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Old 08-24-2005, 10:53 PM
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Exclamation Cedar point: 2006 Attraction

Here is my thought. I've heard that CP may still be in the works for a coaster for 2006. With Demon Drop on the market many think what can go in that area. The new intamin ball coaster can. It would fit perfect and it would be a awesome site from the parking lot. This sounds to me like something CP would do. Share your thoughts and any rumors u here except the really stupid rumors that will never happen.
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Old 08-24-2005, 11:34 PM
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Never heard of this Intamin ball coaster can. Could you maybe post some pics?
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Old 08-24-2005, 11:42 PM
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They are around some german site I think?? Im sure somebody around here has a link. As for cedar points next major coaster is really up in the air right now.
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Old 08-24-2005, 11:53 PM
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I think they'll stay away from Intamin for a while, or at least purchase a product that is at least proven to work most of the time. I have seen this Ball Coaster, and if I can remember correctly, it isn't anything like X, at least in how it operates. From what I can remember it had a motor on the train that rotated the seats. I could very well be wrong though. They made a prototype and it was a simple kidney bean shaped track. It was painted red and looked pretty good, except the ride duration was like 7 seconds. lol.
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:35 AM
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I really don't think CPs next coaster will be a Intamin...They've gotten Intamin coasters for their past 3 coasters, I think it's time for the park to move on and add a littler variety to the park.
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:42 AM
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The park is definitly having issues with Intamin right now. Between the ridiculous lack of structural integrity for the spikes on Wicked Twister (they had to reinforce them with those extra yellow supports, and I think nearly every other impulse coaster has also been reinforced), and the transformer blwing out every year putting the ride down for nearly a month each time(which they actually just fixed and the ride is running faster than usual!!!) and the disaster, that was but is less and less, for Top Thrill, I really don't think they are going to look at Intamin. As for the DD site, that ride starting falling apart this year. It has been a mechanical nightmare for about the last month and a half. I think they just got fed up, and said "sell it"!! I don't think they have anything in mind for that spot yet, but who knows. They could come up with something pretty darn fast, so I also would not be surprised if a new ride appeared there. I just don't think that they are selling DD just to make way for a ride is all.
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Old 08-25-2005, 02:47 AM
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The 2006 ride (or rides) will not be a coaster... that's pretty much been confirmed. From what I've heard, the next coaster will also definately not be an Intamin.
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Old 08-25-2005, 03:19 AM
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/\ What I've heard so far is that a full-fledged 40-seater S&S Screaming Swing will make its way into the park come next season - one of the two 40-seat models that S&S has sold for the 2006 year along with the slightly smaller 32-seat versions going into Kennywood and two other parks come next Spring.

However, I don't know and haven't heard any talk or speculation about what else the park plans to do, if there will be other additions alongside the Screaming Swing ride.
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Like I said in another thread, I know a guy that plans Kennywood's ACE events and he was talking about how when he talked to S&S's marketing department how there will be only two 32 seat models being sold for the 2006 season (Kennywood and Lake Compounce) so Chris you are wrong about that, but you are correct that there are two 40 seat models being installed at two parks somewhere. My guess is that Valleyfair and another park in the Cedar Fair chain will be receving them, possibly even Geauga Lake. I just don't see Cedar Point installing a ride that another park in the chain is also getting, it's just not like them unless it's bigger and badder. I'm hoping that the park installs a different kind of HUSS ride in the park next season, possibly even a JUMP 2.
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Old 08-25-2005, 11:14 AM
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^Bigger and Badder? But that's what Kingda Ka was of TTD, and you hate it.
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Old 08-25-2005, 12:21 PM
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I just don't think that they are selling DD just to make way for a ride is all.
I agree. Because they are in no hurry to sell it (and if they don't sell it they say they are going to keep it), I think it's going for other reasons (most likely mechanical, and maybe to free up that space for an unplanned future ride).
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Old 08-25-2005, 03:50 PM
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^Bigger and Badder? But that's what Kingda Ka was of TTD, and you hate it.
What? I think your reading my post wrong...What I mean is I don't think Cedar Point would get the same ride as another coaster in the park unless it's a bigger model so to speak. If Valleyfair got a 40 seat Screamin Swing, I don't think Cedar Point would get one only because they aren't known for putting in the same rides other parks in the chains have. If they weren't that way, don't you think CP would have already installed a Riptide ride or have seen one of the other Cedar Fair LP parks get a Giant Frisbee? All I'm saying is if Valleyfair gets the 40 seat model, I think Geauga Lake or some other park in the chain is going to get it. Cedar Point will probably get a ride that none of the parks in the chain have already.
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Old 08-25-2005, 04:13 PM
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^Exactly, they wouldn't get another Screamin Swing for CP unless it was a bigger version (taller possibly) then all the rest. Well that's what KK was of TTD, bigger and taller, but nearly the same.
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What does KK have anything to do with this...Nowhere did I mention KK, so why do you keep bringing it up?
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Old 08-25-2005, 06:30 PM
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Yeah, EastCoastn is talking about WITHIN the chain. As in, Cedar Fair most likely wouldn't build a MaxAir at Knott's or a TTD at Dorney because they don't like to have copies of rides (flat or not) within the chain.
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EastCoastn, what makes you think Valleyfair! is getting a 40-seat Screamin' Swing? You talk as if one of them is already going into another Cedar Fair park next season, thus ruling out Cedar Point in installing one. Did you not think that aside from Cedar Point's 40-seater Screaming Swing, that another non-Cedar Fair park in the U.S. is putting one in next year?

And your theory about Cedar Point not building similar rides (unless it's bigger) that can be found at its sister parks is laughing matter. You are assuming they don't do it, but they do and they have done so in the past. The Chance Chaos that was the new thrillride in 1997 can be found at other Cedar Fair parks. The park's Snake River Falls shoot-the-chute opened in '93 as the tallest water ride in the world, but Dorney Park did too as well, with an exact clone - White Water Landing. Power Tower opened May of '98 as the tallest ride of its kind in the world, then only two months later was eclipsed in height by sister park Knott's Berry Farm's Supreme Scream.

And the reason why Cedar Point tends to go bigger with attractions is because they have the real estate to do so. Try and see if Knott's could have fit a Giant Frisbee into their property. NOT POSSIBLE. That's why they went with the Chance Revolution 32. It's not a matter of stereotyped park habits, but more about space.

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Old 08-25-2005, 08:00 PM
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EastCoastn, what makes you think Valleyfair! is getting a 40-seat Screamin' Swing? You talk as if one of them is already going into another Cedar Fair park next season, thus ruling out Cedar Point in installing one. Did you not think that aside from Cedar Point's 40-seater Screaming Swing, that another non-Cedar Fair park in the U.S. is putting one in next year?
Ask Drewbie, he's the one saying that Valleyfair is getting the 40 seat model next year, I'm only making that assumption based off what he has said. Heck, how do we even know if Cedar Point is getting one eithe? We don't, I'm just taking a guess is there something wrong with that. All I know is that there are two 40 seat models going into parks next season, the parks were not disclosed but from how Drewbie is saying Valleyfair is most likely getting one, I thought that was one of the parks getting it. He could be wrong though, and Cedar Point could land one for next season, but theres absolutely no leads as to what CP is getting, so why don't we all wait a few weeks when an announcement will be made.
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Old 08-25-2005, 09:41 PM
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What does KK have anything to do with this...Nowhere did I mention KK, so why do you keep bringing it up?
Him bringing it up? Yeah he brought it up in this thread, but you aways seem to bring it up in some Gadv thread. 2006 Gadv Coaster Construction, cough.

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...I mean, they did a really good job ripping off TTD for last years coaster (Kingda Ka)...
Yup, that started the fun in that thread.
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Old 08-25-2005, 09:47 PM
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yeah , i always find it comical. Eastcoastn in every post bashes six flags it seems like. I am a CP fanboy but i don't ever bash any park.
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Old 08-25-2005, 10:51 PM
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So, do you guys think that the ball coaster will be a fun ride when or if you ever get a chance to ride it when its placed at a theme park?
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Old 08-25-2005, 11:00 PM
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I persoanlly think it will be awesome. I love the design of it hope to see some great layouts soon in parks.

Not sure how popular it will be but hopefully a few parks will pick one up.
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Old 08-25-2005, 11:25 PM
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I think that ball coaster looks awsome, but I think the capacity may be a little low on them. I can forsee extremely long waits.
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Old 08-26-2005, 01:01 AM
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yeah , i always find it comical. Eastcoastn in every post bashes six flags it seems like. I am a CP fanboy but i don't ever bash any park.
All my posts bashing Six Flags? Think again, I would never give that much attention to the Six Flags threads. Besides the point, I might actually like Six Flags seeing how Premier is leaving. *cheers*

As for the ball coaster, I don't see it coming to CP...I really don't think they're going to add another Intamin coaster in the park because their past 3 coasters have been Intamin. My guess it won't happen.
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Old 08-26-2005, 01:13 AM
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I don't think that's true at all. Look how many flats are at these parks. I mean they all have the generic stuff but, I don't know. I was told CP would get a screaming swing, and I don't think that them having one in another park in the chain would be against any standards or trends that they have. I mean there is really only so much that parks in the states seem to get, and they are all like a fad when they happen. One park gets one, and another has to have it. That goes for competing companies as well as parks within a chain. Just for my info, does anybody have links to a picture of a screaming swing? My impression is that they are like Maxair without the spinning part.
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What is this "ball coaster" and where did it come from? I tried searching it and couldn't find anything. Not even on Intamin's main website!
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Old 08-26-2005, 06:30 PM
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All of this information is from http://coastersandmore.de/rides/eas05/eas1.shtml. The ball coaster pictures are halfway down the page where it says Intamin on the link above. I have translated the German article into English below. Some German words might not have come out in the translation.
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The current bestseller in Intamin is the Hydraulic Launch Coaster. After Cedar Point with the new hydraulics Antriebstechnologie 2003 could attack into new heights dimensions, this year gets itself the Six flies group with Kingda Ka the heights record back. With a total height of 139 meters, the train in the Six fly Great Adventure will surpass the "competitor" Top Thrill Dragster in the Cedar Point around eleven meters. 206 hours kilometers of maximum speed are required in order to overcome the perpendicularly looming rails product. A Speed-hill follow the tower construction with of magnet brake installed in the departure.
The first extraditions to Europe cannot compete in height and speed to be sure, offer however change richer layouts. The building of canon in the Swedish Liseberg with two inversions lies before the timetable so that the starting already was able to result. The end of April is supposed to be released the train for the park visitors. Far advanced also the structural work in the English Alton tower where Rita revalued from beginning April with a winding layout. Further units for the European room are presently in the conversation.

The newest development in the area already bandage Attraktionen is form into a ball that Coaster. Whose rail passes completely in a vertical plain by what means the necessary base is very slight. The littlest concern model requires only 36 front meters and 10 meters of depth. The single vehicles consist of four rows for two persons apiece, who are arranged to the left and to the right next to the rail. At each side, two rows back are at back. The chip expanse of the vehicle amounts to four meters.

The vehicles are accelerated and reach by means of LSM-drives, so-called linear synchronically motors, which are used in Katapultcoastern since 1997, in obliquely increasing stretch segments after a superelevation a depression that serves as a block subdivision and out of which the vehicles become again per LSM herausbeschleunigt. Because the passenger carriers are stored around a central axis revolving, accidental swing movements arise through the acceleration up to the over blow. The gondola rotation can be influenced in addition by magnet brake in the stretch progress.
Momentarily Intamin presents three studies of different size. They have everyone jointly that as a termination element a type is planned turned around Omega. At the same time the vehicle fells first of all into a valley, climbs again up, runs over a crest and fells a further time, this time back into the station. The largest study with six vehicles and a section length of 211 meters offers a finale case height of 20 meters. The maximum speed lies in 70 km/h. According to arrangement, along inclinations of more than 90 degrees are planned. As a test stretch, an unit with a rise was erected in Lucerne, that offers load report according to already an extremely unusual and dynamic experience. In the introduced studies, an optical dynamics arises also for the spectator, there itself at least three vehicles on the stretch upwards swing.
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On CP's own offcial blog...

http://www.cedarpoint.com/public/fun...8-dcf1d649798e

Could this be the beginning of a new type of hype for a coming attraction, or all a hoax? Personally I find it odd that a Cedar Point affiliated site (I mean come on it's their own site) would put on such a charade, but I'm not leaving it out of the question cause its obviously set up, but it still leaves you wondering.
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Very Interesting Indeed.....
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The photos are named "TH" then the image number.... Could TH have something to do with the name? Hmm "Thunderhawk" sounds like a lame name CP would use for a ScreamingSwing...

http://cedarpoint.com/upload/blog/TH01.jpg (TH01... )
http://cedarpoint.com/upload/blog/TH04.jpg (TH04... )
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