Just because SF may not want it doesn't mean that some smaller park wouldn't love to pick up a fairly big attraction at a (likely) heavily discounted price. It could be the star attraction at almost any park not owned by Six Flags or Cedar Fair.

That's true that it would be the big attraction at many smaller parks are they going to want to deal with the problems or even be able to afford to deal with those problems on a constant basis? Another issue is if and more likely when it has issues, does the park have enough other rides to satisfy guests who were looking for thrill rides? All three of the Six Flags park have many other rides of a similar thrill level for guests. When I go to Six Flags Great America and Deja Vu isn't running which is often the case, I still have Raging Bull, V2, Batman, Superman, Viper, etc to ride and fulfill my "needs".

That isn't to say a small park wouldn't buy one if Six Flags did decide to dismantle any or all of their Deja Vu coasters.

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I read elsewhere the ride is going to be cannibalized for parts to keep Magic Mountain's Deja Vu running.

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^ That sounds ridiculous. Sorry but a whole coaster doesn't need to be mutilated to keep another running. Magic Mountain's is running fine. I can see why they could use a few pieces here and there in the case of a breakdown, but there is NO other reason why.

I too think it will be sold to a smaller park. But that's only speculation on our behalf. They never released any information during the Press conference about magic Mountain...did they?

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I believe the only place the ride itself will be going is the scrap heap.

I suppose it is good to be optimistic by thinking that the ride will be sold...but seriously, if a large chain park couldn't keep this beast running half the time what makes anyone think some small park could? (let alone even AFFORD too!)

The idea that Magic Mountain would get a stockpile of usable parts from SFOG's Deja is not ridiculous, lol. The park won't have to call Vekoma every time something breaks.

Isn't South America a route for used coasters?

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actually I bvelive SMFM's will eb removed too

I asked an important looking employee today at SFOG and they said that Deja Vu was coming down next year for Thomas Town. But what I don't get is, she said they had just replaced some part on it (she called it rollers) about 6 weeks ago and it has been running great ever since, why do that if you're scrapping/selling it?! I'd rather see a piece of dirt than Thomas Town in its spot.

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You know, I find it funny that a 15 year old doesn't like what Shapiro is doing. Because honestly, that's exactly what he wants!

What are you talking about?

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He basically wants less teens in his parks. I guess what he's doing is working.

Wow, he attracts mostly a teen age group and he wants them to leave. That's a great plan. But if it is his plan, he's doing a spectacular job at it.

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for those of you criticizing Shapiro, you need to realize something.

Six Flags does not exist to entertain you. It does not exist to please you. It exists for one thing and one thing only. TO MAKE MONEY.

NO business can survive by losing money. That's the entire point of a business in the first place, that is, to turn a profit. Shapiro is an experienced business man and obviously very good at what he does in order to work his way up to such an elite position at a relatively young age.

He knows what hes doing better than a bunch of kids on a message board.

I'm not trying to lecture anyone, i'm just saying, I'm sure he has a reason for whatever decisions he makes.

It's an opinionated question as to whether Shapiro is doing a good job or not. No one can be certain who is right, or even if both are right because both strategies won't be tested. Some people here would say Kinzel sucks because he closed Geauga Lake and that his attendance will suffer greatly because of it, while others will say he did the right thing by closing a struggling, and really not profiting amusement park. The ones that say Kinzel sucks will never know what would happen if he would've kept the park, just like the ones that think Shapiro sucks (like me and several others I talk to) will never know what would've happened had he done more thrills and a little less family saturation (not completely stopped, but not have it the main focus for "capital" investments).

He came from managing a sports team, he has no experience that I know of in the amusement park industry. With no experience in it, he may see Vekoma as the #1 selling coaster company and B&M as one of the least and think Vekoma must be a ton better. IMO, they should've never hired someone so unexperienced in the amusement industry.

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Why is a 15 year old questioning business practices?

Also, if you lived near SFOG, you'd understand why he didn't want teens in the park.

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He doesn't just want them to leave, that leaves out half the goal - attracting the families. The much more lucrative families.

Watching mom at the Attitudes store @ SFGADV buying stuff with her 3 teenage kids is much more powerful than one teen who's only able to buy Pop Rocks on his own.

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I'll bet that Angus Wynne Jr. would be very upset if he could see what Shapiro is doing to SFOG.

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Yes, I'm sure he would be upset with Shapiro making decisions to keep the park in business. The right thing to do here is to obviously to keep pouring money into a low-capacity, high maintenance ride so that some teens from the internet will be happy.

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What I meant was that Shapiro should put in a family ride along with a major thrill and you get the best of both worlds. He doesn't have to take out major thrills to replace them kiddie rides. If you want kiddie rides go to American Adventures. While you're there you might as well go to White Water.

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Really?

Because the days of the "xtreme!!" parks were very much against the Wynn philosophy.

I think you should go read the book that Tim Hollis wrote regarding Six Flags Over Georgia, and look back to the early days of the park. The park opened with as many log flumes as roller coasters (one of which was a kiddie coaster even by the standards of the late '60s) and they had a huge emphasis on live performances. The park was more suited towards families and attendance was far better back in those days than it is today, even though the population of Metro Atlanta has more than doubled since then.

You have my same view. SFGADV was doing just that, until Shapiro came. The Golden Kingdom is a great example of proper balancing, it's a kiddie section without Kingda Ka. Even though I don't care about theming, it does have enough to where it looks nice.

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^^I have that book! I guess I need to read it again. But still, like I said earlier, Shapiro shouldn't take out the popular rides to put in kiddie rides. Even if the kiddie ride(s) are a big hit, then it would cancel out.

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I just got back from SFDK, and I thought it was an amazingly great park. It has four "major" coasters, and the rest of the park is mainly family oriented; and now that they're adding Tony Hawk's Big Spin next year, it'll get even better. With this move to improve family atmopshere, I think it's a great idea. Some bigger thrillers will need to be sacrificed to make that improvement, but in the long run it will really help the park.

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Deja Vu is done for the 2007 season . On the right side of this page (SFOG's homepage), it says "Important Announcement Dejavu will be closed for the remainder of the 2007 season"

They can't even spell it's name correctly.

Shapiro

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Rumor has it DejaVu will be taken out of SFGAmerica Gurnee too. Still up in the air though, they say they won't announce whether it will stay or go until post-season.

Shapiro has been on a ride removal streak chainwide lately...SFA is a prime example of this because when he toured the park prior to the start of the 2006 season he took a good look at what rides were having reliability issues & as a result Iron Eagle was the first of so far four rides to be removed from just that park along in one season.

It wouldn't suprise me one bit of after the recent mishap on two face that it,along with Batwing & Skull Mountain are the next to go as those two have been having reliability issues from day one.

If any had to go from years of reading about the different Dejas, it seems the Chicago one is the best candidate for needing to go. I'm disappointed the Georgia one was tagged to go. Though not my favorite manufacturer I wanted to give that model a try after being on the SFMM one.

It sucks SF no longer has its park of misfit toys; Astroworld.

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Really?

Because I read the book (more than 5 times). I didn't find anything that said he was against the "Xtreme." Although the plaque says: "...the wholesome blend of family entertainment which was Angus Wynne's dream come true." The wholesome blend of family entertainment. BLEND is the key word. I go to SFOG with my family and almost all of my family rides the "big rides." So is that family entertainment or not?

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So can someone explain why this is being removed. Is it the cost of it just sitting there half the time?

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