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Six Flags Magic Mountain announced that they will get a new family coaster in 2010. I believe it will be located near Terminator. A name is not given yet.

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It's going between Deja Vu and the Cyclone Bay Johnny Rockets location. It will be adjacent to Roaring Rapids.

I hope they will save the trees there then. I need to look this up on the map because I know a Deja Vu overflow queue went across a service road. That road hugs Deja Vu.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...04823&t=h&z=18

Old map. Psyclone is still there.

So much for my idea of digging up the asphalt: the concrete drainage ditch goes straight through there.

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Here's where the coaster is going in...while I think most of the foliage will be ripped out, it will eventually grow back within a few years.

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Did anyone else read a little lower on that page? SFMM's Goliath stole SFOG's tagline of A Giant Among Coasters.

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Hadn't caught that.

Given this might be a Tony hawk , Pandemonium style attraction I can't say I'm jumping for joy. the coasters capacity isn't great for a medium attendance park like SFNE SFMM is way too big for it.

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You mean Six Flags Over Georgia's Goliath stole it from Magic Mountain? Not just the slogan, but also its colors and name.

Magic Mountain has been using "The Giant Among Giants" since it opened in 2000, then "A Giant Among Coasters" even before the Georgia one opened in 2006.

MIchael, it's SFMM's turn to be disappointed with a once thought untouchable low capacity coaster. SFGADV got the Dark Knight in 2008. I thought we were too special for that at first. At least it wasn't a boomerang.

Not sure how much you can trust the Wikipedia but recently I was surprised to learn of a Vekoma small family coaster that was at SFNO. I thought I knew of all their coasters until this popped up:
"The Road Runner Express (Vekoma Junior Coaster 207M) (Since removed by Six Flags to be placed in another park)"

That would be a great addition.

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I understand the “catering to family” mentality, so I suppose this decision makes sense, but I feel the park continues to ignore key reasons families aren’t frequent visitors to the park.

Parents don't want to bring their kids to a park where they start the day by spending $15 on parking, then sit in trams that rattle like they’re going to fall apart. Parents don’t want to bring their kids to a park where operations are mundane, where bathrooms are old and dirty, where the atmosphere has much to be desired and where teenagers are swearing and cutting in line.

To bring families in all of these things need to be dealt with, and that comes hand in hand with improving security, spending money where you won't see profits, and improving employee morale.

It seems they’re never going to learn that installing rides, targeted for teens or families, will NOT bring more people into the park over the long run, especially if these kinds of issues happen repeatedly to guests (and especially families) during a day at the park.

Every time I go to the park, I see too much unruly behavior and hear too much inappropriate language by crappy guests that goes unnoticed by park employees. It doesn't matter how many family rides you add, these "unruly" bunch of guests are still going to show up to go on the big rides. Finding ways to keep them under control and letting them know they will get thrown out if they act uncivilized is the only way to keep them under raps. Once families see a change in park atmosphere, once they experience it firsthand, they will start to trickle back. But it must be a change that is permanent and stays consistent over a long period of time.

There are SO many ways to get families into the park, and hoping they'll show up by adding a coaster that little kids can ride is not the way to go about it.

^ You can do all of those things, and still add new rides. It doesn't have to be one or the other.

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^Agreed. New rides will always bring in the crowds.

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I Wonder if it will be a Gerstlaurer LSM Family Launch Coaster? or a Zamperla MotoCoaster?

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^^Yeah, maybe for a season or two...but that's the exact same asinine thinking that got the company into this debt mess in the first place. We've all seen what happens when the park does nothing but add rides every year or so, and I doubt a "kiddie ride" is going to cause any major increase in attendance during Summer 2010.

Ummm, hahaha. Your optimistic attitude is admirable, and I wish it was that way...but no! You can't!

All of those park improvements require MONEY. It costs MONEY to refurbish trams, pave roads, increase security, re-do bathrooms and improve the parks atmosphere. There's something called a budget that limits spending and divides funds between priorities, and obviously Magic Mountain's priorities are new attractions year after year. Six Flags is tightening its belt on expenses and there's no possible way they can do all of those things and still add new rides. Its one or the other...Tim and Jay have said it themselves.

I really think the park needs to work on their image to the general public in order to improve the caliber and attitudes of guests at the park, families or not. Furthermore, if the park is aiming to bring in families, this ride alone ain't gonna do it over the long haul.

So they have to put more gas on the pedal to advertise Thomas Town and the new coaster, tying it all into a family image? I wouldn't mind some more ACME themed flats. I think the point was to just accept we're clearly third place in the region? What really is the remedy for growth that's going to rake in the dough? Families are cash king. Just thinking about Sesame Street's 40th anniversary today I posted a video on FB of Sesame Place's solid (Grover's)Vapor Trail coaster. I thought I sold an arm still for what I considered a bargain ticket that included a buffet to get in to ride the coaster when the demographic target of the park was clearly not towards me. Vapor Trail physically stood 10 years and is literally the closest credit to me but it took me those 10 years to get it last year.

Just like Gilroy Gardens doesn't get much mention, Sesame Place doesn't get much as well. I should just post this for the sake of letting you guys know about this overlooked park out of our primary demographic in the Northeast.

An interesting twist would be if they used a recycled Vekoma.

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It's going to be a slow process unfortunately, but it absolutely can be done (but probably not in this current climate). Still, I think Tim and Jay are doing the best they can with what they have to work with. The park looks clean, the rides are open running multiple trains and the employees are friendlier. Besides, who's to say that if they chose not to add a new ride, that money would automatically go into other areas of the park? Most likely, it would simply go into another park's ride. lol

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Granite Park in Fresno, California failed to take off the ground. They have the Lightning Bolt coaster they got from the MGM in Las Vegas just sitting in pieces. That's available.

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Thank you for that diatribe of "self-righteous" indingation.

THAT...is why this theme park is in dire straits. When relatives of mine pay a visit to SFMM from Pennslyvania/Georgia it's not the "caliber & attitudes" of the patrons that they complain about the most. The dissatisfaction I keep hearing from them is with the poor upkeep of restrooms, the dilapidated monorail track, antiquated carny & kiddy rides...&, above all else, too many "big" stuff & too few "small" stuff. It's true that the stigma of being associated with gangbangers still persists however that image can only be assuaged AFTER the management changes their focus from the "hip & edgy" demographic.

Uh...let me clear up some things. Since the park was bought in 1979 by Six Flags, Inc. Magic Mountain has become increasingly hostile to small children. Most, if not all, of the carny & kiddy rides haven't changed much since their installation in the 70's & 80's...roller coasters being the exception of course. Now...that sort of façade alteration was done for Thomas Town. The zone consists of really only one brand new attraction, a gift shop & a transplanted roller coaster built in 1946. And the accountants wonder why Thomas Town wasn't a smashing success...& why The Wiggles World addition was supposedly scrapped. It's a damn shame SFMM didn't copy Thomas Land at Drayton Manor.

Like...that junior coaster model SBNO over at SFNO?

The Coaster will Supposedly have a "Mr. Six" Theme.

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^Boooooooo.

I hope the they don't include the patented "Six Flags Cardboard Cutouts" they've been littering on the Tony Hawk spinner coasters...man do they look horrible.

Nothing says "family coaster" like cheap theming!

SFNE's Pandemonium only had one on the top.

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^^Oh, I've definitely noticed stuff like that. SFGADV's Dark Knight, had it been done right, would have not been better than somewhat decent. First off, the pre-show areas desperately needed sound absorbing materials in the walls so I could actually hear the pre-show. They also needed that near the end of the queue line where the honking truck was. (They should have placed the truck at one of the turns on the "bottom level" of track.)

Also, when you got on the ride and started going, you could see all the effects. It was cheap. It would have been much better if the whole ride was in a tunnel so to speak, so you could only see the scenery that was directly coming up.

^Meh, its Six Flags.

Theres so many things that have potential, but for some reason there's never anybody that works there that goes "this could be fixed to do this and it'd be totally better!" I've tried, I've worked there. Nobody gives a crap. I ended up being the only guy that cared, and I got singled out and ridiculed for it...

That being said, lets hope Magic Mountain doesn't get suckered the same way...but the way things have been going, ehhhh...

On a side note of 2010 "related" stuff, Goliath is receiving a fresh coat of paint right now. It's nice to see the new management taking care of things like this --- as where under Kieran Burke & Gary Story and Del Holland as the park's manager, Magic Mountain never repainted ANYTHING. Sure, they could be painting a lot more, but it's good older rides are getting some aesthetic TLC.

2006 - Sky Tower
2007 - Ninja repaint
2008 - X2, Viper, and Percy's Railway repaint
2009 - Deja Vu and Goliath repaint

I like the power of the chain working with that firm to get this painting task done the last few seasons. It's really roped in the upkeep at all the parks. Even Chang got the love. With the chain's situation the last few seasons this is one way to wiggle through it all: improvements within.

I'll be interested in the SFMM locals updating on which shade of blue. I heard about a light blue but it could be the primer first. I was really impressed even other than coasters at SFGADV got repainted recently. Our parachute drop ride got a red, yellow, orange paint scheme in season and added "Six Flags" letters. Impressive and the future looks good for that ride.

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Sky Trek Tower at SFGAm got Repainted Dark Blue with "SIX FLAGS", The Red Cabin got repainted White, and The Top Got Repainted Red.

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Looks like the rumors of the Roadrunner Express from SFNO are true. Great idea. A fun little coaster for the kids and they don't have to spend money on it other than construction costs. So all that complaining about SFMM spending money are *yet* another coaster instead of improvements to the park were unfounded.

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^Ugggh...that hurts.

A clone of the Gadget coaster? Are you kidding me?

I'll admit, I'm a bred and born Cali kid, and my ego gets the best of me...I feel like we deserve better, and if this rumor ends up being true, I think this is disappointing. I don't need a huge new coaster, but I feel like this park could have used something to appeal to a wider audience.

But maybe, and that's a BIG maybe, we'll see some improvements around the park being funded from them not dropping millions on a coaster. That's fine with me...but I'd love to see some dramatic improvements, and I don't know how much is really gonna change.

I so called it awhile ago a few days after the first announcement. I wasn't surprised given the nature of Chang moving, Medusa getting repainted and rebranded as Bizarro, the general condition of the company. This model is a good bridge til 2011. We're hoping they have something for the 50th Anniversary, that they have the money to cover an attraction to properly honor 2011.

We still have to wait for an official release. Another site posted it being the SFNO model.

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