Update:
The latest rumors are that all 3 Deja Vu's may be running on their last seasons. Now, this is very odd and hard to believe for many reasons. All three have been performing much better the past few seasons and are also some of the crowd favorites. These are only Screamscape rumors, but they are definetly things worth noting. Now if it's realistic or not, that's up to YOU.

Original Message:
Now before jumping to conclusions, I do have to say the rumors came from Screamscape, however, as each week passes, it seems more and more confirmed that the giant is leaving the park sometime in the offseason.

Express thoughts, opinons, and rejections below:

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Vedran

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Summer '08!

Hmmm I wonder where it would be going then. But of course since this is from screamscape, it could just be some bs; I don't think they would take it away from one of their flag-ship parks. Also shouldn't this be in rumors?

This is more of a rumors topic.

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Everytime I ride a coaster, it valleys. I've never been on a stalled coaster or had one roll back (except Wicked Twister and what was Superman: Ultimate Escape, which does that by design).

I hope they would send it to a different park..

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The only reason they'd take it down is because it is too costly to operate and not worth the effort they've had to put into it. If thats the case it wouldn't make sense to send it anywhere else.

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I sure hope this rumor is not true. When it is running, Deja Vu is by far one of my favorite rides at SFOG and thats saying a LOT considering this is a Vekoma coaster. But its a good coaster at that too. I can see in the business end why it would be removed though, because this ride is constantly out of order for one reason or another. That has to be costing the park a lot of money. Regardless it is still a great ride and I hope this rumor does not hold any weight at all.

One of the screamscape rumors said something about the buy possibly being a park in the Phillipines. If that is the case, that is a really odd move, but then again, looking at it from a cost point of view, Vekoma and Six Flags had quite an ordeal when they wanted the 3 Giant Boomerangs installed in 2001. All 3 were rushed, and delayed. Each had it's own problems and started burning cash. This is why I can see them getting Deja off their hands.

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Vedran

Six Flags Magic Mountain
Summer '08!

Could Deja lead the way towards other properties like SFGADV? I love CHILLER but it's getting ratted on for being buggy. It's down for the rest of the season basically.

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From trip reports I've read I thought all 3 Deja Vu coasters were running pretty consistently this year. If Six Flags can get a good chunk of change for this ride I say they should go for it though. While an excellent ride, I think SFoG has a strong enough collection to do alright without it.

How is it "more confirmed"? Where are you getting this information from? Screamscape posted a rumor that it might be sold, but that certainly doesn't amount to any real, concrete evidence, much less a mounting certainty that the ride will leave the park.


In all honesty, you're from Arizona, not Gerogia or even the Southeast. You haven't even been to the park recently (and if you have, then certainly not more than once in the previous month). Having been to the park 3 times since the 24th of July (17 days), I can tell you that Deja Vu has never been running this consistently. The ride opened at about the same time as the rest of the park (10 to 10:30) on two of the days (the other I arrived after opening) and remained open for the entire time I was there with no downtime.


It would make no sense for them to sell it now that they've finally got it running reliably (or as reliably as possible with this ride). It's taken them upwards of 5-6 years to accomplish this, so I don't see why they'd waste all that time, effort, and money and sell it to another park for a fraction of what they paid/have put into the ride.

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Yeah 2005 and 2006 it was running great and both times I was down there last year it was running most of the day.

I don't think they would remove a popular coaster from the parks.

Of course I also said that Paramount wouldn't move Stealth to Carowinds.

but no, I wouldn't bet on this happening.

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If it is removed, at least I can say that I rode it. It is a very unique ride. However, the one time I was there many years ago, it was down most of the day. I am glad they got it running, allowing me to ride it.

I would definitely rate it as one of the most intense thrill rides I've ever been on (not that my record is overly extensive). I would like to ride the other two at their respective original parks. I'm kind of wishy washy on the subject. SF needs money but it's a great ride as well.

^ And there's a fourth one overseas in Spain called Stunt Fall.

Hey Cedar Fair...buy one for Carowinds!

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From what I understand, that 4th one never experienced the problems that the American ones did early on.

Normally later builds and those closer to the Country the ride was manufactured in are better. I have heard good things about the togo coaster in Japan and china.


anyways SFI has been inconsistant with removals. They remove some rides stating they are costly to run and keep up but opt to fix others that are just as bad if not worse.

This could be simply a cost thing. Sell it add say a Thomas town for a 4rth the selling coast. get more visitors. The area the ride sits and the parkign lot in back of it coudl be used for allot.

Though I would build some sort of retention and drainage area since that area floods I think.

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Michael C

I hope the dont remove it though, i'm going to SFOG next year an di want to get in all of their coasters including this one. Although it's a vekoma it looks like a pretty fun ride. Although, the main reason i'm going to sfog is for goliath.

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That's the thing. this isn't really one of the parks better coasters. While it woudl cost then a coaster in there count there are better running and well simply better coasater in the park outside of this attraction.

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So the update is that now supposedly all three Vu's are up on the chopping block. Now I think that's a bit hard to believe.

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Vedran

Six Flags Magic Mountain
Summer '08!

The new management seems to not want to keep anything Troublesome or overly costly. this doesn't surprise me. but I agree it's unlikely.

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I was at Six Flags over Georgia today and I got my last rides on Deja Vu (if the rumor is proven true). This is the second best coaster in the park, in my opinion. This ran smoothly all day, as I know of. There were no temporary downs or anything, unlike the other coasters in the park. The reliablility on Batman, Superman, Goliath, and Scorcher sucked today. All day, those coasters were experiencing techical break downs. Oddly enough, the loading for Deja Vu was fast and the line moved quickly, unlike most of the coasters today. The whole line was full and I only waited forty-five minutes. After that I jumped in line for a second ride only waiting thirty minutes. This ride HAS turned itself around and seemed to be pulling its own weight. I will be very suprised if they removed this before that "hunk of junk" Ninja, which most people hate.

I'm suprised they haven't said anything in the park, such as, "Get your last ride on Deja Vu" or a "Deja Vu farewell tour" if they were removing it.

I guess I'm in-between deciding whether I'll miss Deja Vu or not. I know I don't prefer boomerangs and know the legacy of trouble a bunch of these have. I got my one credit on the SFMM fun. It was a fun experience. With the bad capacity and everything else factored in I'm leaning towards the fact that I probably won't miss the ride. It's nice that the SFOG was leaning towards having a great year. Maybe they really got the bugs out of it now.

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I hope these are just bad rumors. Deja Vu is really a great ride regardless if it's had downtime in the past. All three were prototypes set in to work at once. Obviously they're gonna have downtime. And each one is in a different location with different weather conditions probably playing a roll in how often the ride operates [hey it could be!] All I know is that this ride better be staying longer.

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Vedran

Six Flags Magic Mountain
Summer '08!

I'll believe it when I see it.

They've just gotten all 3 up and running reliable. Why would they remove them now?

But we are in the Shapiro era and I guess anything goes. Watch out for Wiggles World at SFOG next year!

Hey, that would fit in super saturator's spot at Carowinds. Maybe I can get them to buy it. lol

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Have you ever been to Six Flags Great America? I don't know about SFMM and it sounds like it is running reliably at SFoG based on what I read from the posts above. What I can tell you from my my personal experience is that Deja Vu at SFGAm has never run reliably other than one, perhaps two seasons.

Regardless of what anyone tries to say, it was meant to open early in the season of 2001. It didn't. It opened in October during Fright Fest. So since the park was only in weekend operation, that means it ran for about 10-12 days or so during that season.

I think it was very unreliable in 2002 and I remember it breaking down a lot or not running at all and also hearing it wasn't running on other days from people I knew who went to the park.

2003 was another story. It ran often without many problems. I remember riding it a lot that season. I had hope for it that all the problems had been fixed. That would be shortlived hope.

2004, it was down much of the season and 2005 was a little bit beter. Last season wasn't too bad as I got a few rides on it when I was there over the course of the season. This year, I think it was open a little bit and I may have been on it once but I can't remember for sure. I know though it wasn't open when the season started. I was also there this last Friday and there was no movement at all on it.

It was a shame too since I went with some friends who had never been on it. One friend hadn't been there since 2001, the season it was supposed to open. His brother has gone a few times over the years and has never even seen it operating. Another friend was in line for it and waited at least two hours before it shut down because of problems.

The ride has become a joke at the park. So many people go there regularly and have never been on it or in some cases even seen it running.

Now as much as I do love the ride, I wouldn't be sad to see it go (hoping that it was replaced with another thrill ride of some sort and not more family stuff). If the reasons above weren't enough, it has a very poor capacity. At best, it can run no more than once every three minutes. It takes at least nearly two minutes to load if not longer and of course the ride might take close to a minute and then maybe 10-15 seconds to unload. So at 3 minute intervals, that's only 20 cycles an hour. I believe the train has 8 odd rows with the strange seating. So if it holds the maximum 32 riders with no open seats, you have a capacity of 640 (32x20). That's pretty low and I might be being generous with that three minute figure too which would mean the capacity is even lower.

So with all the downtime, the costs in keeping it running, the low capacity and the low guest satisfaction is enough reason in my mind for them to remove it. Keep in mind, I'm talking specifically about the Deja Vu at SFGAm. Although if one is removed, I would think it's possible they remove all of them.

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I personally have ridden the one at Magic Mountain and thought it was an okay ride, but nothing special. However, that's besides the point. If the rumor's true, it seems like a very odd decision to remove three identical coasters. If it's a maintenance issue, then what would be the point of sending them to other parks, if they're just going to encounter more issues? I'm surprised of this, and would be saddened if it were true, but I guess this is "Sharpio's world" now, and everything's about "the family experience". And if there was a chance that they weren't going to be relocated, just scrapped or placed in storage, what a waste of a coaster I would like to hope that the rumor is false, but you never know with this kind of thing.

-TedFuzz

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If Six Flags or rather when they remove the Deja Vu, it will not go to another Six Flags park. Who knows if the rumor will turn out to be true and they will be removed this season but I'm fairly confident that within five years at least one if not all of them will be gone. And I don't see them sending off such a big problem to one of their other parks.

My only hope is that they are replaced with something along the lines of another thrill ride or coaster. But you and others are right about Shapiro. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the space is used for more family attractions. I understand his thinking about bringing in families because that's where a lot of money is at. Only problem with that thinking is the kids get older and will want more exciting rides as do the parents. So saturating the parks with kiddie rides, Wiggle's World isn't great for everyone.

And what bugs me pesonally is that they chose Wiggle's World. I don't know much about it other than the fact it's a trend now much in the way Barney was 10 years ago. Why couldt they have tried to get the rights to something timeless or maybe even something they have the rights to now like the Looney Tunes chaacters or Batman, Superman, etc? Those characters are still popular with successful movies still coming out today.

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No you are wrong. Period.

I don't mind them doing stuff for families, just don't go crazy and pull out thrill rides for them.

I didn't know the one in IL was still acting up, maybe this coaster is only a hot weather kinda ride.

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I agree. IMO, Shapiro is doing a horrible job at running SFI. The only thing he has done right, IMO, is slowly increase reliability and cleanliness. From what I saw, I thought, SFGAdv was on the right path with the ET and KK additions. They brought in a massive thrilling coaster as the anchor attraction of a new section, and then brought some kiddie attractions/rides in around them. Everyone is happy that way, and it is exactly what I would do if I were in charge of a park. With that, you are making the money from the thrill riders (who will travel much longer distances to go to a park than a family) and getting them to bring their entire family since there are things for the younger crowd to do as well. It wouldn't bother me if he encouraged adding family rides during the time a new capital coaster/ride was in development. But, he has completely abandoned the thrill ride aspect, and I personally think in time his attendance will slowly begin to show that. The GP knows Six Flags as a thrill park chain not a boring (don't flame me, it is my opinion) Disney World and if they cannot keep up in thrill rides I think their attendance will eventually sag.

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If SFMM gets rid of theirs then thats 3 coasters gone :O

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