12-01-2005, 10:44 AM
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| | | December 2005 Unofficial NoLimits Contest
This month's contest is about making a non-inverting coaster. Some unknown amusement park is looking for a tall non-inverting steel roller coaster to attract thrill-seekers from all over the world. You are challenged to make the ultimate coaster for the park. There are no financial restrictions, and you can use as many ground as you like. - Track must be steel, you can choose any of the following track types: Corkscrew Coaster, Hyper Coaster 2 Seat, Hyper Coaster 4 Seat, LIM Launched Coaster, Vekoma Motorbike Coaster.
- Vertical G's between -1.5 and +5
- Lateral G's between -1.5 and 1.5
- Exactly one station
- Either exactly one lift, no launch. Keep lift hill speed under 20mph
- Minimum height 250 ft = 76.2 m.
- Minimum length 5,000 ft = 1,524 m.
- No inversions are allowed. Anything banked over 135.000001 degrees is considered an inversion. For this contest, banking is only counted at Vertices.
- Minimum 2 trains
- Must pass E-stop
- Terrain is not allowed
- Trees are allowed, but will not be judged
- 3ds are allowed, but will not be judged and the ride should work without them (i.e. not depend on 3ds for supporting)
- Maximum drop angle is 90 degrees
The park will judge the ride on - Building Technique such as G-forces, smoothness, blocking, supports, track shaping.
- How fun the ride is
- Original or unique ideas
This is an unofficial contest, there is no prize. The deadline is December 31, 11:59 Eastern Time (US). Let your creativity flow and make something of it. In the first week of January, we hope to get decided which of the coasters the park will choose, and which are second and third. Use this thread for questions.
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12-01-2005, 04:58 PM
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| | | Is there a specific limit on angle of descent to be considered an inversion? |
12-02-2005, 02:35 AM
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| | Why do you ask such a difficult question? 
Let's say the limit is a 90 degree drop angle (i.e. vertical). Because, anything over it will have a very small section which is officially banked 180 degrees, which would officially count as an inversion. 
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12-02-2005, 03:14 AM
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| | | Ok that's all I needed to know. Thanks! :-D |
12-02-2005, 09:41 PM
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| | | Sweet! A contest to enter my new coaster into!
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12-03-2005, 12:12 AM
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| | | I have a coaster similar to that but its not quite tall enough for the contest, so I'll have to go with a new coaster if I get time to piece one together. Your supports look great though, I still have yet to dig deeply into custom supports. |
12-03-2005, 12:50 AM
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| | | Is there a maximum lift hill speed?
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12-03-2005, 09:14 AM
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| | Make it a lift hill with reasonable speed. As long as it isn't a launch, then it's okay. Just don't make a 40 mph "lift"
EDIT: Keep lift hill speed under 20 mph.
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12-03-2005, 02:30 PM
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| | | When you mean banking over 135 degrees is counted as an inversion, does that mean 135 degrees and more or 136 degrees and more? |
12-03-2005, 02:40 PM
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| | | Im pretty sure he meant over 135, so 135 is acceptable but 136 is not.
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12-04-2005, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Tanks4me05 When you mean banking over 135 degrees is counted as an inversion, does that mean 135 degrees and more or 136 degrees and more? | If you are unsure about one degree? Please just make your banking 134 degrees and be sure it's safe? Why doing difficult about one degree? 
It's very simple. NoLimits' banking angles can't be exact, 134.999658 degrees is ok, 135.000437 is not.
And if you really insist on having 135 degrees, then yes it's ok. But jeez... 
Especially for you, I have changed it in the rules post
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12-04-2005, 09:47 AM
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| | | The one thing that's bothering me is the beyond vertical drops. Could we please make beyond vertical drops? 90 degrees is rather limiting. |
12-04-2005, 12:38 PM
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| | | Limiting!?!? You dont need to go beyond 90 for thrill, look at Millennium Force, every Schwarzkopf ever, and Nitro
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12-04-2005, 12:48 PM
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| | | I understand that but I'd prefer beyond 90 degree drops. |
12-04-2005, 06:42 PM
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| | Just leave it be Matt, I've had to settle for 90° so should everyone else.
As far as banking on a vertical track, would TTD's 270° spiral be considered an inversion? It's banked past 135.000001°
Edit: That 250ft minimum, that's based on the grid in the editor, correct? Has nothing to do with the top of the lift to the bottom of the hill?
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