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Old 08-18-2005, 11:50 PM
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Anheiser Busch, BGT over BGW

It has come to my, and many other people's attention that apparently, (gasp) BGT is quite a bit more loved by Anheiser Busch than BGW. And I, as well as a few other people are writing letters to both Anheiser Busch and BGW to try and get them to straighten things out.
Sure, Six Flags does the same things with their parks, but Anheiser Busch doesn't have nearly as many places to take care of. So, if you're with me along with those many other people, write an email to BGW or AB, and lets see if we can get as many people as possible to help us out, and persuade the minds of AB.
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Old 08-18-2005, 11:54 PM
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BGT draws in a much bigger crown and it a bigger tourist attraction than BGW imo.

Bigger numbers and more money meand more time and attention will be spent on BGT over BGW. I don't think Busch id forgeting about BGW. I'm sure something big will come in in a year ot two.

It also may depend on what the guest in that area are looking for.
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Old 08-19-2005, 12:21 AM
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Carowinds, i see your name all over the place so i'm not trying to put you down cause you sure as heck know more about this stuff then i do. But where did you find the attendence for the two parks? And do you think there is any chance that the reason the attendence at tampa is because of the type of rides as Disgarde is suggesting. Or even then are we just coaster freaks who don't really make the connection that they did just invest $50 million into codk and we're just pointing fingers cause we wanted them to put $50 million into a kick ass coaster? Not looking for an argument, i'm also tired so i apologize if anything i said makes no sense, but i really don't feel like editing it.
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Old 08-19-2005, 12:31 AM
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Attendance figures are released every year in Amusement Busniess magazine. BGT gets alot mote people than BGW but i didn't mean to say thats why BGT is better.

Just trying to say that BGT is a more popular park only because of it's location so generally i would think Busch would put more money into the park that attracts more guest, Like SF does with SFMM & SFgadv & Paramount does with PKI.

I don't think Busch overlooks BGW but they just add attractions that would fit each park the best and Busch did the right thing, If they would have added Shekira in BGW yes attendance would boost but not as much as it would by putting it in BGT only because Florida gets millions more tourist from all over the world than VA would.

I hope that makes a little bit of sence, It's late :o

I was not trying to say one park is better than the other. I persoanlly have not been to either but hope to some day.
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Old 08-19-2005, 12:40 AM
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Thank you for the clarification.
I think if bgw could get VDOT to finish the I-64 near hampton colliseum crap more people from the southside would go...
I was thinking about what i did say DarKastle was 50 million its not like they put in a 40,000(this cost is a guess) concession stand only.
Not to ramble on, but it never seemed to me like bgt got that many way out of towners i thought they pretty much stuck to orlando, tampa and orlando are pretty far apart I thought.
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Old 08-19-2005, 12:46 AM
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I don't know for sure if BGT gets alot of tourise from around the world, i was just assuming they do being only an hour or so away from Disney which does get people from all over the world and would think people from all over would spend some time at BGT and not just Disney. Same goes for Sea World & Universal. Not really sure.
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well universal is right in orlando probably 15-20 minutes from disney(which is slightly outside of orlando)***local correct me please***and sea world is right in there too, tampa is like an hour and a half. Tomorrow i think i'll look at city populations and such and analyze this further, and then probably laugh at my self for taking the time to do all that....good night
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Old 08-19-2005, 01:03 AM
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I have been to the 2 parks in the past year, so here is my opinion:

BGT probably makes more money. It is near a bigger city, it is larger, and more people come to it each year because it is a year round park. BUT, BGW is definately the higher quality park. BGT is....bleh. BGW is the nicest park I have been to, and the theming and rides are great. I think that Anaheiser-Busch should invest into both parks equally, so in the end they get major profits from both parks, and you keep attracting at BGW.
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Old 08-19-2005, 01:08 AM
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Thats what i was trying to say. Thanks.
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Old 08-19-2005, 01:26 AM
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Right. I do agree with a lot of that stuff, on what they do for each park. Yes, they did spend 50 million dollars on DarKastle, but there was absolutely nothing in between the time that took. between 2000 and 2004 practicaclly nothing happened. which may be the reason, they were saving money for darkastle. However I do recall someone saying the park wanted to see how long they could last without another coaster, which is a stupid idea that no park on earth should ever try.
I'm not trying to change the world, or "split the system from the inside out"
I'm just trying to level things here.
Disney has been putting in stuff in each of their parks equally, sure Universal studios and hollywood and all others are replicas of each other, they do get good ride balancing. With some nice ride come in at a regularly often pace.
just because a new coaster comes in every two or so years doesn't automatically mean there crappy.(hypothetically speaking) A group of designers could have spent five years on each one and it just turned out, that 2 years was the interval for those rides,(whatever they may be) to be put in.
I lost my point. Its real late, maybe it'll come back to me tomorrow. g'night.
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:28 AM
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I know as an out of town visitor, which I would be...there is not a lot to draw me to Williamsburg (BGW) outside of the park and a history lesson, and maybe the beach. Well, look at Florida. For a bit of a drive, in Florida you have multiple parks, beaches, and more. So while I can't back anything up, I would almost bet that there are a lot more tourists in the Florida area, than there are in the Williamsburg area.
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Old 08-19-2005, 03:57 AM
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I understand the overall bigger tourist climate in Southern Florida. I'm just not moved to write letters on behalf of BGW. They still stand pretty well with what they already have.
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Old 08-19-2005, 05:34 AM
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[QUOTE=DisGardeVersal]It has come to my, and many other people's attention that apparently, (gasp) BGT is quite a bit more loved by Anheiser Busch than BGW. And I, as well as a few other people are writing letters to both Anheiser Busch and BGW to try and get them to straighten things out.
Sure, Six Flags does the same things with their parks, but Anheiser Busch doesn't have nearly as many places to take care of. So, if you're with me along with those many other people, write an email to BGW or AB, and lets see if we can get as many people as possible to help us out, and persuade the minds of AB.[/QUOTE]

First of all, where did this information come from. Facts please, no rumors.
Second, BGT is open year round where as BGW is only open part of the year. Any investments in the parks would obviously be easier to recoup at BGT just because of the fact that they are open all year which would make them the more profitable park. Also, you have to compare the competiton between the parks. The mere fact that BGT being in Florida makes the competition intense. Closest competition for BGW is PKD(1 hour away) Carowinds and SFA(both 3 hours away).
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Old 08-19-2005, 09:42 AM
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[QUOTE=Carowinds 73-03]Attendance figures are released every year in Amusement Busniess magazine. BGT gets alot mote people than BGW but i didn't mean to say thats why BGT is better.
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Carrowids...its a known fact that BGW and BGT do not release attendance figures. at least accurate figures. being a private company they have that luxury.....Thats BUD stock on the NYSE not BGW....and also what your saying confuses me....by your rational they would only put in good attractions in florida to drive attendance there effectively taking business away from BGW and just put in something here and there to tide the masses over until they can scrape together the money to go the the promised land of tampa? Thats really not a good business model. The one of the things that paramount does corrrectly is distirbute good rides throughout their company so that the experience isnt quite the same but at the same time you are satisfied with what you have and want to see what else they have in store.
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