What do you think will happen in the future for GAdv? We know they need flat rides more than a coaster, and we know they need a drop tower as well. At the same time, Shaprio has the whole family ride thing in place? I'm pretty sure Six Flags has had their end with Intamin for a while, so maybe S&S or L&T will build a drop tower?

Maybe they will get their own version of Acrophobia at SFOG. Whe I was at the park on Saturday it looked like their was a lot of open space over next to El Toro. I think they should think about either removing RT or just giving it a whole new makeover, because I think that thing hurts more than Mean Streak.

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Hmmm.. maybe a new restaurant where freefall was, a new Dippin' Dots stand, oh and Shapiro's classic addition of Thomas Town!

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I always thought that there was a load of space where Medusa is. After walking under the sign, there is a long path to get to the switchbacks. Well, if you look back in that area by the path and switchbacks, it looks like they could fit a tower there. It wouldn't go into the Safari from where I'm tihnking.

I think an Intamin Ball, like rumored a few years back would be really cool. Right where Stuntman used to be. But bigger than Kirnu.

I'd kill for an Intamin Giga over there. Highly unlikely though...

Here are Screamscape's 2008 rumors...

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Coasterwise, I'll doubt they will go for anything real tall and big since they just got ET and KK in 06 and 05. Maybe a small maverick style coaster, or a Euro Fighter, though I think they are done with coasters till at least 09.

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^Yeah, 2009 is what Screamscape is saying. Nothing wrong with a big of wishful speculation though.

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I personally would love to see GASM torn down and put a much larger B&M invert in it's spot. Wasn't there a rumor that they were going to put a hotel there? That was a great idea since there aren't any hotels that close to the park, but then Shapiro had to ruin it . Anyway, Batman could be sold (if they did my invert idea) and have a large flat or two (Giant Frisbee and something else, if it can fit) go in it's spot. They do need a drop tower, and really need some flats (even though IMO their coaster collection already compensates for the lack of flats). They also need to reprogram their Top Spin, it didn't really do anything when I was there...

I really doubt the park will get anything worth riding though for some time, probably just kiddie and family stuff for a long time. IMO they were on the right track with the KK and ET additions where they added a large capital coaster and then added family/kiddie stuff around it. That way, the new coaster brought in the attendance and then the family stuff helped even everything out and everyone was happy. Too bad Shapiro only cares about family rides... . It's a great park, my favorite for coasters, I wish SFI would sell it so Shapiro doesn't neglect it as a thrill ride park, since that is basically what it is right now.

Isn't GAdv the highest attended of the Six Flags parks?

On a side note... don't flame me for not liking Shapiro's "plan", I just think his approach to "familyizing" isn't the right one. He could make everyone happy (like they did with the ET and KK additions) instead of forgetting about one group.

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^I think GADV is the most attended park on the six flags chain. I also don't like Shapiro's plan; it's to much of one thing and not enough of the other.

^Yeah but get used to it because that's all there's gonna be for a while.

You've gotten more coasters lately to enjoy compared to a certain SF park just 4 hours away that has seen no rides added in going on 5 years<that HH stuff added in 05 doesn't count> so just be grateful that your park isn't ripping out rides left & right & not replacing them with new ones which is more than I can say for the aforementioned SF park 4 hours to the south of SFGRADV.

We could really use a drop tower, but in reality, it would be nice to have a family ride come our way soon, since the park is lacking them.

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^^Busch Gardens Europe, a park considered far better than any SF in overall quality and enjoyableness, has waited eight years until they finally got a new one this year. And they still have less coasters to boast about than some park 2 hours northwest of it.

Great Adventure has more rides because it is more succesful. And of course, some can argue that it is more succesful because it has more rides. Well, some SF park 4 hours south at some point had a coaster collection not worse than GAdv, but because of its location and nearby competition, wasn't as succesful. Speaking of nearby competition, if you ever get tired of some SF park four hours away, you can travel to another park which is only one more hour south. That park might be the reason your park was nevr as succesful as GAdv.

There aren't any other major parks within up to two hours from Gadv. SFA fans have Hershey, KD, both within a two hour radius of SFA. [Gasp]He said SFA[/Gasp]

On to Great Adventure. Nobody is "ungrateful." This thread isn't meant to boast. It just so happens that given our circumstances, we can rumor up a new ride. Relax, it's just rumors anyway.

I think people need to stop bashing GASM. It's one of the original three "arrow seven loopers." GASM and Viper are the only two remaining since Shockwave was scrapped, and I'd hate to see them go. They may not be the most comfortable at times, but they are truely one-of-a-kind. Not everything can be B&M. There's this little something called "variety." I think having a park full of B&M's and Intamins wouldn't be as fun. Arrow made some unique rides and they shouldn't be scrapped.

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I think a S&S Screaaming Swing would fit nice familywise, and I know we don't expect a coaster but maybe a Tony Hawk clone?

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^Coaster wise I would say that under Shapiro's management, that's probably all SFGAdv can look forward to. Possibly a Gerstlauer spinner or Intamin halfpipe, though I doubt there will be another Intamin coaster at SFGAdv for a while...

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I was at the ACE Preservation Con earlier this month at SFGAdv. The park GM did indeed say to expect something "spicy" next year for an attraction...and that he has not forgotten about us enthusiasts, but that a coaster is not likely until 2009.

Honestly, I was there for the first time, and the collection of coasters there is awesome. They could easily go 4, 5, or 6 years without another coaster addition. In my opinion , they need to make an update on the "rides" side of the business.

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WTF does "spicy" mean? Maybe an addition to the Plaza del Carnival section?

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I basically agree with Bratman about the very varied and already established coaster collection. Much more strides need to be taken in the ride department. It's nice for all the optimism for the new coasters but I'm really doubting that unless there has to be another subtraction in order to get one.

I wouldn't believe in GASM going either. They'd probably give up on CHILLER first. It's the park's now old school looping coaster. As lacking as much charm as Vortex has since it's in a parking lot I still like GASM's niche in the park.

I would like to be surprised with a return of the park train and a new drop tower. Too bad SF has recently had an issue with an Intamin tower. The next generation mega thrill ride that swings around but isn't an Evolution dud please?

I hope "spicy" is not some inpark Chili's or Chipotle as much I like Chipotle. hehehe. The return of even a flat ride like El Sombrero would just knock me off the chair.

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Actually I would be disappointed to see the Parachute Drop tower go (as mentioned earlier). I found that to be a unique and enjoyable ride.

They could use one of the newer-generation drop towers (like Marineland's or CP's), and several of the newer flats we have seen over the past 5 years, like the Giant Frisbee, Swing Shot, etc.

I truly believe that with the exception of fixing a few bugs (El Toro, Kingda Ka, and Chiller), they should leave the coasters alone for a while. They already have something for everybody there, and indeed most of an enthusiast's "wish list" there.

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There are plenty of untouchables in the park - and I hope Parachutes and Skyride are amongst those. Pretty much Rolling Thunder and Runaway Mine Train as well, rides that evoke thoughts of the good 30+ years the park has been around. They wouldn't confine El Toro within RT if it was going. RT always will get ragged on for its lack of work and grease on the track though I've seen new wood on it this year.

Near Medusa que entry is Runaway Mine Train's helix and a utility/pump house looking shed next to Lahaway Creek. Some but not much room.

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There is ALWAYS room in these parks... you just have to be creative ;-) The good thing about a lot of the current hot flats is that they take up such a small footprint.... they can be shoehorned into a spot.


RT was probably my only real coaster disappointment there.

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I was thinking the same thing. lol

I'm surprised that hasn't gone already considering it's endless mechanical issues. I haven't been able to ride it in my two visits, is it worth keeping?

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^The ride is great, and they USED to be able to run both sides, with one launching after the other gets off the spike.

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In my opinion, it's just okay after the inline rolls got the shaft.

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Well I think a ride like Acrophobia at SFOG would fit good as a drop tower ride, since there is only one of them out there, something like that would fit great for SFGAdv. And for a coaster for 09, they can extend the Plaza del Carnival section of the park to over on the other side of El Toro, and put a spinning coaster there and name it El Chupacabra.

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I don't think Six Flags will buy an Intamin Tower for a while. It seems that Intamin's cables have been causing trouble to parks all over. Maybe an S&S deal. Since I think spicy refers to something in Plaza Del Carnaval, possibly a flat ride or drop tower there.

In the other hand, after working out the kinks, Great Adventure has had great succes with their two new Intamins. I wouldn't see why not to get another one.

Of course, We need variety. GAdv is filled with Intamins, B&Ms, but also has a couple of Arrows, and a Premier. They aren't going to cloud their park with any more Intamins or B&Ms because, although they're awesome, more than four of each and the rides will start to be too similar. It would be like putting S:ROS in the same park as El Toro. They're different, but the ride is more or less similar.

Other options? Maurer seems to be making some pretty crazy stuff nowadays. And in case you all forgot, Vekoma isn't dead yet (but after 2001 I'd be surprised if they ever do something big at an SF park).

I think that if GAdv got a new coaster, maybe even in 2009, it would be some crazy weird Maurer or some crazy weird S&S coaster.




But all that aside, I wanna know what the hell is "spicy" about next year.

I think Acrophobia is very unreliable from what I've heard. But I also heard that was because it keeps getting hit by lightning... lol. It is a nice ride, and the tilt effect really adds to it. Doesn't S&S have a tilted tower now?

I saw a video on a new proposed method of lifting for their 2nd generation drop towers. I don't know if it was an official Intamin video or if it was just some random person's idea. It used LIMs to reach the top instead of cables, but not launched, just used as transport devices. It would probably be a lot less reliable though...

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They are building a Taco Bell in PDC next year

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^If it was a Taco Bell then 'diarrhea' would have been the hint, not 'spicy'. My stomach lurches just thinking bout it.

As long as I keep my feet, don't come off the ride with cuts on my face, and don't get stuck waiting in line for too long, I'll take any plan.

Might as well launch it if they could.