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Old 08-18-2005, 05:35 PM
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Daniel Snyder is the ultimate businessman. His sole purpose is to make money. Before he bought the Redskins, he owned a company that his father and hisself built into a multi-billion conglomerate. He sold his company for almost 3 billion dollars when he bought the Redskins. The Redskins are now the most profitable team in the NFL. The man will not purchase anything without knowing whether or not he'll make money. Rest assured, he will turn Six Flags into a money making machine without sacrificing quality. That's why Six Flag's stock shot up today.
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Old 08-18-2005, 06:04 PM
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Six Flag's stock shot up today at the mere thought of a management change. I wouldn't through the word quality around. However, when I attend a Skins game at Fedex field there is no shortage of staff. I'm not going to say their quality staff but at least every concession stand is open and there is no shortage of people helping me to park my car. Marketing, yes, you will see more marketing. You will see someone standing at every major intersection in the park hawking a credit card to you in exchange for a free t-shirt. Don't be surprised if time share salesman suddenly pop up and Batwing becomes The Fedex Batwing or a wind screen stretches down the side of Superman. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see some sort of Chain Wide Tail Gate and/or executive club pop up. Personally, I'm hoping for a free season pass to SFA to be included with purchase of my season tickets.
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Old 08-19-2005, 06:17 AM
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Hello everyone, why does everyone or most everyone think that because he can run a football team, he can run a huge chain of parks? I never knew they had so much in common :rolleyes:

Hey guess what, having a successful team in the NFL is as likely a McDonalds being successful if it was next to a high school. How many teams aren't making profit in the NFL. The answer is few if not none. The NFL is the most popular sports league in the US. Why should I be surprised much less impressed that he has a successful team?

I see no reason why he can bring that over to the amusement park industry. He should be content with the fact that SF is on the way up and that his stock shares will climb. He should enjoy his ride or get off. He should not be trying to take a risk just because he's an egomaniac.
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Old 08-19-2005, 06:40 AM
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This might not be a bad thing. He's a smug, detestable little man, but his propency to throw money at problems until they go away will help Six Flags much more than it could possibly help the Redskins.
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Old 08-19-2005, 08:18 AM
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[QUOTE=coasterlove]Hello everyone, why does everyone or most everyone think that because he can run a football team, he can run a huge chain of parks? I never knew they had so much in common :rolleyes:

Hey guess what, having a successful team in the NFL is as likely a McDonalds being successful if it was next to a high school. How many teams aren't making profit in the NFL. The answer is few if not none. The NFL is the most popular sports league in the US. Why should I be surprised much less impressed that he has a successful team?

I see no reason why he can bring that over to the amusement park industry. He should be content with the fact that SF is on the way up and that his stock shares will climb. He should enjoy his ride or get off. He should not be trying to take a risk just because he's an egomaniac.[/QUOTE]


Well in the resume department, he is running a football team--so he does have some business experience. Why are you so against Snyder, CoasterLove? What makes you think he can not run SF? What is your beef against this guy?
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Old 08-19-2005, 10:39 AM
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Eastcoaster:Snyder won't sell off SFA because of it's close proximity to Fed-Ex field.


I wouldn't be suprised if SFA's close proximity to Fed-Ex field is the entire reason for his involvement in the company.....he wants to see the park succeed as an increase in attendance at SFA might also mean an increase in attendance at Fed-Ex field as well & with the shape SFA is in right now they need all the improvement they can get.
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Old 08-19-2005, 12:38 PM
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About selling off some of the parks, I couldn't agree more. In recent years, Six Flags has become a joke. I mean seriously, it seems everyone's had a terrible SF experience. A ton of the parks are totally disregarded and go with out new rides for 6-7 years at a time. If SF could focus on maybe 7-8 parks, they could make them all up to the caliber of the SFMM of old or the SFGAdv of today. And imagine the immediate impact if 10 or so parks were sold on the other parks. SF would have so much money to invest into the remaining parks they wouldn't know what to do with it.
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Old 08-19-2005, 01:11 PM
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Like I said in my previous post, Dan Snyder was a successful businessman BEFORE he bought the Redskins. He has taken a mediocre team and made it the most profitable team in the NFL. Do you think that Six Flags' stock would have risen yesterday if he were some moron? I don't think he plans on buying Six Flags just to ride roller coasters for free. I bet he has a master plan and you will see nothing but good things to come. Just give it a little time and if I am wrong, I will take it like a man and let you guys beat up on me and tell me how wrong I was. That shows you how much confidance I have in the man.
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Old 08-19-2005, 01:33 PM
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[QUOTE=VTD]This might not be a bad thing. He's a smug, detestable little man, but his propency to throw money at problems until they go away will help Six Flags much more than it could possibly help the Redskins.[/QUOTE]

...or it could just lead to bankruptcy. Spending a lot of money if you don't recoup it causes a negative. It's quite simple. You can throw money in the form of new rides at the smaller parks but they stilll won't have incredible attendance gains to make it worth it.

[QUOTE=vedder918792002]Well in the resume department, he is running a football team--so he does have some business experience.[/QUOTE]

I'm not impressed by that. I like football so I read about it from time to time. I'll give you a brief excerpt of a column from the Chicago Sun-Times regarding Cedric Benson holding out.

[I]"Eight losing seasons in the last decade, three head coaches, 15 starting quarterbacks, an offense that, ranings-wise, could not get worse..."[/I]

What's the point I'm making, you ask? It's that the Chicago Bears have been a disaster over the last decade but yet, yet they're still a very successful team financially. The same for many other teams as well. I don't find it much of proof that he can have success at running Six Flags. The Bears have done little right and had even worse luck but yet still make a huge profit and even got virtually a new stadium. This proves that having a successful profitable team doesn't neccessarily prove that someone is a good business person. I'm not saying that Snyder isn't but just making my case that having a successful NFL franchise doesn't mean much in my mind.

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Why are you so against Snyder, CoasterLove?
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He was at my last birthday party and got drunk and made an ass of himself....

I don't the guy but I'm not going to fall in love over him because he's one of 100+ owners in US sports and about 30 or so in the NFL (I don't know the exact number of teams that could be considered successful financially but I'd imagine most) to have financially successful team. Maybe he will do great if he gets the oppertunity...but maybe he won't. A football franchise isn't the same as an amusement park chain, is it?

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What makes you think he can not run SF?[/QUOTE]

What makes you and many others think that he can?
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Old 08-19-2005, 03:13 PM
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[QUOTE=coasterlove]What makes you and many others think that he can?[/QUOTE]

Because he's a ruthlessly good business man. Understanding what it takes to win in the NFL (which he doesn't, because the Redskins still suck) has nothing to do with that.

The man knows how to make money, and we knew that before he bought the Redskunks. That, above all else, is what SF needs right now, money.
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Old 08-19-2005, 03:19 PM
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Well coasterlove, I not saying he can...I'm just not discounting the possibility. Yous ay the NFL sells itself, correct? I disagree. You take the Cincy Bengals who have had a losing record since what, the 90's or so? THEY dont sell out just because they belong to the NFL. Yet you say the Redskins are doing pretty well? I'm not trying to be an arse and argue with you, just curious to your views. Until that post, your posts were basically. "Blah blah blah, he's not a good leader because he's in the NFL." .... The End.
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Old 08-19-2005, 04:55 PM
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Whoa, whoa, first off I never said that he wasn't possibly a good businessman. I said that by having a successful NFL franchise doesn't prove that he is. As for those Redskins, I never said they were great as a football team, I know they underperformed last year or the one before it considering what was expected of them. That wasn't my point. There are teams that don't do well that are successful financially like the Bears as I mentioned. The Bengals do suck and they might not sell out but I specifically mentioned that [u]not all[/u] teams are doing well financially but [u]most[/u] are. And the NFL is easily the most popular team sports league in the US. Yes, that does sell and help a team do well.

Last, I haven't insulted anyone here...other than perhaps Snyder so there's no reason to use "blah, blah, blah". I find it insulting when trying to have a civilized debate.
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Old 08-19-2005, 08:29 PM
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Hmmm... playing devil's advocate on both sides isn't smart, but that's what I feel like doing on this issue.

On one hand the "new Six Flags Inc" could turn out to be a good thing.

What I fear is that it won't, that this will further hurt an already hurt company.

Seriously the guy owns an NFL team. What does he know about running an amusement park(s)?

I guess we'll just have to wait and see. This is the world we live in now. Gone are the days of company loyalty and such, it's all about corporate buy outs these days. I should know, I work for a bank. lol
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First off...Snyder would not be the sole owner unless he bought 100% of the stock.

Second off...we all pretty much agree that some of the properties would need to be sold. If Mr. Snyder is the businessman that he's supposed to be, he'll evaluate which properties are turning a profit, which ones aren't and which ones are on the fence. Then I would expect him to make decisions based on that. Not which parks are near his base of operations or which parks are sentimentally significant to him.

Third...Business is business. If he's truly interested in making the chain profitable, he'll put in his people, who would hopefully have some entertainment business experience, and he will be successful.

Don't get all in a huff about this. Just see how it all shakes out before you make any judgements.
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^I couldn't agree more. Well said.
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