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Old 09-25-2009, 07:35 PM
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An Aquaman splash down coaster is coming to SFOG?
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Old 09-25-2009, 07:56 PM
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Here is a news article with a video of the park cleaning up.
Six Flags to Open Four Days After Flooding - 11Alive.com | WXIA | Atlanta, GA
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Old 09-26-2009, 01:27 AM
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^I can see it now! I guess Six Flags doesn't realize just how deep GASM was under water. I'll give you a hint- it's at least 15 feet. There's no way they can get that much water out by Saturday.
In the past they simply shut down this section of the park and opened the rest.

I'm not surprised they moved the rides to higher ground. For the most part it will just be clean up and some restoration. Nothing terrible. The water is muddy not toxic so you won't have the problems seen at SFNO.
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Old 09-26-2009, 02:37 AM
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^^^I don't see it happening. Even if they did, half of their rides would be closed. Batman, Mindbender, Wheelie, GASM, Ninja, Thomas Town, and several more have all been under water for at least 8 days. Most of the rides that are under water have moving parts completely submerged. Clearing the water out will take about 2-3 days, then inspecting will take another day or two, then replacing damaged parts will take another day, then testing, and before you know it, it's next Tuesday.

There is a lot more water there than you guys think there is. Mindbender has at least 20 feet of water over it, Wheelie is completely submerged to the point where you can barely see it, and not to mention that the entire parking lot and I-20 are completely under about 10 feet of water.

They are going to have a major problem with GASM. With all of that wood being submerged, it is soaking up a ton of water, which will then cause the wood to swell up, cause the bolts to squeeze it and crack the wood. The entire station is under water, everything will need replacing; the trains, control panels, brakes, etc.
For you to have worked at SFOG you sure don't know alot about the rides. All of our coasters are built to withstand flooding far worse than what we experienced this past week. As a matter of fact I was at work yesterday and witnessed a small army of mechanics and electricians working on Ninja, Scream Machine and Wheelie. Ninja and Scream Machine in particular were given alot of attention. On a positive note around 7pm that night I heard one of the coasters warning horn sound. I couldn't tell if it was ninja or scream machine but they have definately made progress. Of course they didnt cycle any trains but the ride control systems were aparantely working.

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This rain has been going on for more than 8 days. Mindbender floods a lot. I'm not sure about Ninja. I know Deja Vu did when it was in the park.



More than that. I'll bet that parts of Cyclone, Scorcher, Dahlonega Mine Train, and more. Actually, the whole park's under water, with the exception of Carousel Hill. I guess this seals the Drive-In Theater's fate.

The bad part is that Douglas County got the worst of it. It's a good thing I'm not home right now, but my family got caught up in it and my bedroom got some water in it.

This reminds me of seeing SFNO under water.
Actually the front half of the park was not really affected. Cyclone, Scorcher and Mine Train are just fine. As a matter of fact they were testing Acrophobia yesterday.

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LOL. I love seeing the park flooded. I could see them opening by saturday because they don't really care how the parks look or how safe the rides are so i would not be the least bit suprised if it were open Sat.
As much training as I have had to go through at Six Flags I can't believe what I have read here. I can't begin to tell you how many classes and tests I have had to take before I could even step foot on a ride dock as an attendant not an operator but an attendant. Every ride is different and every ride has its own test not to mention the general tests that everyone has to take. We are very well trained and would never operate any ride that was unsafe. We perform safety checks at least twice a day as operators where we ride the rides listening for unusual noises, vibrations, smells, anything out of the ordinary. This is in addition to the testing the rides go through from the mechanics and electricians everyday before they are even given to us. If you on a ride espicially my ride trust that you are safe.

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Old 09-26-2009, 11:35 AM
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Ok, maybe it's just your park, but it's evident from SFKK that they weren't trained properly when it comes to E-Stop and catastrophic accidents. So, maybe Six Flags has a good program at one park and crappy at another? Shouldn't there be chain wide policies about training and paying attention to rides?

Oh, I guess not, instead of hitting E-Stop when a cable came loose they pick up the phone and call someone. And for that mistake a girl lost her feet. (She got one re-attached thank god).

So, please don't act all high and mighty to regular posters on here. You are the newbie, don't go spouting off saying someone is wrong because what they post.
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Old 09-26-2009, 06:21 PM
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^ We all know every Six Flags is different in many ways. I know you were trying to prove your point, but SFKK's incident has nothing to do with anything here- comparing SFKK to SFoG is like apples to oranges. Anyone at any park could be caught off-guard and not hit an E-Stop when neccessary... it happens at every chain- the station attendant could have killed the power to the monorail at WDW a few months ago and saved a life, but they weren't paying attention...

It's refreshing to me to see someone take pride and use professionalism in their work as a ride attendant.
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Old 09-26-2009, 06:25 PM
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Oh I completely agree when it comes to someone enjoying their work. But, as a company Six Flags is a scattered as any other company on the map. Not every park is consistent with policies, passes, parking, food, you name it.

At the same time, when someone jumps in on this site telling someone they don't know what they are talking about should really take a step back before posting the way he did. No one is perfect and not one park has it all.

I, myself, just want to see respect between members. New and old. That's how this site works and it will continue to work.

Does anyone know if the park opened today or is it still closed? If the park opened, what rides and things were still closed?
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Old 09-26-2009, 08:06 PM
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I would say that the park opened, but not for long since it stsrted to rain again. I don't know for sure though.
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Old 09-26-2009, 09:11 PM
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Racer was a very hospitable host when I came to visit SFOG so I would cut your co-worker a break. He did a very good job showing me a first timer the ins and outs of SFOG, even pointed out where Deja Vu's pieces lie from the view up on Acrophobia. He represents the park well.
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Old 09-26-2009, 10:43 PM
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Old 09-27-2009, 05:36 PM
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To put it truefully, Six Flags as a whole isnt doing good. They are the only park chain to file chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. And the fact that the New York Stock Exchange delisted Six Flags tells the story. I would have to say that Six Flags is the only major park chain to have so many accidents that are the parks fault. People think that they are so great, but ceo Mark Shapiro just doesnt care about giving money to parks for maintance. Hence why most rides arent being fixed so often. I did do research on the chapter 11 and the NYSE delist of Six Flags.
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Old 09-27-2009, 09:48 PM
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I wouldn't say that Shapiro does not care but the whole situation involved carefully management. How much of the entertainment sector do they hold? We kind of have to hold our breath for this chain. They're like a Bank of America, GM, or Wells Fargo in our country for rollercoasters. It sure did sound crappy to me that they were delisted. I read that and knew what was going on for quite a few years. Of course I felt very lucky to rake up almost all the parks in recent years. I want to see as many retain the name as possible especially the Pre-Premier core. I only have SFStL and SFGAM left to visit.
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Old 09-28-2009, 12:17 AM
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SFOG was open this weekend including GASM and the Ninja. The only section of the park that was closed this week was Lickskillet. The rides that were down were Skybuckets, Thomas Town, Thunder River, Splash, and Wheelie. Mindbender opened today as well which is saying alot considering the location of its computers. Conserning my comments towards racer I do tend to come off strong I appologise, no harm was inteded.

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Ok, maybe it's just your park, but it's evident from SFKK that they weren't trained properly when it comes to E-Stop and catastrophic accidents. So, maybe Six Flags has a good program at one park and crappy at another? Shouldn't there be chain wide policies about training and paying attention to rides?

Oh, I guess not, instead of hitting E-Stop when a cable came loose they pick up the phone and call someone. And for that mistake a girl lost her feet. (She got one re-attached thank god).

So, please don't act all high and mighty to regular posters on here. You are the newbie, don't go spouting off saying someone is wrong because what they post.
I'm not sure what the incident at SFKK has to do with anything I said however let me point out that there are situations that occur that they do not train you how to handle and you have to wing it. When they trained me on Acrophobia they were very clear on when to use e-stop (guest unbuckles seatbelt, cable breaks or slacks, guests run onto pad) just to name a few. I can say that when sh** happens it's very easy to panic and all that training goes out the window. I know it's happened to me before and I've seen or heard about it happening to others. Things happen it's a fact of life. I know on Acro theres a safety system called "Syronnization" it monitors the tension on the cables if one was to break or even if the wind blows to hard and causes one cable to take more of the load than the other three the ride will stop itself. I don't know why SFKK's drop tower didnt have that feature

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Old 09-28-2009, 08:04 AM
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I'm not sure what the incident at SFKK has to do with anything I said however let me point out that there are situations that occur that they do not train you how to handle and you have to wing it. When they trained me on Acrophobia they were very clear on when to use e-stop (guest unbuckles seatbelt, cable breaks or slacks, guests run onto pad) just to name a few. I can say that when sh** happens it's very easy to panic and all that training goes out the window. I know it's happened to me before and I've seen or heard about it happening to others. Things happen it's a fact of life. I know on Acro theres a safety system called "Syronnization" it monitors the tension on the cables if one was to break or even if the wind blows to hard and causes one cable to take more of the load than the other three the ride will stop itself. I don't know why SFKK's drop tower didnt have that feature
Let me just welcome you to TN, fjdollars2010. However, we don't allow double posting. I've merged your two posts into one to demonstrate how it's done. You should also pay attention to an earlier post you made, which has also been merged by another moderator.

Perhaps the fact that investigators of that incident at SFKK cited improper cables and improper maintenance should shed a clue why it "didn't have that feature," or it could have indeed not had that feature altogether.

I've worked on several rides at two parks, and each time, there is a specific time we are told we can use an e-stop, and how the e-stop behaves. Over and above that, we also had other specific procedures laid out in cases of emergency. Before we could even touch the controls in most cases, we had to take a visual board exam, and pass with only getting one or two wrong. However, at Michigan's Adventure, where I did my first bit of work, we didn't have the visuals, nor did we have a real operations manual like I got at Cedar Point (this was because the park was still being transitioned into the Cedar Fair way of operations). That, I believe, all came in subsequent seasons. Still, we got a lot of the aforementioned information and training.

However, in my observations and reports from others, there have been lots of inconsistency in operations between Six Flags parks. Some seem to run decent, but then some are lax, especially in terms of supervision and training. That is why you hear of some cases of operators too busy on their cells txting or not paying attention to things. Plus, you've had cases where their actions have indirectly led to the deaths of people (such as the Superman: ROS incident at SFNE), when a man should not have been allowed to ride due to his girth and inability to properly secure himself was allowed to do so with minimal checking of his restraints and such... he was thrown off toward the end of the ride and was killed.
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:08 AM
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It could depend by state regulation/labor departments too. Here in NJ I've heard the operators say "Visual scan" during loading cycles all season but not in other parks in other states.

I'm really encouraged to hear GASM was back at SFOG.
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Same here about the Screamer. Its the main reason I'd like to one day visit the park.
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Good to hear the park was open and so much was open in the park.
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