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Old 11-05-2001, 12:06 PM
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Why is the georgia scorcher so under credited?

I think this ride is byfar the best stand-up out there, i think its an original layout (correct me if i'm wrong), it doesn't give you a head banging like most stand ups, and its a very fun ride. I especially like the part where you make the swooping turn right over the rocks. How come nobody ever talks about it?
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Old 11-05-2001, 12:47 PM
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By far the best stand-up?!?! Have you been on any other B&M stand-ups? I personally thought it was too short and lacked any sort of punch that, say, Mantis has.
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Old 11-05-2001, 12:56 PM
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i like it way better than mantis, is vortex at parmounts carowinds a B&M and what about batman the escape at SFAW. if they are they are nothing in comparison. i want to go on riddler (i've heard its smooth) but till i do the scorcher rocks!
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Old 11-05-2001, 01:45 PM
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It's small and short.
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I agree with Cid. Maybe its cuz I havent ridden any other stand ups, but from what I hear, its way better than Mantis. I personally love the scorcher. Its an incredibly fun ride for its size!
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Old 11-05-2001, 02:18 PM
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IMHO, it's the best stand-up I have been on and is very "re-rideable."

I have ridden Riddler and Mantis slong with several other B&M stand-ups. The Scorcher doesn't not rely on loop after loop like most stand-ups do. Instead the Scorher has many directional changes which make for a unique ride.

Another point is that it is smooth, whereas Mantis will bang you around to death (IMHO), the Scorcher is smooth as ice. The Riddler also has its rough spots, though not nearly as numbersome as Mantis.

The "It's small and short" comment seems to be a reoccuring, "jump on the band wagon," answer to the question,"how is the scorcher?" Yet everyone forgets how small B&M's Batman:the ride is. Couldn't that also describe that ride. To prove my point, take Riddler's Revenge, it has how many loops, yes that's correct, too many to count after the first two. The body gets "loopitized" not noticing the difference after about the 3rd or 4th loop making the remainder of the ride bland, and IMHO boring. If there had been more directional turns and curves BESIDES the loops, I would bow down and say "we're not worth," but no RR is not worth the overhype that it gets from being located at SFMM.

So in closing, Scorcher is a very good stand-up and rates up near the top. Is it the best? No probably not, and nor will it ever be. Is it short and boring, only if you don't like intese curves and directional changes, of course that person probably does not like woodies or hypers either. The stand-up is a unique design and delivers its own style of excitment. . . let's just leave it at that.
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Old 11-05-2001, 02:23 PM
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GS is one of B&M's first generation standups. I like the second generations better (Mantis, RR, Chang).
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Old 11-05-2001, 02:23 PM
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ok first off i must ask what does IMHO, and i think i've seen IMO, well what do they mean. second does anyone have pictures of the second half of the scorcher. I checked the rollercoaster database and they only have pictures of the loop and the first couple of turns.

edit-ok how do 2nd generations differ from the 1st? i didn't know there were different generation stand-ups.
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In My Opinion and In My Humble Opinion

And IMO, GS is awesome!
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Old 11-05-2001, 02:38 PM
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Cid [/i]
[B]ok first off i must ask what does IMHO, and i think i've seen IMO, well what do they mean. second does anyone have pictures of the second half of the scorcher. I checked the rollercoaster database and they only have pictures of the loop and the first couple of turns.

edit-ok how do 2nd generations differ from the 1st? i didn't know there were different generation stand-ups. [/B][/QUOTE]
I don't know how they actually refer to them, but if you look at B&M standups, there are big differences. Iron Wolf, GS, Vortex @ PGA, and Vortex @ PCWI are all 1st generations. Mantis, RR, and Chang are all 2nd generations. The differences? 1sts are smaller and have less loops. Generally there is track that goes through the loop, too. The 2nd generations are 150' tall and have 4-6 loops. This is really my own terminology, and I have no credibility at all on how B&M refers to their standups.
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Yeah, I think so...plus the 2nd's have a MCBR.

And I dont care about size, GS is one of my favorite rides because it is just plain fun.
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Old 11-05-2001, 02:43 PM
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ok i get what your talking about, which leads me to yet another question how come i never here about chang? i just looked at some pictures and it looks like a better version of mantis. i find it odd that it looks better and has more elements but cost the same, whats up with that?
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Old 11-05-2001, 03:11 PM
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Chang was a very fun ride i had the enjoyment of riding it. Very fun. Well anywho its basicly mantis with an extra corkscrew but its still awesome.
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I was at SFOG A little over a Month ago to go ride Georgia Scorcher and me and my friend were in line for it...then it broke down... I was not Impressed with the loading going on either. On an off the subject note....Deja vu was also Slow as Heck.
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In some ways I prefer the smaller more twisted layout of the smaller standups like Vortex. The big ones like Riddler's rely on Inversions, and that makes it boring for me. There's not enough tight turns, everything is too fluid.

I've been wanting to make it out to SFOG for a long time. Specifically to ride the Scorcher and the Cyclone.
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Old 11-05-2001, 04:48 PM
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The scorcher is an awsome ride. It may be small, but it still is awsome.
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Old 11-05-2001, 04:54 PM
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by DHollon [/i]
[B]IMHO, it's the best stand-up I have been on and is very "re-rideable."

I have ridden Riddler and Mantis slong with several other B&M stand-ups. The Scorcher doesn't not rely on loop after loop like most stand-ups do. Instead the Scorher has many directional changes which make for a unique ride.

Another point is that it is smooth, whereas Mantis will bang you around to death (IMHO), the Scorcher is smooth as ice. The Riddler also has its rough spots, though not nearly as numbersome as Mantis.

The "It's small and short" comment seems to be a reoccuring, "jump on the band wagon," answer to the question,"how is the scorcher?" Yet everyone forgets how small B&M's Batman:the ride is. Couldn't that also describe that ride. To prove my point, take Riddler's Revenge, it has how many loops, yes that's correct, too many to count after the first two. The body gets "loopitized" not noticing the difference after about the 3rd or 4th loop making the remainder of the ride bland, and IMHO boring. If there had been more directional turns and curves BESIDES the loops, I would bow down and say "we're not worth," but no RR is not worth the overhype that it gets from being located at SFMM.

So in closing, Scorcher is a very good stand-up and rates up near the top. Is it the best? No probably not, and nor will it ever be. Is it short and boring, only if you don't like intese curves and directional changes, of course that person probably does not like woodies or hypers either. The stand-up is a unique design and delivers its own style of excitment. . . let's just leave it at that. [/B][/QUOTE]
Your mean. I never said anything mean about it, and yes batman is small, but no one is saying it's the best inverted out there. I love wooden and hypercoasters, and i liked the curves of the scorcher. But, i like mantis' steep drop and huge loops, that's just my opinion of a good stand-up. I never said the scorcher sucked. So there.
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Old 11-05-2001, 04:59 PM
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Cid [/i]
[B]i like it way better than mantis, is vortex at parmounts carowinds a B&M and what about batman the escape at SFAW. if they are they are nothing in comparison. i want to go on riddler (i've heard its smooth) but till i do the scorcher rocks! [/B][/QUOTE]
Batman the escape is like a first first generation B&M stand-up, because it was actually made by Intamin. The people that headed the project were none other then Walter Bolliger, and Claude Mabillard. After this, they split off into their own companies. Just thought that I would say that.
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[B]ok i get what your talking about, which leads me to yet another question how come i never here about chang? i just looked at some pictures and it looks like a better version of mantis. i find it odd that it looks better and has more elements but cost the same, whats up with that? [/B][/QUOTE]
You never hear about chang, because it is at SFKK, which is a step above abandoned.
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Old 11-05-2001, 05:02 PM
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does batman have the same layout as iron wolf?
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No. Iron Wolf is a different layout. Batman also only has one vertical loop, wheras Iron Wolf has a loop and a flatspin.
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yea batman the escape isnt B&M its intamin.
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Old 11-05-2001, 07:03 PM
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Dr.Bruce Banner [/i]
[B]I was at SFOG A little over a Month ago to go ride deja vu and me and my friend were in line for it...then it broke down... I was not Impressed with the loading going on either. [/B][/QUOTE]
What does that have to do with scorcher?? lol
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Old 11-05-2001, 07:57 PM
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Oh Crap! My bad! I meant Georgia Scorcher! Sorry!
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Old 11-05-2001, 08:13 PM
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oh those rides are like identical twins, i can see how you got them confused...ha ha note the sarcasim (just kidding) i only asked if batman was the same layout as iron wolf cause somebody said that the B&M guys worked on it under intamin before they started B&M.
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Old 11-05-2001, 09:51 PM
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When B&M worked for intamin they built Batman the Escape i think
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I haven't ridden GS, so I wouldn't know... but if it is anything like Vortex at PGA, then I hate it. I couldn't believe B&M designed such a rough and hatable ride. I personally prefer RR much more than Vortex, even if Vortex was smooth. RR's huge inversions and powerful turns really impress me. For those of you who say RR doesn't have directional changes, what do you call everything after the BR?
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[quote]For those of you who say RR doesn't have directional changes, what do you call everything after the BR?[/quote]
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*never realized people wanted to come here and get on the GA Scorcher soo bad...*
I went on the Scorcher over 70 times this year, mostly because it's the beemer with the shortest line at SFOG (I went on Batman about 60 times this year too, but since it always had the longer lines it was worse... After the 7th consecutive time in one visit it gets kinda boring.. after 15 you're too beemerized and you just want to get off cuz you can't stand it anymore...
In my opinion, Mantis was better than Scorcher (not headbangy either) but both are very good. But something bad about it is that sometimes you forget you're even on a coaster on the Scorcher... (hehe happened to me once and I was like WHAT HAPPENED?? on the brake run...)
Next time you go to SFOG look for the weirdo that walks off the train and gets on about 10 seconds later. (on most coasters, but this happens the most often on the scorcher). I's probably me...
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Old 11-05-2001, 10:58 PM
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Rebel2000 [/i]
[B]GS is one of B&M's first generation standups. I like the second generations better (Mantis, RR, Chang). [/B][/QUOTE]

I'm almost sure GS was built after mantis, rr, and chang. I think it debuted in '99.
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