Gamecube Failed Big Time - Page 3

Kyle L · #61 01-18-2006, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim

It seems like these discussions are never proven one way or another. It's ALWAYS subjective. What I think is a failure someone else thinks is great. What they think is great, I think is terrible. It comes down to personal preference. For me I like Cube the best, then PS2, then Xbox.

There are some great games on Xbox, my favorites being ironically enough, all from Sega... GunValkyrie, Jet Set Radio Future, and Panzer Dragoon Orta.

I bought my PS2 specifically for Gran Turismo 3 and was not disappointed. Other PS2 favorites include Sly Cooper and Rez.

My Cube gets the most playing time by a longshot though. I consistently go back to Super Monkey Ball 2 and Bomberman Generations. Right now I'm playing Resident Evil 4 and Metroid Prime 2.

I like to play games with other people and I think the GameCube has the most fun 4-player games.

Whatever happened to Rez? I wanted to buy it one day but couldn't find it.

epijlh · #62 01-18-2006, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Montu Man

PS2 defiantly rules the US market, at least in home consoles. They own over 50% of the market.

where did you get those numbers cause' they aren't right. I got my 78% from nintendo so i know it is right so ps2 can't hold the entire vg market, but it probably is close to 50% in home consoles. It is not possible for them to hold 50% overall because sony doesn't make any games AT ALL and they lost a boatload of money with the ps2. besides, the only things that thay have to make money in the US vg market is the PSP and the PS2.

Montu Man · #63 01-18-2006, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by epijlh

where did you get those numbers cause' they aren't right. I got my 78% from nintendo so i know it is right so ps2 can't hold the entire vg market, but it probably is close to 50% in home consoles. It is not possible for them to hold 50% overall because sony doesn't make any games AT ALL and they lost a boatload of money with the ps2. besides, the only things that thay have to make money in the US vg market is the PSP and the PS2.

Isn't it odd how lots of video game websites say PS2 owns over 50% of the home console market? I do not think it is worth it to go and pull them up for you, but you are always welcome to share your knowlegeable facts. You also say you got the facts from Nintendo, which makes the information unreliable. Of course they will say stuff like that.

coasterlove · #64 01-19-2006, 02:13 AM

I don't think Nintendo is unreliable with any information they gave out. I think it's more likely that epijlh confused what was said or is misquoting them. I'm a Nintendo fanboy and while I don't like to admit it, Sony and their PS2 does dominate the console market. I forget exact numbers but I believe that the PS2 outsold both the Xbox and Gamecube combined in the US market.

However, the "78%" figure that has been thrown around could be true if it spoke of a specific time frame. Although that would not mean that Nintendo has 78% of the market no more than Glory Road is the biggest movie of all time just because it was the #1 movie this last weekend. That's why I'd have to read the actual info or articile where this 78% number came from and how it was phrased.

rjholla2003 · #65 01-19-2006, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by HPInsane

No, they're sitting quite well, despite the DS/SP/Micro sales. Microsoft and Playstation both have lost money. Believe it or not, Sony blew a lot of money during the R and D phase of the PS2. That's why I expect the PS3 to do much better, because they didn't need to spend as much money on PS3 as they did on PS2. The original plan was PS3 would actually be PS2.

You're misunderstanding me. I'm not saying that Nintendo is doing well on the money side, because anyone who pays a little bit of attention to the gaming scene (which I admittedly don't keep up with as much as I used to) knows that it is doing best when it comes to making a profit on console sales alone. I'm referring to the market share. Who moved the most units period. When it comes to those numbers, Nintendo is last in the US.

Tim · #66 01-19-2006, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle L

Whatever happened to Rez? I wanted to buy it one day but couldn't find it.

It's very rare, but it is still in some used game stores. I bought the only new copy that my local GameStop had.

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Originally Posted by rjholla2003

You're misunderstanding me.... I'm referring to the market share. Who moved the most units period. When it comes to those numbers, Nintendo is last in the US.

That's absolutely correct. In the US, the GameCube is in the number 3 spot. I don't have the exact numbers in front of me but in the US home console market it's something like 55% PS2, 26% Xbox, 19% GameCube.

epijlh · #67 01-19-2006, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by coasterlove

I don't think Nintendo is unreliable with any information they gave out. I think it's more likely that epijlh confused what was said or is misquoting them. I'm a Nintendo fanboy and while I don't like to admit it, Sony and their PS2 does dominate the console market. I forget exact numbers but I believe that the PS2 outsold both the Xbox and Gamecube combined in the US market.

However, the "78%" figure that has been thrown around could be true if it spoke of a specific time frame. Although that would not mean that Nintendo has 78% of the market no more than Glory Road is the biggest movie of all time just because it was the #1 movie this last weekend. That's why I'd have to read the actual info or articile where this 78% number came from and how it was phrased.

To quote the article from nintendo.com "Nintendo's 15 years of unsurpassed leadership in portable video gaming continued unabated through the 2005 holiday season. Sales figures show that Nintendo's dual-screened Nintendo DS, fueled by hit software and new global Wi-Fi capability, has sold approximately 4 million units to date in North America alone. Combined with Game Boy Advance, the world's most popular portable video game line, Nintendo now enjoys a combined U.S. market share of 78 percent." it may seem like the 78% precent was just for handhelds, but if you would read the entire article it suggests otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Tim

That's absolutely correct. In the US, the GameCube is in the number 3 spot. I don't have the exact numbers in front of me but in the US home console market it's something like 55% PS2, 26% Xbox, 19% GameCube.

yup. that sounds about right. no, honesly, it does. and i'm not being scarcastic. just because nintendo is leading profit wise doesn't mean that it has the most consoles out there.

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Originally Posted by Montu Man

Isn't it odd how lots of video game websites say PS2 owns over 50% of the home console market? I do not think it is worth it to go and pull them up for you, but you are always welcome to share your knowlegeable facts. You also say you got the facts from Nintendo, which makes the information unreliable. Of course they will say stuff like that.

50% console market? yes. 50% total market? no. I thought that you ment the total US market, not just consoles.

coasterlove · #68 01-20-2006, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by epijlh

To quote the article from nintendo.com "Nintendo's 15 years of unsurpassed leadership in portable video gaming continued unabated through the 2005 holiday season. Sales figures show that Nintendo's dual-screened Nintendo DS, fueled by hit software and new global Wi-Fi capability, has sold approximately 4 million units to date in North America alone. Combined with Game Boy Advance, the world's most popular portable video game line, Nintendo now enjoys a combined U.S. market share of 78 percent." it may seem like the 78% precent was just for handhelds, but if you would read the entire article it suggests otherwise.

Ok and after reading the quote you pulled from Nintendo, it sounds exactly like they're specifically talking about the handheld market. Even the first sentence of the quote mentions their leadership in portable gaming. It doesn't mention anything about consoles. There is no way that Nintendo holds 78% of the total gaming market if that includes consoles in the figure. There is no way. I'm a Nintendo fanboy so believe me, I wish they did, they just simply don't.

Martin · #69 01-24-2006, 06:54 AM

I am a PS2 guy, but I was in Best Buy with my friend on Saturday, and we started playing Super Mario Strikers. We must have played 10 games before we stopped. I must say Nintendo has some addicting games, but nothing of the quality of games for consoles such as Xbox and PS2. It seems as if Nintendo tragets more towards younger kids.

Tim · #70 01-25-2006, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by G_Adv_123

I am a PS2 guy, but I was in Best Buy with my friend on Saturday, and we started playing Super Mario Strikers. We must have played 10 games before we stopped. I must say Nintendo has some addicting games, but nothing of the quality of games for consoles such as Xbox and PS2. It seems as if Nintendo tragets more towards younger kids.

This statement doesn't make any sense to me. First, you obviously had fun playing it because you played 10 games before you knew it. Then you say they have no quality games because they're targeted towards kids.

Hmm. You liked the game, but it sounds to me like you're embarrassed because you think you're too mature to be having fun playing video games that don't involve any blood.

Martin · #71 01-25-2006, 07:34 PM

Yes, I did enjoy playing the game on Saturday with nothing else to do. We were orignally headed to Starbucks, but hopped into Best Buy to see if any of the console stations were free. We got on to the available Gamecube and did have a nice time.

Oh yes you are completely correct about that one Tim, I am too mature to play those kinds of games since they don't contain any blood or violence.

How about a game which involves a giant monkey, DK I believe, throwing giant banana peels on the field. Now Tim, if you don't think that is targeted toward younger kids then I don't know what to say.

I enjoyed playing the game, but I would prefer either sports games, or first and third person shooters.

coasterlove · #72 01-26-2006, 01:02 AM

It was wrong for someone to make an assumption of the games you like but a fun game is a fun game. So just because a game has Donkey Kong in it and seems aimed at kids doesn't mean that older teens or adults couldn't enjoy it. I'm not sure if the game you were talking about is Mario Kart DS but that's a great game. I think that Nintendo unfortunately does have this kiddie image and it does hurt them a lot with many older gamers.

rlrcstrfreak · #73 01-26-2006, 01:38 AM

I don't really care if camecube failed, well atleat here. It might have done better in the asian countries. I still love the controllers, and i have to say, I like its little compact look. THe games are a bit kiddish, well, most of them.. like sponge bob, and jsut that type. I think, that the game cube did pretty good, but it didnt do EXCELENT. The PS2 slapped Nintendo with all its RPGs, but other then the lack of great games, I think the game cube is a good console.

Martin · #74 01-26-2006, 05:52 AM

Coasterlove, the game I was talking about was Super Mario Strikers. No doubt older kids and adults can enjoy the game as well. It just seemed as if younger kids were their target.

HPInsane · #75 10-13-2008, 09:00 PM

Wii is just a souped up Gamecube - so it's greater success is in its successor.

I am much better at Super Smash Bros. Melee and Mario Kart Wii using the GameCube controller than the Wiimote or steering wheel with the Wiimote.

Racer · #76 10-14-2008, 08:21 PM

1st- I don't think that the Game Cube was a failure.
2nd- The Wii is not a souped up Game Cube, that would be like saying XBOX 360 isn't the sequel to the first XBOX.
3rd- Way to go, you revived a two-year-old thread.

apsterling · #77 10-14-2008, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Racer

1st- I don't think that the Game Cube was a failure.
2nd- The Wii is not a souped up Game Cube, that would be like saying XBOX 360 isn't the sequel to the first XBOX.
3rd- Way to go, you revived a two-year-old thread.

Gamecube uses a 485 MHz IBM "Gekko" PowerPC CPU based on the PowerPC 750CXe core. Wii uses a PowerPC-based "Broadway" processor which is reportedly clocked at 729 MHz. The Wii uses 88 MB main memory, whereas the cube uses 43 MB total memory. They both have 3mb texture memory. The Wii has an ATI "Hollywood" GPU reportedly clocked at 243 MHz, and the Cube had a 162 MHz "Flipper" GPU.

Basically, the Wii is higher speed and capability of the Wii, with Bluetooth, USB, Wifi and internal memory.

Source: Wikipedia.org

theswanz · #78 10-14-2008, 09:19 PM

The GameCube was far from a failure! It sold well and made Nintendo even more money. They didn't lose any money for Nintendo so its not a failure! Its made out to doing worse than it actually did!

raser · #79 10-19-2008, 07:00 PM

For game system failure look up Atari 5200...

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