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Christmas Creek (WildeFyre) 1 6.67%
Christmas Island (CP Maverick) 1 6.67%
Poles Apart (bk2004) 6 40.00%
Icicle Heights (Valpengeist) 4 26.67%
Winter Playland Park (sfne stinks) 3 20.00%
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Old 12-25-2004, 07:04 PM
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December TNPP Voting

It's 70 degrees here, the palm trees are swaying in the breeze, I'm going surfing later........how's your day going?
Happy December 25th to everyone! Take that as you will. Anyways, it's voting time again. There are five parks for your consideration.

Christmas Creek by WildeFyre
Christmas Island by CP Maverick
Poles Apart by bk2004
Icicle Heights by Valpengeist
Winter Playland Park by sfne stinks

I want to remind everyone to give some reason for why they decided to vote for any particular park. One sentence will suffice, we just want to see that people are actually downloading and viewing the parks before voting.
The poll will be closed between 2 and 3 p.m. PST on January 1, 2005
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It's 70 degrees here, the palm trees are swaying in the breeze, I'm going surfing later........how's your day going?
Sounds like you're spending the day at my park

Well it looks like each builder voted for their own park, however there are no comments yet. So here's why I voted for mine:

1)... I think mine is most unique because I looked "outside the box" and built a tropical Christmas park. While most people think Christmas & snow, I went the other way and built a Christmas getaway type park. Mele Kalikimaka, the song, was my driving motivation.

2) Christmas Creek: I liked the buildings even though they seemed a little repetitive in some spots. I can't say mine were much better (didn't give myself nearly enough scenery objects). And I liked your rides and the simplicity of the park.

3) Poles Apart: Great architecture & detail, but I thought the park could have been so much better if it didn't blind me right when I opened it. What's with the pointless waterslides sticking out of the mountain? Pillars Apart --> Poles Apart? Too monotone.

4) Winter Playland Park: It looks like a great accomplishment for one of the RCT scenarios, unfortunately this wasn't a scenario contest. It just looked too RCTish and less realistic.

5) Icicle Heights: What's the point of a park that can't even be opened? The coaster looked good, but you could have used more color variation than snow & forest. The blue building in the middle looks unfinished.

Ok, that's my comments for now. I'm sorry if I missed a detail in someones park. Obviously I didn't build any of the other parks, so I'm not thinking the same as the other builders.

Good luck everyone. Merry Christmas.
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Christmas Creek was a little simplistic, and the buildings were a bit repetetive.
Christmas Island had some okay theming, and it's coasters wern't all too bad.
Icicle heights was a bit boring, and didn't have all that much in it. A few more coasters would've made it better. How did you do the invisible track on the wild mouse? I could never do that.
Poles Apart: Wow! BK did an awesome job with the theming and rides here. This one takes the second place though. It didn't have enough to beat my favorite, Winter Playland. And isn't this park to big for this contest? Or am I wrong?
Winter Playland Park: Awesometastical! This park has the best coaster out of all the parks, Santa Force. It also has a bunch of custom rides. It didn't have the best theming, but it had the best ride selecton. This park is my pick. Good job SFNE stinks!
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Old 12-26-2004, 04:53 PM
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Oh, TN people don't like realism. Oh well.

*shrug*

No offense but WPP looks like a park I would have made in the original RCT. All rides, no thought.
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Christmas Creek was a nice little park, but it was just too empty... just average. Expand more on your architecture, and use a little more creativity in theming the coasters.

Christmas Island was a good idea, but it was just a mountain with some rides... the wooden coaster was excellent, but the idea just didn't carry the park here.

Poles Apart, other than mine, I felt was the best of the lot. Sure, it was flat, and it had way too many trees, but the rides were good, the architecture was pretty good, and it had the best atmosphere.

Winter Playland Park looked like a scenario... sure, there were a lot of rides, but that was about it. I'll say that it did have a good atmosphere, but it just was okay overall.

I liked mine the best, but then again, I am a little biased.

Even if the park isn't openable, what would happen if you did open it? They'd go ride the rides, of course! It's not that big of a park, so having peeps in it isn't so hard to imagine in your head. (Well, that and I can't figure out how to put entrances in the right way)

The blue building is a little unfinished, but imo it's the best architecture in the contest. The rocks are around the park because I can't figure out how to eliminate land border fences.

The invisible track is rather easy to do, actually. Just download the 8-cars trainer, go to ride options, find your ride, and change the track type to crooked house. Then, voila!- Cool floating rides.

Well... I suppose that's all. I voted for the icicle one.
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Old 12-27-2004, 01:31 AM
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wait what are you talking about my park? I made it all on my own even the map itself and land style. I didnt use a pre-made map for it.
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Christmas Island was a good idea, but it was just a mountain with some rides... the wooden coaster was excellent, but the idea just didn't carry the park here.
*shrug* Like I said, people at TN must not like realism. I just kinda screwed myself by not giving myself enough scenery elements. At least my park wasn't flat.

I could say something like "Icicle Heights was just a coaster and a bunch of trees and rocks," or "Poles Apart is just scenery and a couple ok rides" or "Christmas Creek is just a train around a small park thing" or "Winter Playland Park is just a bunch of rides." ... But I didn't.

As for the not being able to open it thing... I used to get b****ed at all the time for making recreations that peeps couldn't ride or something. It just shows that extra level of skill by making the park able to handle guests. I could go on all day about what makes mine the best one... The only thing my park lacked was extreme architecture, which I didn't have the right scenery or space available for. My architecture is in my coaster designs, which are very much like something you'd see at a similar type park.
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Old 12-27-2004, 12:21 PM
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I'm not dissing your park... I'm just saying there are better ways to show realism. Have you ever downloaded rwadams's South Beach Amusement Park? Or, even better, Phatage's Six Flags Worlds of Excitement? Now, those are some seriously realistic parks.

Your park, after taking another look, was good, but it just didn't carry enough substance. I probably liked it right under Poles Apart, if we had to rank them.

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And to sfne, I'm not saying it looks like you built it from a scenario. I just think that it looks like something any of us could have done if we were just building our own little park without it being for a contest. I mean, it did have a lot of rides, but maybe we all just look for different things in our parks.

Hmm...
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SFWoE is an awesome park.. Phatage is awesome. I have had it downloaded for a while.
Back on topic, I just thought WPP was also the most 'fun' out of the others. It also had a variety of things. And the building style was quite a bit like mine.

Ediit: Who also voted for Poles Apart?
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/\ Does it matter? That's why it's a private voting.

I haven't voted yet so it wasn't me.
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But I thought everyone already voted for themselves. Everyone had one vote when I was reviewing the parks.
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But other people can vote freely without leaving a comment, you know.

Wasn't me.
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Old 12-27-2004, 08:14 PM
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I'm not dissing your park... I'm just saying there are better ways to show realism. Have you ever downloaded rwadams's South Beach Amusement Park? Or, even better, Phatage's Six Flags Worlds of Excitement? Now, those are some seriously realistic parks.
Yea I think South Beach has some great buildings, but the park seemed too "busy"... That's why I made the Six Flags comment, SF parks seem "busy" to me... I like small less cluttered park.

Besides... My computer is too slow for me to build anything like SB (It froze enough times making this one)
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My vote went to Icicle Heights. I looked at Winter Playland and Poles Apart as well.

Winter Playland was just a big jumble of rides, ice, grass and trees. It lacked any real "glue" to hold the mass of stuff together. Some things showed potential though so I look forward to future entrys here.

Poles Apart was a nice park and things like the big poles and the chirstmas tree really set it ahead. The coasters were nice as was the archetecture but nothing was too terribly exciting about it. Other than the name... Poles Apart... Is someone a Pink Floyd fan or did that name just come up as accident?

Icicle Heights reminds me alot of Phatages entries to the Road Ralleys over at rct2.com. It was small, simple but displayed skills in hacking, architecture, style, rides and theming. It just like a small corner of a full park. No it isn't like a full park's potential compressed into a 50X50 space or all the rides that could be jammed in a small area. The park displayed skills and style (like creativity, knowing not to use too much ice land, etc.) and that is what should command a win IMO.

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No, I am not a pink floyd fan. Haha that's so funny, where in the world did you get that from? Poles Apart means different and I used that to mean the north and south poles 'apart'
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Poles Apart is the third song on Pink Floyd's last album, The Division Bell. Yes, I'm a Pink Floyd fan, that's the first thing I thought when I saw the name too.

ride 6, did you even look at the other 2 parks?
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I'll tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to download all the parks and vote. For my favorite. And next month I will submit a park and vote for myself, hee hee!
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Okay I looked at all five of them.

Christmas Creek was really cool, with all the buildings. It just seemed empty to me. (#5)

Winter Playland Park had a lot of rides! The roller coasters were just good, but not great. I liked the train, for some reason? (#4)

Poles Apart was cool, but there were so many white trees I couldn't see much! There was creative stuff all in it, and I would have voted for it if it was more open I think. (#3)

The island park was even better, since it was creative, and I like Hawaii. The ride's names were good, and it seemed like a good place to go. It was my #2.

Icycle Heights was cool! (My #1) The big palace was awesome, I could never do that. And how did you do the FAIRYS? The only thing wrong with it was it was really too small and didn't have enough rides at all, but what was there was cool and I had to vote for it.

Expect me to show up next month with a better one than any of these! Ha, just kidding... or am I?
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Poles Apart is the third song on Pink Floyd's last album, The Division Bell. Yes, I'm a Pink Floyd fan, that's the first thing I thought when I saw the name too.

ride 6, did you even look at the other 2 parks?
No, I'm sorry but I did not. When I came in and looked I was strangly not logged in and I saw that the three I downloaded were running towards a shot at first. I know that logic is very um, good but I still haven't gotten around to looking at the last round of runner ups at NE.

Man, Poles Apart is such a good song to... It just flows so well.

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What! Are you serious!? Poles Apart is a real song? Haha thats so funny. I had no ide.
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But ride6, if you would have voted for one of the other parks it wouldn't be a run for 1st as much as it would have been a jog

NE's parks are overrated... :-p
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Poles Apart was cool, but there were so many white trees I couldn't see much! There was creative stuff all in it, and I would have voted for it if it was more open I think. (#3)
I tried to make it like a forest with rides and attractions in it, so that's why all the thickness.

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After 13 votes:

Chrismas Creek - 1 vote - 24 Downloads - 118 Views

Christmas Island - 1 vote - 8 Downloads - 173 Views

Poles Apart - 4 votes - 14 Downloads - 89 Views

Icicle Heights - 4 votes - 7 Downloads - 56 Views

Winter Playland Park - 3 votes - 15 Downloads - 81 Views

... This tells me that more people voted than downloaded Valp's and my park. How can anyone accurately vote on the contest without downloading all the parks? I would have felt like a complete a** if I voted for one of the other parks with the way all the builders voted for their own. If I saw a park I liked better than mine I would have voted for it.

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But ride6, if you would have voted for one of the other parks it wouldn't be a run for 1st as much as it would have been a jog

NE's parks are overrated... :-p
I guess... I told you my logic was fried and I already voted so it's too late.

Oh and go win 3 NE runner ups and then you can tell me how overated the parks there are:
International Odyssey
Sunburst Shores
Waters Of Civilization

Although Sunburst Shores is really sucky the other two are okay imo. There are lots of highly skilled parkmakers over there. I used to take them for granted too until I really got to know the people a bit more. If you don't think they can build mini parks just check out Hi Rollers or the Pro Tour

Not all of them are great but the top five in each are very impressive. And don't loose site of the fact that Butterfinger, Natelox, Elrocko and countless others came from this site before they became "overated".

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Yea, and I was "good" before NE even existed

I just think this whole custom scenery/overdone architecture craze is getting out of hand. I couldn't even look at Corky's last QftB entry because of the amount of scenery used, my computer just can't handle it. People are focusing too much on the "prettiness" instead of making good coasters look realistic.
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wow, this voting thing seems a little crazy...it seems people are only downloading/voting for friends or parks that they think have a chance. That doesnt seem like great logic.
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Official Command: Download and view all parks before voting.

Seriously, guys, please don't just vote for friends or whatever without even looking at all the parks. It makes me sad.
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Christmas Creek: This park had the feel of some kind of North Pole town with the large buildings, the lights strung along the path (a great touch), and the sparce trees, as opposed to the thick forests in most similarily-themed parks. The buildings themselves, both the formal brick-and-tile ones and the wooden ones were all nicely constructed. I always like it when people take the time to add little details like balconies, awnings, or little towers. The rides were well-built (I particularly liked Rudolph's Rampage). Overall, it was well planned, nicely detailed, and had a cheerful, town-like atmosphere.

Christmas Island: One of a kind. That's the only way to describe this park, which stays true to the Christmas theme, but echoes how Christmas is in the warmer parts of the world. This coastal park, complete with tropical foliage and a giant volcano, is what I imagine a Christmas-themed park in Hawaii to look like. While there was nothing impressive or ornate about the buildings, they reflected the parks' casual feel. Among the rides, Ragin' Reindeer was a great wooden coaster that took advantage of the terrain. The other rides were good too, including a floorless called Elf's Enchantment, a variety of custom rides, and a kid play area called Crazy Cage, something I haven't seen before. This was a wonderful twist on the Christmas theme.

Icicle Heights: This park had the distinct feel of some kind of dreamlike fantasy with it's vaulted archway entrance, white paving, and organ music. The rocky scenery surrounding the park added to the illusion. The aforementioned entrance looks like something out of The Wizard of Oz, and visually is one of the most interesting buildings I've seen in RCT2. This park also contained one of the more creative and captivating hacks in RCT2, Forest Faries, a wooden wild mouse with invisible track, causing the little white cars to twist, plunge, and fly through a thickly wooded area. I'm not a big fan of the hacking, and the ride wasn't connected to the paths, but it was certainly very clever. This was a secluded, mystical park with a great fantastical quality no other park has managed to capture.

Poles Apart: When I hear the words "Christmas park", Poles Apart is the image my mind conjures up: a thickly forested, icy terrain in which shades of blue and white reign supreme. Having said that, I think this is one of the best traditional Christmas parks out there. The park is magnificently detailed, which explains it's massive 21.2 MB file size. The buildings, complete with domes, turrets, and icicles hanging down from the eaves, are great. There's a wonderful assortment of rides in all shapes and sizes. There's some innovative and superb things in here, and the longer I looked at this park, the more unique things I found, including paths that twinkled with inset lights, a moutain girded by all manner of thrill rides, and a fuctioning ice-skating rink that was absolutely amazing. There's even a New Years area, complete with a great fireworks show around a lake. This was an incredible realization of the classic Christmas park.

Winter Playland Park: This was an interesting fusion of both traditional Christmas park elements and modern ideas and innovations. This was reflected in the theming, a hybrid of the old and the new, and like the rest of the parks, was detailed and well done. There were a lot of great rides in this park, including a massive collection of custom flats. There were plenty of coasters too; one in particular that caught my eye was a Steeplechase ride with reindeer cars, called Runaway Rudolf. The names were just as great and creative as the rides were. I chuckled and laughed at several of them, including Santa Force, X-Toy, Jumbo Save X-mas, and Eh-Spinner. There was lots of color in this park, and it was nice not to see blue and white dominating for once. One thing I didn't care for were the black and bulky supports on Santa Force, but other then that, this park was excellent, a seamless blend of all kinds of parkmaking styles.

I had a really hard time choosing one, but in the end, I'm going to have to give my vote to Poles Apart. Though I liked all of them a lot, I thought this park had the best details and was the one I had the best time looking at.
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Great review. I feel much more appreciated now.
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