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A group of atheists at UTSA was asking students to exchange bibles for porn magazines Wednesday, and that has made some religious leaders angry. News 4 WOAI first broke the story at 6 p.m. Wednesday.

At a Wednesday night church service, The Bible is the bond between believers, but on the UTSA campus a group of students were calling scripture, smut.

"We consider The Bible to be a very negative force in the history of the world," student Ryan Walker said. He is part of a student group calling itself the "Atheist Agenda."

Club members were on campus asking students to exchange religious materials for pornographic magazines like Black Label and Playboy.

News 4 WOAI's Demond Fernandez showed the Athiest Agenda's "Smut for Smut" fliers to Pastor Rick Hawkins of the Family Praise Center.

"In my opinion, there are no atheists. There are fools," Hawkins said. "So, that would be foolish propaganda."

Other Christians we talked to agreed with Pastor Hawkins.

Athiest Agenda members said they got the idea from students in Austin. They claimed they were only exercising freedom of speech.

"I don't know one believer that would take his Bible and turn it in for pornography," Pastor Hawkins said.

So far, only five students have exchanged their bibles for porn.

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What has this world come to? The people are really stupid. I would never trade the Bible for porno.

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I am a very religious Catholic, and I am beginning to believe this the end of the world. I mean flooding, earthquakes, and now this, just like the bible states, it's revelation. Ahhh... I hope I am wrong.

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I'd totally trade a Bible for porn, and yes the poor design of the New Orleans levees is the end of the world. I mean eartquakes never happen, and the earth doesn't EVER move. That's totally perposterous. Pangea is a lie.

[quote=Sarmad]I am a very religious Catholic, and I am beginning to believe this the end of the world. I mean flooding, earthquakes, and now this, just like the bible states, it's revelation. Ahhh... I hope I am wrong.[/quote]

Those events are totally not natural. I truly beleive you and your brilliant ideas. Satan and is followers are really coming to end the world as we know it. Or is it the aliens? The clowns? I'm starting to get scared... I truly hope the clowns don't come and eat our legs. Good call Sarmad.

Better get those tin foil hats and bomb shelters ready ready...

At least blame it on the Bird Flu or something more dramatic.

BTW Bird Flu is in California.

I think it's sad really but not even as a Catholic or Christian but as a human being. First I have nothing against porn, I have a small collection of it. It's that the fact that people are there trying to diminish what others believe and if you think about what they're doing, it's quite insulting.

If they want to be atheists, that's fine, it's their right and that's part of what makes this country great. I don't see any reason for them to try and convince others that there is no God. I know that some Christians do a similar thing by trying to spread their word to those who don't want to hear it either and I'm not condoning that either. I just think people should leave others be and let them believe what they want to and not pull off promotional stunts that can be very offensive.

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I think it is wrong to trade a Bible for porn, but what if it was one of those crappy, cheap ones that you find in motels? Would it be okay then? If so, I would do it.

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Lol I honestly think it's terribly mean to trade them for porn. Seems like they're purposely trying to stir up the public and not in a way that's good for them.

While I was raised as a catholic, I am not a faithful church goer but I think that I reasonable enough to find some humor in this. I must also give them credit for creativity despite the fact that they ripped off the idea.

[quote=coasterlove] It's that the fact that people are there trying to diminish what others believe and if you think about what they're doing, it's quite insulting. [/quote]

In no way am I attacking you, but I must say, religion has been doing exactly what you said above for thousands of years. When's the last time a war was fought for pornography? When's the last time pornography has wreaked genocide on a race of people? Never. Yet, religion has.

Of the two, I'd take my chances with pornography dictating people's lifestyles over religion any day .

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[Edit-to Coaster Freak] Your last sentence was a contradiction. It can't be creative but also a ripoff of someone else's idea.

Thunderhawk, I'm not making a comparison between religion and pornography. And yes wars have been fought over religion but I don't remember Christianity being involved recently so I don't see the point in the arguement. As for porn, while wars may not have been started because of it, a case could be made for how many lives it helped ruin. From those involved directly to those who become addicted to it.

....so now if you'll excuse me, I have some [I]reading[/I] to do. Where's my Playboy?

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This is as bad as attacking the Bible as it gets. They've hit rock bottom. At least they did not include a toy as well.

The frequency of natural disasters the last two years has made me half seriously think the Big Man has some beef with us humans.

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I am a Catholic but just to clear something up. I don't think it is the end of the world. I just felt like fooling around.

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[QUOTE] Originally Posted by [B]Sarmad[/B]
[I]I am a very religious Catholic, and I am beginning to believe this the end of the world. I mean flooding, earthquakes, and now this, just like the bible states, it's revelation. Ahhh... I hope I am wrong.[/I]
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Be very careful....Catholic teaching does not go the "End Times" route. Jesus Himself said no one can predict the time of His coming. The End Times began the day He left. Study history....the signs in Revelation have been with us from the get-go. The signs are to remind us, especially in this season of Advent, to ALWAYS be ready.

That's why I believe in the [URL="http://www.venganza.org"]Flying Spagetti Monster[/URL] :D

Back on subject though, it's not like these people were forcing others to turn in their Bibles, they were practicing their right to free speech, which is their right in America. Likewise, if a church wanted to do something similar (i.e. trade in porn for bibles) then that is their right.

My question is (which has been posed all ready), why is atheism promoting their views and trying to convince others not okay; and Christianity doing the same thing (missions and missionaries) okay? Personally, I think both are somewhat annoying. At the same time though, as long as they're not (physically) hurting anybody, or being overly mallicious about it, I don't have a problem with them doing it.

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