Ok, we all know thatb awesome airtime on a coaster is one of the best qualities we can look for on a coaster? Well, what if we enhance the air into even BETTER stuff?

Heres my idea: Trains would B&M Hyper- style, and their coasters are known for good air. Trains would be the same except for ONe thing: Theres a steel pole under the seats.

Sensors near the top of a hill would tell rubber wheels and magnetic+rubber + Metal brakes each to do somethin. Your gettin air, when all mof a sudden the chair rises UP,m giving that "Gonna fall off feeling."

The rubber wheels would turn up, and then the brakes would kick in. We dont want ANY accidents. Then, really Quick, they would take it down, giving then sensation that you made the chair do that.

And at the bottom of the pole, there would be a Steel Cylander about a foot in diamater, just incase.

STATS:

Coaster: B&M Hyper extender.
Hight: 210 ft.
Hills: Approxamatly 8 for air.
Loops: None.
Special train elements: Extender chairs for "Gonna fall out" feeling.
Special track elements: (This is really cool.) "Out-Side Turns:"

Instead of inside banked turns, turns would be on the OUTSIDE, once again using those chairs. They would fly to the outside, giving a MAJOR gonna fly out feeling. There would be as many of these as needed, but estimated 4-6.

iSN'T THIS AWESOME????? Of course, there's a very small chance this ill be built, but mabye it can replase Viper at SFOG. Who knows?

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So, whoa wait, maybe i read it wrong, but there would be brakes at the top of the hills? That defeats the enitre purpose. PLus the turn thingy, wouldnt pull major G's? its an interesting idea, though.

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I agree with you trock476. Outside turns would pull too much positive and lateral G's. At first, I didn't get the "pole" thingies under the chairs. I think what CoasterDude2001RB means are hydraulic pumps that are able to lift the chair to enhance the feeling of falling out. The idea sounds really awesome and all, but why waste money on giving a better airtime effect when designers can elaborate and find more ways to get airtime without using the hydraulic pumps? It's just a thought. Anyway, the coaster idea seems great. Even though it may not really be in the works soon, the dude can dream right?

The inside turns on raging bull go moderately slow/smooth, if you had it go slower, they you've got your turn w/o the gs. By the way, I'm not slashing Raging bull in any way, I love the ride, just saying that the turns are kinda a slow smooth swooping motion.

It would be cool if the seats spin 360 degrease. It would be cool spinning down a 250 foot drop.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Honan Beetch [/i]
[B]I agree with you trock476. Outside turns would pull too much positive and lateral G's. At first, I didn't get the "pole" thingies under the chairs. I think what CoasterDude2001RB means are hydraulic pumps that are able to lift the chair to enhance the feeling of falling out. The idea sounds really awesome and all, but why waste money on giving a better airtime effect when designers can elaborate and find more ways to get airtime without using the hydraulic pumps? It's just a thought. Anyway, the coaster idea seems great. Even though it may not really be in the works soon, the dude can dream right? [/B][/QUOTE]

Thats what I was saying. Besides, the brakes wouldn't be on the track, they would be on the pole to keep the pole from accually flying out of the train. And the cylander is alson to keep the pole from flying out. Here look at this:

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|___ This is the chair
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0||0 Wheels
|-||-| Brakes
| || | Magnetic Brakes
~||~ Rubber Brakes
_||_ Botom of chair
|___| Pole thing
-||-
|__| Hydraulic Pump

Of course, this isn't on scale, but it illustrates it pretty well.

Well...its a good idea...but I dont think its feasible. Do you know how hard it would be to syncronize the rising of the seats with cresting the hill? Plus, normal restraints break a lot...think about these things! And the outside turns just would not work PERIOD. Way too many G's.

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Having the seat pushed up would interfere with the lap bar and push you down INTO the seat rather than providing more airtime. Neat idea, but it wouldnt work.

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That's a pretty awesome idea! Call me when it happens!

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This sounds sick, It would be like bouncing on stand up trains, but wouldnt it slam agianst the bottom when u pull a ton of g's?

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I still don't get it.

Dude, that seriously sounds crazy, that'd be great though.

If you want fabricated feelings on a ride, go and hop into a simulator, because the idea of coasters is to provide real feelings of G's and speed

The only problem with this is that it would reduce airtime! I think Raptor is the only that noticed this, but if you float above your seat and then the seat rises, it'll just meet your butt sooner, therefore reducing airtime. Now, if the seats lowered while you were floating...

natural air is great.

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A very well designed coaster would be much better in my opinion. I look at it from the mechanical engineer's perspective. I look more and more at coasters from the ME perspective as my education progresses, and more at what is feasable, not just what would be cool. Hydraulics cost money. They are more parts on a coaster. More parts means more possibilities of a breakdown. More breakdowns mean more angry coaster fans. Not only that, but as zsteinert said, it would not increase airtime. Putting them on straight springs would make a bouncy sensation, which would be kinda neat, but more of a gimmick. Moving the seats down while floating would most likely take a computer system to control, or possibly a third rail (a la X). Interesting idea, but needs work. That's just my opinion though.

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The idea gets points for creativity but if you want to increase airtime, work on restraints that give you more freedom without allowing you to fall out.

if it is bulit i would ride it just to say i did it no madder what eney one said

The trains themselves would cost like 10 mil. The outside turns sound fun, but probably will end up snapping someone's neck b/c of the g's.

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New coaster type idea
I just had an idea for a new type of coaster that i think would be really cool. I dont know what you would call it but the idea is that when the train gets airtime the riders seat is lifted up. Its kinda like an extender sword ( like the plastic light sabers) and when negative G's are pulled the seats raise up to a certain point. The idea of raising above the coaster train would just be pretty scary And there could be certain switches on the track that lock and unlock so this manuever is possible. And seeing people on it would be funny cause its kinda like "the wave" at a football game This would also maximize the drop feeling that is acheived. Does anybody understand what im saying or do i just sound like a retard?


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Look at the date sounds familiar huh?:rolleyes: Isnt it a little weird that we had the EXACT same idea:rolleyes: The only thing is i thought of it first!:p tO BAD U UNORIGINAL S@#$! :D

Am i the only one who has no clue as to what he is talking about?

I get the outside turn idea which suks it will never happen.. Why does everyone keep bringing up the ideas of loops inside out and the opposite banked turns.. its way too intense, that's why none exist .

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If there was outside banking, then the g forces would be too much, and you'd be pushed outward. It would give you that "I'm going to fall out feeling," but it would also be very uncomfortable and dangerous.