My bench has been stuck at 365 since april. I have been cutting dropped down from 230lbs down to 200 and have dropped my bf from 14 to 9%:)

Problem is i like my lean muscle mass and don't want to put on anymore weight. So if i ran a small cycle of dbol and drink plenty of milk thistle i should be fine to add some more strenght.

Does anyone have any expierence or knows of anybody that has juiced?

Your penis and other genitalia will shrink, plus you'll get angry and moody, like many women during their period. That's what I know from those who have juiced on my HS football team. A few years ago, some kid not far from here was so depressed from taking steroids that he committed suicide.

Don't take steroids, just keeping working the weight room. Every sport has a plateau (it's hard to improve for quite a while), I had mine in swimming a year back. My times just wouldn't go up; I even bought a Fastskin technical suit, but nothing happened. I kept plugging away, and finally, my times started to drop again. You'll get there buddy, just don't juice up.

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I didn't know there was another serious weightlifter on this site...

Keep away from the steroids, though, any gains they might give are quickly overshadowed by the negative effects. Increasing your strength while keeping your weight steady is a pretty slow process, so I'm not surprised you've hit a temporary plateau with your bench, it happened to me a few years ago. Just keep working hard and eventually you'll see it creep up again. I'm not sure how far you'll be able to get without gaining weight, how high were you hoping to go?

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Your penis isn't worth that extra little bit of bicep.

[QUOTE=Aaron]I didn't know there was another serious weightlifter on this site...

Keep away from the steroids, though, any gains they might give are quickly overshadowed by the negative effects. Increasing your strength while keeping your weight steady is a pretty slow process, so I'm not surprised you've hit a temporary plateau with your bench, it happened to me a few years ago. Just keep working hard and eventually you'll see it creep up again. I'm not sure how far you'll be able to get without gaining weight, how high were you hoping to go?[/QUOTE]

I want to break into the 400lb bench press club. Right now i am consuming 2500 calories daily with 400 grams of protien daily, and only essential fats of ANPB and flax oil, and healthy carbs such as yams and oats. I know the only way to add strenght and size is to eat about 500 more calories than my body mass index but i want to stay at my weight.

I know a kid in one of my classes who juiced last year, and was very mean, but this year he's not nearly as bad as he was, becasue he quit.

[QUOTE=YoungStud]I want to break into the 400lb bench press club. Right now i am consuming 2500 calories daily with 400 grams of protien daily, and only essential fats of ANPB and flax oil, and healthy carbs such as yams and oats. I know the only way to add strenght and size is to eat about 500 more calories than my body mass index but i want to stay at my weight.[/QUOTE]

You'll have to eat more calories than that. The recommened allowance of calories for average sedentary people is already 2,000 calories a day. The body does need some carbs and fats besides what you're eating. In fact, at 2,500 calories a day, you'll probably start losing weight soon. So I would recommend raising it to the 3,000, possibly slightly higher than that even. Try it for a couple weeks and you'll see that you can probably increase your strength. And if you do gain any extra fat weight that you're not happy with, you can always cut right back down and lose the little fat that you gained in no time.

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I want to go to John's Park.

This is what i am on right now.

5:00 AM. 20mg ephedra and 200 mg caffeine.
RUN: 5 miles

lunch time, 1:00 another 20mg ephedra and 200 mg caffeine,(Best weight loss stack on the planet!)

9:00 Lift.
mondays, Chest
Tuesday, back/shoulders
wed. rest
thurs, arms
fri, legs,
sat, sun, rest.

I am throwing in 10g of pure cee to keep me from losing strenght while cutting.

I have a protein shake before and after my workouts. I would take the time to list my diet but like i said, 400 grams of protein, essential fats of anpb and flax, and yams and brown rice are my carbs of choice.

It is impossible to both cut and gain lean body mass, but i don't care about that i just want my strenght to go up to impress girls at the gym and for bragging rights. I have been reading up on steroids for a while now.

Right now i am cranky as hell while on the ephedra caffeine stack, so if i get on the juice i would be dangerous, lol.

would you really feel good about yourself if you got past 365 only because of steroids. Yeah, you'' get stronger, but at a terrible cost

[QUOTE=YoungStud] i just want my strenght to go up to impress girls at the gym and for bragging rights. [/QUOTE]

Nothing impresses women more than a bad attitude and shrunken genitals.

Seriously, you've had the dedication to get to where you are without 'roids, you can get further.

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[QUOTE=YoungStud]This is what i am on right now.

5:00 AM. 20mg ephedra and 200 mg caffeine.
RUN: 5 miles

lunch time, 1:00 another 20mg ephedra and 200 mg caffeine,(Best weight loss stack on the planet!)

9:00 Lift.
mondays, Chest
Tuesday, back/shoulders
wed. rest
thurs, arms
fri, legs,
sat, sun, rest.

I am throwing in 10g of pure cee to keep me from losing strenght while cutting.

I have a protein shake before and after my workouts. I would take the time to list my diet but like i said, 400 grams of protein, essential fats of anpb and flax, and yams and brown rice are my carbs of choice.

It is impossible to both cut and gain lean body mass, but i don't care about that i just want my strenght to go up to impress girls at the gym and for bragging rights. I have been reading up on steroids for a while now.

Right now i am cranky as hell while on the ephedra caffeine stack, so if i get on the juice i would be dangerous, lol.[/QUOTE]

That's borderline retarded.

You dissing my training? I like to be fit, sorry if you don't care how you look.

Hey i think its a good routine, how long do you lift per day? I usually do upper body mon, lower body tues, abdominal wed, upper boddy thurs, and lower fri. Sat. and Sun. are various...I really need to start running every day too.

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[QUOTE=YoungStud]

I have a protein shake before and after my workouts. [/QUOTE]

What brand of protein do you use? I've been pretty happy with Isopure, but my goal set is somewhat different from yours.

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Why the hell do you guys want to GAIN weight?

I've never really understood that...

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