quickly and effectively get her point across. [/color]

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