This is for the big expansion planned for Hershey in 2007.

To start the thread here is some stuff I have heard from a company called b&m .

There is a hyper being planned for the Midway America area. I won't say statistics.

The waterpark is planned to be behind Lightning Racer. They plan on tearing down the houses back there.

B&M Hyper would be awesone in Hershey. Just make the park even better.

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So you heard from B&M eh? May I ask by what form of contact?

While I was buckling people in, and later when I was at upper height check.

Well the townships near Hershey has reccomended 2 times to deny any water parks. One was a hotel/waterpark resort, and one is on the table to be denied by the town. Due to storm water management. You should listen to ITL! There has been plenty of news on Hershey lately.

And your signature is quite interesting. I see you are a ride-op at Dorney. How on god's green earth, as a ride-op, know about what Cedar Point and Hershey are getting? That makes no sense! Some higher up's at CP don't even know what is going on. How can you? Honestly?

Katie, who is totally confused.

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I was talking to this guy from b&m. I have talked to him several times. He comes around to the park.

This post is in regards to the B&M idea.

I would think that, unless this person doesn't appreciate or want to keep his job, he/she would not (1) tell anyone at the park that he's from a certain company or (2) tell any expansion plans.

This is one of three things:
1. The guy you talked to is an enthusiast "pullin' your leg."
2. The guy you talked to is stupid enough to leak.
3. This didn't actually happen at all.

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Ok. He is a reliable source. He wears a b&m hat and b&m polo. He is a reliable source, no matter how crazy it sounds. He told me back in June that wof was getting an invert.

And BTW, I'm not saying all the details .

I'm sorry, but I highly doubt that B&M would come up to a ride operator and tell them what they would be building in a park that you don't work at. I don't care how reliable you think this person in B&M apparel, but no person that would want to lose a contract that is worth millions of dollars. Anyone can dress in any companies apparel and pretend that. Besides, Patriot was rumored for so long before announced anyone could have said it.

Unless you have actual proof, I doubt anyone will believe you.

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hershey wants to expand their "water section" of the park for 2007 and they want to do it in midway. im assuming you didnt read the news release when the township shot down the first preposal. i have heard some rumors about a hyper at HP but i put the stress on SOME. mainly all the chatter over at hersheyparkonline is that HP is getting a Flyer not a Hyper. and yeah this b&m employee must seriously be crazy if he is giving away info like its candy. im not saying its impossible im just saying that guy is crazy. also by the way i heard that Hershey is not renewing the Turkey Hill's lease behind the lighting racer. possibly some other flat maybe?

Sorry but newbus is telling the truth people, there is a guy that comes around dorney once in a while and newbus has talked to him multiple times finding out information that we learned later was true, the waterpark was already denied by derry but HP keeps trying to pass it. So even though I to find it hard to see the houses gone in back of hershey it is possible for hersheys 100th anniversery..they have been planing this for years and we know something big, real big is coming.

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I could get a hat and polo shirt that says "Intamin" and say that Michigan's Adventure is getting a Xcelerator clone.

Point is... if it were someone real, they would be wearing either a suit/tie, or at the very least, a polo/khakis with no identification. On top of that, if they are planning big things, parks and the designers/builders all sign confidentiality agreements with penalties attached.

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Correct you are Steven, any company that wants to lose multi-million dollar contracts will talk about projects. B&M has 3 coasters for 2006 2 have been announced, do you really think that they are gonna blab them? I don't think so.

Just because someone walking around Hershey says they are from B&M doesn't mean they are. Most coaster building is done by sub-contracting. B&M only design and over see the ride as it is built. Most are carpenters, electricians, etc.

Most companies (coaster wise) will not inform anyone but GM's and VP's of parks. No ride op's are told, sorry but you guys are on the low end of the totem pole. You probably heard it through the grapevine.

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To follow up on that, B&M's website doesn't even list an office in the USA. If you want to reach them from the US, they list an international phone number.

http://www.bolliger-mabillard.com/co...ontact_en.aspx

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and normally anyone from a company that the park is doing business with is going to be surrounded by head officials from the park or at the very least the head park managers. possibly this dude knew some but the golden rule is remain skeptic till otherwise proven true

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Sorry but I don't believe that this happened for real. Maybe they'll get the expansion as said but I don't believe that a worker for B&M is just shooting the sh** with park employees telling them what other parks are getting. I'm wearing a White Sox jersey right now but it doesn't mean I'm playing in the World Series tonight. (Sorry, just had to throw that in there) so a B&M polo doesn't mean a whole lot to me. There isn't really anything that I'd call proof that guy is who he says he is or that this even happened.

And you say you won't give the statistics on the coaster, why not? So they get a hyper and automatically that means you're right? It's not much of a stretch to say they're getting a B&M hyper since they have a lot of other types already. And then if they don't get a hyper but perhaps a floorless or a flyer, you could still say you're at least half right.

I can say that I have sources who told me that SFGAm will get a coaster in 2007 and even go out on a limb and say they'll get a floorless. Odds are they will but that doesn't mean I know it for a fact. So if really wanted people to believe that I did know it for sure, I'd give some proof like the stats. So why not give us the stats if you really knew?

Sorry, I just don't believe it.

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Just like the last time I heard something big from him. Why bother telling you people? You people can just figure out this stuff when it is announced. Back in June I found out from this guy that WOF was getting an invert. I told you guys and you doubted me. You still doubted me until it was announced.

248 245 3:00

Are those the stats above? 248ft tall, 245ft drop and a 3 minute length? If it is and those prove to be the exact stats, I'll give you credit where credit is due.

As for The Patriot, I still don't think it's proof of anything. It was pretty well known that it would either be a flyer or an invert, so that's a 50/50 chance. And most would've said that it was more likely to be an invert for what it's worth. So someone saying that it would be an invert wasn't exactly going out on a limb in my opinion.

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Sure this guy isn't from B&m coffee and stayed up for 3 days in a row?

Uh........you realize you can get B&M gear (polo etc.) at every IAAPA or trade convention that B&M goes to? They costs something like $20-30, and the hats are $15 I think.

Why would Hershey get a hyper? They have a pseudo-hyper in Storm Runner.

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Remember something, that was in June when I found out that it was going to be an invert. No one except me and a few of my coworkers had a clue of what it was going to be at that point.

All you naysayers, just keep thinking that your right. I know it sounds crazy, but I'm right.

We know we're right.

There were two possibilities, those being an invert or a flyer. So there was a 50/50 chance to get it right. And almost anyone would've said that an invert is most likely. So you can't expect us to all fall to the ground and worship you, no offense.

It's no different than me saying that in 2007, SFGAm will get a floorless. I could say that I know they will but I don't. So when they do get one, would that mean I knew for a fact that they would get one? No, it doesn't. It just means I made a logical guess and I happened to be right.

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I am on my knees worshiping slnewbus because he knew what was coming to WOF in 2006. NOT!

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Ok, so we are supposed to believe you (a ride-op) (no offense to others out there really) that works at Dorney. And that you know what is being put in at Hershey and Cedar Point. None of those parks do you work for. You might work for Cedar Fair, but that doesn't mean you know exactly what is going on.

Everyone knew about Patriot before the announcement, the only thing that we didn't know is a lot of the technical stats, and the model type. I can find plenty of coaster boards and forums that had things up about Patriot in May. Before you knew. Come on kid, not everyone is going to agree with you. And when someone doesn't, you take the teenager approach and B*tch.

I don't think you know what you are talking about, and neither does anyone that has answered this thread. I am not bashing, but you are being ridiculous. Get over it. I think someone was being an imposter and you fell for it.

Any coaster manufactorer does NOT walk around a park alone. They are always with some higher up at a park. Like it was previously stated, if B&M were to tell you what coasters they are building and where, they would lose MILLIONS of dollars and any future contract.

Hell I just took a tour of GCII, and asked anything good for 2007, I was told "NO COMMENT, we don't discuss business until a press release is released by a park." Now GCII isn't as famous or hasn't been around as long as B&M, but they wouldn't dare say it, so why should B&M. I highly doubt they did. I think you were jipped. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Katie

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I must be the only one here that believes newbus..c'mon newbus showed us what he knew about the invert and look what happend it was true, atleast give him a shot to prove/disprove what he is saying.

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its not completely out of the question. its not like he is saying HP is getting a 600 ft flying coaster or something. what he said about HP getting a coaster could happen BUT him saying that he found out exclussive info from a B&M person is just crazy

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...and I knew that Cedar Point was getting Top Thrill Dragster in 2003 because another employee told me.

I worked for 2 Cedar Fair parks in 2 years, and one thing I learned was 1) never trust the employees, and 2) never trust anyone "claiming" to be from XYZ company unless you know that they are the biggest name from that company (and know what they look like).

That employee that "told me" was a CP blue tag, and he was only right on one thing... the height. Anything else he was completely wrong on (right down to the builder). Plus, only a handful of CP employees and builders knew what it was, and were made to sign strict confidentiality agreements.

Also, the rumor mill was consistent back in May/June (and for the most part, all the way back to December 4, 2004)... that WoF was getting an invert. That guy probably said what he said because of the fact the rumors were consistent.

http://www.thrillnetwork.com/boards/...ad.php?t=32861

When I saw some concepts and design work going on at a manufacturer for roller coasters (some really blowing current rides away)... they didn't name the parks, nor did they say when they might go in. I wasn't even supposed to see them, and was sworn to secrecy. I will say that some designs are already operating (they opened for 2004). So, with that, I doubt that anyone is just going to go around and say that this park is going to get that, as they aren't even allowed to really talk about pending projects unless they are announced.

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well, now that we have all proven we are anti-B&M, here is how the thread is doing:

So, to summarize, you guys think a reliable source isnt reliable, B&M usually wear suits and not polo's. and other various things.

Now, my question is, what is the waterpark status, whats going on with it?

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