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Found this in another forum though I'd post it here to spread some debate.

I think its a stupid move. To me its just making marijuana easier for people to get their hands on. To believe it will be used as a substitute for alchohol abuse is nonsense. Not only will people still abuse alchohol, but now they have another drug which they can legally get their hands on to abuse.

Do you think its a good move? Bad move? Do you think more of the country will follow in Denver's footsteps?

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Doesn't matter either way. The federal gov't, says its not legal no matter what. So until they do something about it, it's still not legal no matter what the states say.

They're already high anyway.

LOL, so it is still not legal in denver..or is it? Im confused.

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Colorado state, and federal law deem ANY amount of marijuana illegal. Since both of these laws are ABOVE city law, these are the ones in affect. It doesn't matter what the citizens of Denver says about it, it is still illegal until the state and federal laws change.

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Id rather see them start cracking down on alcohol instead of marijuana, the effects of being drunk are much worse than being "high".

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^They have. You have to be a certain age to drink. If you are found operating a vehicle while under the influence, you can lose your license. Now I don't know if this is state or federal law, but the legal limit in Ohio dropped from 0.1 to 0.08 defining legally drunk. The lower that number gets proves that they are cracking down on alcohol.

Marijuana, to the best of my knowledge, (despite being illegal) is also not regulated the way alcohol is. Trust me when I say this...when or if marijuana is federally legalized, there will be so many "rules" that you'll wish it wasn't.

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[QUOTE=magnumxl2005]Id rather see them start cracking down on alcohol instead of marijuana, the effects of being drunk are much worse than being "high".[/QUOTE]

Interesting Point. I know people who do indeed smoke marijuana as well as drink alcahol, and what I've found out is to be prepared to do both. What I mean is, take their keys away. I'm not into drinking alcahol or smoking, but I do like to hangout at parties, even though it goes on. Don't ask why, but I'm just not into that stuff. There is a high risk involved when you take that sort of approach. Hanging out and being responsible doesn't mean you're not cool or anything, in fact, driving people home can help them out a large amount.

The effects of both are different. When you're "high" (Which I have never experience by the way) I think you're un-interested to drive or do something to progress yourself to a destination. More so just...gaze in what you have at your fingertips. Sort of "space out" and trip out...looking for some munchies.

Alcahol on the other hand, makes you want to do something...get you somewhere and lose your sense of judgement. This means that if you AREN'T responsible, you could wind up in your car putting people's lives at risk. There are many things that I can tolerate, but driving while you are under the influence is something I cannot accept at all. Its one of the worst things you can do as a human being.

I would rather see people encourage being prepared when you drink alcahol rather than not drink it. Its a element of parties and something to do at bars, clubs, and so forth. If you're smart, you'll be prepared. Being a designated driver, or just going sober that night can mean all the difference. You don't need alcahol to have fun.

That was kind of a tangent, but basically I was trying to say that yes, the effect of alcahol can lead to some serious problems. That doesn't however mean that Marijuana is okay to use.

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It's almost a shame that they won't be able to legally smoke marijauna there in Denver. Reason being? It would truly add new meaning to the phrase "The mile [I]high[/I] city"

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[quote]When you're "high" (Which I have never experience by the way) I think you're un-interested to drive or do something to progress yourself to a destination. More so just...gaze in what you have at your fingertips. Sort of "space out" and trip out...looking for some munchies.[/quote]

That's definitely a generalization upon which you have no basis to make an argument, since you have never smoked. I've driven both very high and very drunk (stupid, I know). I smoke weed every day, so I am extremely used to the effects and can drive stoned without a problem. When I first started smoking, no way would I attempt that, but if you are in control of yourself, which most people who smoke a lot are, it isn't a problem. Driving drunk, on the other hand, I have always regretted doing and tell my friends to forbid me doing in the future. I've always made it home safe, but it's not worth the risk.

As for legalizing pot, do it! First of all, the government has no place telling me what I can and can't inhale. Second, anyone who wants to smoke already does. If you're not going to legalize it, decriminalize it because it's ridiculous to get arrested over such a petty "crime."

its the alltitude its got them high.
plus the goverment cant tax weed.

I'm not so sure I like this. Even though I've only lived in a college dorm a month and a half I've seen the effects marijuana has on people multiple times, and I have to ask myself, "Why?" What's the point? I really don't get it. As far as I can tell from observing other people, all it does is make you really zoned out, wobbly, liable to do stupid things, and very hungry. What does Denver have to gain from legalizing it? Just because no one's ever died from marijuana overdose, that doesn't mean it's healthy.
I support the use of marijuana purely for medicinal purposes. For recreational use, keep it illegal.

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just what was on my mind

So...I don't get it. Denver legalized it, yet Federal Law prohibits it. Isn't that kind of like how if a school district prohibits canned sodas in their schools and the Principal at the junior high says it's okay? What's the deal with that?

[QUOTE=Cobra]That's definitely a generalization upon which you have no basis to make an argument, since you have never smoked.[/QUOTE]

That's a lame basis for devaluing the point made. If it's wrong, prove why. To say "you've never done it so you don't know" is a cop out.

By your logic, nobody could ever speak about suicide or the death penalty, among other things.

As far as pot is concerned, everyone I've known who has smoked on a regular basis has experienced visible evidence of decreased mental acuity. That's just the people I've seen, not everyone who has ever smoked. And, I will also say that I've seen people start, slow down mentally, then quit smoking and return to the way they were before.

Maybe it just makes you mentally lazy.

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[QUOTE=Cobra]Second, anyone who wants to smoke already does. If you're not going to legalize it, decriminalize it because it's ridiculous to get arrested over such a petty "crime."[/QUOTE]

I'm sure that anyone who wants to smoke pot does, but a big reason why I think its a bad idea is because it would be a lot easier for kids to get some marijuana out of their parents legal stash then finding a dealer on the street to get some.

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[QUOTE=chilled]They're already high anyway.[/QUOTE]

I guess when they say "Mile High" they mean it!

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[QUOTE=fbama73]That's a lame basis for devaluing the point made. If it's wrong, prove why. To say "you've never done it so you don't know" is a cop out.

By your logic, nobody could ever speak about suicide or the death penalty, among other things.

As far as pot is concerned, everyone I've known who has smoked on a regular basis has experienced visible evidence of decreased mental acuity. That's just the people I've seen, not everyone who has ever smoked. And, I will also say that I've seen people start, slow down mentally, then quit smoking and return to the way they were before.

Maybe it just makes you mentally lazy.[/QUOTE]


What do you mean it's a cop out? If you haven't done it, you don't know as much about it as someone who has. More people smoke than you think. The only reason why there is such a "spaced out" stereotype with stoners is that people who smoke and aren't like that give you no reason to believe they are even stoned. If I put some Visine in my eyes nobody would question a thing.

I don't agree with that last statement, Cobra. I can almost always tell when someone has smoked before school the second they walk into the class.

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I don't know what you are disagreeing with. Sure, there are some people who make it very obvious that they are high. But I guarantee you that for every person you know is stoned, there is another person who is stoned that you don't know about. Especially in college where marijuana usage is a lot more casual. I have been smoking for a long time so I have a tolerance and can function completely normal while high. For most smokers it is this way. That's why you can't really make an argument about it if you have never experienced it. It isn't like being drunk where you just become sloppier and sloppier as you continue. It is just a feeling that your body gets, and it is very easy to do normal things while enjoying the high.

I have been with people "high" and can say that it is nothing like alcohol. When "high" you just want to sit down, watch a movie or sleep or eat. I personally think the effects of alcohol are much worse than getting "high" but if it was legalized people wouldn't smoke so much because It would take out the fun of doing something illegal and possibly causeing people to go on to other things such as ecstasy "crack" or other major killing drugs.

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[quote=Cobra]If you haven't done it, you don't know as much about it as someone who has.[/quote]In a way, true. However, that certainly doesn't mean you aren't aware of what the effects are. Since I've never smoked marijuana I can't say I know exactly what it does, but judging from my observations of people who do smoke it, I have a pretty good idea.

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I think legalizing marijuana could be great if they were to tax the living hell outta people for selling/buying/using it.

Smoking marijuana is also safer than drinking or smoking tobacco, and nobody has ever officially died of a marijuana overdose.

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[QUOTE=Aaron]In a way, true. However, that certainly doesn't mean you aren't aware of what the effects are. Since I've never smoked marijuana I can't say I know exactly what it does, but judging from my observations of people who do smoke it, I have a pretty good idea.[/QUOTE]


Maybe, but having a "pretty good idea" doesn't mean anything if you are talking to someone who has an exact idea.

After experiencing an extremely intense mushrooms trip on a camping trip this past weekend, it makes me laugh when people think of marijuana as dangerous.

HERES THE DEAL

If you get pulled over by a cop in city limits, and not on the intersate, meaning the cop is a Denver city police cop...your fine. However, if your on the interstate or out of the city then your screwed if your caught. The job description for a Denver policeman says NOTHING about searching for marijuana.

Rules:
You must be 21
You cannot have more than an ounce (an ounce is A LOT anyway)

They funny thing is though, most people who get into weed in their
teen and college years stop around or shortly after 21. So its basically like teen drinking all over again.

I have no problem with marijuana or teen drinking. I personally do not chose to do marijuana however, but if it was legal chances are I'd give it a try...However I once was at a party and ate a brownie, and quickly found out it was a special brownie.

When you're high it gives the same "tipsy" effect as drinking, except when your wasted (on alchohol) you get a whole lot more "tipsy." When you're high, you wanna eat, listen to music (someone told me the feel like theyre in the music when theyre high, found that weird), chill, and laugh at every little thing that happens. Your mouth also gets really dry sometimes, called "cotton mouth," which I could imagine would suck.

I think the reason many people choose it over drinking is the whole no hangover thing, althoguh both have their cons.



Also, anyone ever been on a rollercoaster drunk or high? It is something I would definitely look into doing.

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Why would you want that? Because you want to lose half the contents of your stomache afterwards?

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I think it would be amazing, and im not talking wasted...enough that you could still hide the fact that your drunk from the op.

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Wow. Just wow.


I r t3h pot, it is teh coolz!!11!!!!


Legalize it, charge insanely high prices for it, and tax it at over 150%. At least give the people what they want and make some cash at the same time. If they're going to be stupid and smoke it anyway, make some money off their stupidity.

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[quote]Also, anyone ever been on a rollercoaster drunk or high? It is something I would definitely look into doing.[/quote]

I ate one and a half very potent brownies before I went to Hallowscream at BGT last month. It was awesome.


[quote]Legalize it, charge insanely high prices for it, and tax it at over 150%. At least give the people what they want and make some cash at the same time. If they're going to be stupid and smoke it anyway, make some money off their stupidity.[/quote]

You do realize that if marijuana is legalized, most people who smoke are not going to buy it from the government. Dealers are not going to stop selling just because customers can buy it from a store. Also, if marijuana was legal, I would definitely grow it. Many people would probably do this. I wish I could do it now, but the risks are too great.

^I think you are a complete idiot.


"Yeah man, I do drugs and I'm proud of it, yeah!!1111"

"OMG, Shrooms and pot r t3h awesomez!!111!"

"Totally you should ride every coaster stoned man yeah!!!1111!!"


Why do you fell the need to brag about your drug addiction and rampant drug use? Maybe it's the marijuana screwing up your mental capabilities.........

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