The anouncment that sfmm will be building a custom b&m flyer has made alot of cedar point fans mad. Now knowing the park will not be tied for the record of the most coasters.What do you think ceader point will do?

No... CP is lazy and old now.. They should just give up at life.

Don't worry, cedar point will get a new coaster one of these years..

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^ Oh whatever...stop complaining.

I think that CP will build a spinning mouse similar to timberland twister at camp snoopy. I bet it will go in frontier town and it will interact with the midway like corkscrew does...

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I think everyone knows CP will build another coaster. 2007.

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i dont think they should count kiddy coasters its so stupid.like if a park wanted to get the record they could build 10 kiddy coasters and they would be counted they should build a coaster that at least passes 35 mph to count as a coaster.

/\ Sorry, you're an idiot. Families with little kids [i]do[/i] visit the parks you know. :rolleyes: Rollercoasters aren't just built for die-hard hardcore thrill enthusiasts like me and you, they are also built to cater different age and fun/thrill seeking groups. You make it seem like parks add kiddy coasters to "up" their count. NEWS BRIEF FOR YOU: WRONG!

And a rollercoaster is a rollercoaster. Whether it be 150 feet tall or 10 feet tall, 70 mph or 12 mph. If it is powered by gravity and coasts up and along a fixed track, then it's a rollercoaster.

As for Cedar Point "striking back", it really looks as if they don't care, all rumors and land markings show to flat-ride type rides or the suggested new flume ride. And they shouldn't care about what Magic Mountain is doing. Both parks are on opposite sides of the country and are not directly competing for the same customers.

^ Amen to that.

I think CP will get a new coaster like carowinds said, in 2007. You can all wait 2 years. I don't think the number of coasters really matters. If a ride is good and another is bad, then the good is twice the bad. Quality over quantity.

Thank You. I agree, CP does not care what MM does. Plain & simple.

But if i wanted to argue i could say Flashback does not count since it has not operated in years but i'm not going to start anything.

The two park are not competing in any way, shape or form.

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But when you market yourself as the roller coaster capital of the world, I think that having the most coasters has a lot of significance. I live in florida and get CP commercials all of the time because CP is now doing national ads. And a lot of people, especially from my high school, have commented on the park saying, "Wow! I saw a comercial with an amusement park with 16 roller coasters! I got to make it there one of these days!"

So to say that CP doesn't care about their record is just foolish. I still stand by my statement as to what I think will be added next year, and I honestly think that it might be true...

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I think CP Will be getting rid of Demon Drop next season, maybe add a filler ride, and add something big in 2007.

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Whatever. Seariously SFMM doesn't desirve the record anyway. Flashback never runs, S-TE seems to have caught the "broken intamin syndrome as well" and most of their other rides rotate the dates that that actually opporate. Cedar Point at least their coasters up and running (except Dragster). Basically I wouldn't be suprised at all to Cedar Point build two coasters in 07'. One small and family oriented and one large, probably a flyer or floorless, although an Intamin mega looper isn't out of the possibilities either.

I guess we'll just have to sit back and watch.

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They will build two coasters in 2007. Dueling Flyers ;)

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[QUOTE=ride6]Basically I wouldn't be suprised at all to Cedar Point build two coasters in 07'. One small and family oriented and one large, probably a flyer or floorless, although an Intamin mega looper isn't out of the possibilities either.[/QUOTE]

Two coasters in one season for Cedar Point? Well, that would be a first. An Intamin mega-looper is something that Cedar Point needs though. Why? That park is greatly lacking in the inversions department, considering it is at the time of this post, tied with a park for the coaster count crown that has claim to the largest number of inversions in the world, while itself is in 6th place.

sorry,but your the idiot.where did i say stop building kiddie coasters. i know children go to amusment parks and they need to have fun too.thats why there are bugs bunny worlds & camp snoopys.but im trying to say do not count kiddie coasters in a coaster race like in between 2 parks. the count should be sfmm 14 (soon to be 15) and cp 14.

[QUOTE=xtreme]The anouncment that sfmm will be building a custom b&m flyer has made alot of cedar point fans mad. [/QUOTE]


That's just because they have nothing better to do than to worry about their [i]precious [/i]record and if someone gets upset over something so trivial like that they should drink some bleach. Instead, CP fans should wonder why their park's coasters are all mediocre at best with the possible exception of Wildcat which is a damn good Schwarzkopf portable.

It really really cracks me up when people mention that CP fans are so mad SFMM is getting a flyer...I've been through the SFMM construction thread and nowhere have I seen anyone complaining about it. And like others have said, I don't think unreliable rides like Deja Vu, Flashback and S:TE should count towards the coaster record, especially since they are either never open or rarely open.

And guys, I guess everyone has really forgot about Kinzel going out with a bang in 2007...The last time CP went over a year without a coaster, they broke the height and speed record with TTD. IMO, the flats are just a ploy to make parks like SFMM think that they aren't worried about the coaster count anymore. You watch, 2007 will be the year that they get their next big coaster...And I doubt it'll be some mediocre coaster, I'm sure it will be something big seeing how it will be Dick Kinzel's last coaster installation.

It's already been said that the human body can withstand more than TTD has to offer.

Whatever happens in 2007 i agree it will be huge. Something we have never seen before of course. I just wish i already knew whats coming. It's killing me that i have to wait another year or longer to find out what new limits a coaster will push.

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[QUOTE=xtreme]sorry,but your the idiot.where did i say stop building kiddie coasters. i know children go to amusment parks and they need to have fun too.thats why there are bugs bunny worlds & camp snoopys.but im trying to say do not count kiddie coasters in a coaster race like in between 2 parks. the count should be sfmm 14 (soon to be 15) and cp 14.[/QUOTE]

Again you missed the point of my post. And by the way, this coasters race isn't even an "official" contest. A rollercoaster, regardless of its height (no matter how small) and speed (no matter how slow) is still counted. So explain to the rest of us why you suggest little kids coasters shouldn't be counted. They're still rollercoasters are they not?

And I want to reiterate what EastCoastn asked. Where did you get the idea that Cedar Point fans are getting pissed that Magic Mountain is getting their 17th coaster? Show us where you witnessed this. How do you know? Or did you just assume that like it was a fact?

OMGzX SFMM is getting 17th? Im so pissed! I feel like going to SFMM and burning down X... TAKE THAT SFMM!!11111!

I dont see what the big deal it.. So what IF SFMM will have more coasters then CP that still wont make CP OR SFMM good parks.

well coaster lovers care about it.the parks care to.

okay one more time
im saying a park can build 20 kiddie coasters for all i care. i know they are still coasters but i do not think they should be counted.this is my opinon every one has one so get off my case and lets get back to topic

[QUOTE=xtreme]i dont think they should count kiddy coasters its so stupid.like if a park wanted to get the record they could build 10 kiddy coasters and they would be counted they should build a coaster that at least passes 35 mph to count as a coaster.[/QUOTE]

Funny that you, a SFMM fanboy should say that. In 2001, SFMM got X, Deja Vu and [u]Goliath Jr.[/u] They specifically mentioned in their press release and ads that they were getting three coasters and that would make them the world's first "Xtreme" (your namesake) park. They boasted about having the most coasters in the world. Guess you forgot about that. :rolleyes:

And who cares about the coaster as far as fans go? It's the parks that will be concerned with it. Is someone going to decide not to go to Cedar Point now? Does this make Cedar Point's lineup of coasters any less impressive?

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^ Goliath Jr had been in the park for years... They just rethemed it.

im saying a park can build 20 kiddie coasters for all i care. i know they are still coasters but i do not think they should be counted.this is my opinon every one has one so get off my case and lets get back to topic
did you know that you have to be under 54 inches to ride golith jr
[b][u][i]once again this is my opnion[/i][/u][/b]
yes im a sfmm fanboy

Yes, I know. That's why I called you one.

I don't see what the big deal about the point you're making is anyway. What park is getting tons of new kiddie coasters. If a park kept getting nothing but new kiddie coasters year after year and thus, it took the record, I could being upset about it. But the fact is that most major parks only have two, maybe three kiddie coasters and that's it. And some of the bigger parks are up to the point where you can't ride all the coasters anyway. So a lot of people only ride the five, six, seven or so coasters they really want to ride and that's it. They don't even bother sometimes with the [I]lesser[/I] coasters.

[QUOTE=James]^ Goliath Jr had been in the park for years... They just rethemed it.[/QUOTE]

So that's what they consider a new coaster??? ;)

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/\ Not true really, in a way. Goliath Jr. was originally the Wile E. Coyote coaster and was removed awhile back and put into storage. Then it was reassembled in winter of 2000 in a new spot with new support columns and trains and repainted and given a new name for its March 2001 opening.

I'm so mad that SFMM is getting a flyer and Cedar Point won't be getting anything great...

Actually I don't care. One ride won't make or break a park, especially CP and SFMM. Both will be getting rides, SFMM is getting the better ride. Good for them.

Out if everybody that visits CP and SFMM, only a handfull know about the other park, let alone care that the other park is getting a better coaster. To be honest SFMM vs. CP is both trivial and trite.

Even if SFMM is getting the "Sweet 17" or whatever you want to call it, Cedar Point has something that SFMM probably will never even come close to. And that's being voted the Best Park on the Planet for 8 years in a row. Even if SFMM is getting their 17th coaster, it doesn't make the park any better except for coaster enthusiasts. Besides, the park needs to put some new rides in especially with all the rides that are closed on a daily basis.

And xtreme, I'm still looking for your evidence of where CP fans said they were mad SFMM is getting the new coaster. I mean, in one more year they'll be tied again or CP might even be in the lead, so who cares. Let SFMM have bragging rights for the year, because you know damn right once the new owner comes in, that Flashback and maybe even Superman will probably get torn out. So they'll be back at 15 and CP will be at 17. So who cares if SFMM has the record this year, it's not like they're going to have it forever let alone out of CPs or any other parks for that matter reach.

OK maybe flashback may be torn down
but superman:the escape what are you on the first coaster to reach the 100mph
and the tallest when it was built.that ride has so much airtime
it would fall down
before its knocked down