Let's talk Intamin. Let's talk new and old.

First, old. The oldest coaster RCDB lists made by Intamin is "Linear Gale" in Taiwan. This is an impulse coaster and I believe the first in the world. It's looks pretty nasty if you ask me! Especially if it was made way back when. I mean, check out this picture here:

[url]http://www.coaster-network.com/bm/intamin/linear1.jpg[/url]

Anyway, that may be new; I'm not sure. It didn't have a date listed in RCDB.

Secondly, and more importantly, let's talk Hiede Park Intamins. Apparantly there is a 377 ft. monster planned to be installed by Intamin in 2003. Any info on this? Why haven't I read anything on it?

Thanks, guys.

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Sorry about that; move it if you have to, but before you yell at me or act like a mod, please do two things. Post a reply to the QUESTION and get some grammer becuase 90% of the people on these boards have never used a capital letter, period, or made a paragraph of less that one sentence.

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i dont tink that hiede park would put that coaster in because they just got a intamin woodie thats 190 feet tall, i dont think that they would put two of the pretty much exact same coaster just one taller in the same park

***edit*** o woops i forgot to spel rite and put in good puntuation. sory

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Also, Linear Gale is a relatively new coaster, and it is not nasty. The station looks really cool. It is almost exactly like V2 (oh I am so sorry, I mean Verticle Velocity at both SFGA.. er.. screw it) except it is a little smaller, and doesn't have the twist. So get your facts right. And you say it looks "nasty" because it is in Japan, and their parks look much different than ours.

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Getting people to use proper puctuation and grammar is a losing battle on the message boards.

Linear Gale can not possibly be the oldest coaster made by Intamin as the LIMs needed to power it are pretty new and did not exist back in the 80s. [url=http://www.rcdb.com/installationdetail1507.htm]This[/url] is the oldest coaster that RCDB credits to Intamin.

If you wish this topic to discuss Linear Gale, then it belongs and will be moved to World Wide Coasters. If you want to talk about Intamin coasters in general then the topic can stay here.

-Tom

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A 377ft Giga would be awesome but, I dont want to go all the way over there to ride it.

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If you go to the Intamin section in RCDB it has Jr. Gemini as the oldest coaster listed at 1979. I think this seems right, but i could be wrong, just thought id point that out.

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Tom Zeliff [/i]
[B][url=http://www.rcdb.com/installationdetail1507.htm]This[/url] is the oldest coaster that RCDB credits to Intamin.[/B][/QUOTE]

Yeah, 1982 is pretty early. And trock476 is correct—Jr. Gemini came before that, in 1979. But here are some Intamin coasters that were built in [b]1977[/b]:[list][*][url=http://coaster-network.com/bm/intamin/king16.jpg]King Cobra[/url] at PKD.[*][url=http://coaster-network.com/bm/intamin/roller2.jpg]Rollercoaster[/url] at Entertainment City, Kuwait.[*][url=http://coaster-network.com/bm/intamin/white.4.jpg]White Lightnin'[/url] at Paramount's Carowinds.[/list]...And then there's a [b]REAL[/b] oldie by Intamin. Intamin's jetstar, [url=http://coaster-network.com/bm/intamin/bend.h2.jpg]Big Bend[/url], opened at SFOT in [b]1971[/b].

Intamin sure has come a long way since shuttle loops and jetstars. When you look at PKI's Drop Zone, Millennium Force, Perilous Plunge, and Vertical Velocity, it is astounding to think how far Intamin has come... and how it still leads the theme park industry with new creative thrills.

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Ah, I mis-read the dates there and missed quite a few it looks like.

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by IslandKG [/i]
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Yeah, 1982 is pretty early. And trock476 is correct—Jr. Gemini came before that, in 1979. But here are some Intamin coasters that were built in [b]1977[/b]:[list][*][url=http://coaster-network.com/bm/intamin/king16.jpg]King Cobra[/url] at PKD.[*][url=http://coaster-network.com/bm/intamin/roller2.jpg]Rollercoaster[/url] at Entertainment City, Kuwait.[*][url=http://coaster-network.com/bm/intamin/white.4.jpg]White Lightnin'[/url] at Paramount's Carowinds.[/list]...And then there's a [b]REAL[/b] oldie by Intamin. Intamin's jetstar, [url=http://coaster-network.com/bm/intamin/bend.h2.jpg]Big Bend[/url], opened at SFOT in [b]1971[/b][/QUOTE]

None of those were made by Intamin, though. They were obviously Schwarzkopf, and Trock was correct, Jr. Gemini was Intamin's first coaster.

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Raptor, go to [url]http://coaster-network.com/bm/intamin[/url] to see where I found the info. Scroll down to the Shuttle Loop section, but also check out "Big Bend" in the Sitdown category. That Intamin coaster was their first. Big Bend was built in 1971... 8 years before Jr. Gemini.

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yea, linear gale is kinda new, but doesn't have a twisted spike like V2 or Superman

sorry, Yea

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by IslandKG [/i]
[B]Raptor, go to [url]http://coaster-network.com/bm/intamin[/url] to see where I found the info. Scroll down to the Shuttle Loop section, but also check out "Big Bend" in the Sitdown category. That Intamin coaster was their first. Big Bend was built in 1971... 8 years before Jr. Gemini. [/B][/QUOTE]

That site is wrong.. go to RCDB.com, and it lists them as Shwarzkopfs(sp?).. plus, they look like Shwarzkopfs, and RCDB is the most reliable coaster source online.

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on a side note, that coaster in japan does not look that ugly

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Shadow0919 [/i]
[B]Let's talk Intamin. Let's talk new and old.

First, old. The oldest coaster RCDB lists made by Intamin is "Linear Gale" in Taiwan. This is an impulse coaster and I believe the first in the world. It's looks pretty nasty if you ask me! Especially if it was made way back when. I mean, check out this picture here:

[url]http://www.coaster-network.com/bm/intamin/linear1.jpg[/url]

Anyway, that may be new; I'm not sure. It didn't have a date listed in RCDB.

Secondly, and more importantly, let's talk Hiede Park Intamins. Apparantly there is a 377 ft. monster planned to be installed by Intamin in 2003. Any info on this? Why haven't I read anything on it?

Thanks, guys. [/B][/QUOTE]

Errr....... Linear Gale is in Korakuen Park, Tokyo, Japan, not Taiwan. The Intamin Impulse in Taiwan is Screaming Condor.

Well, first we have the 1st gen Intamin, most related to Schwarzkopf. There are Mindbender (SFOG), Revolution, Scorpion, Shockwave (SFOT) ....... classic loopers (credit to Anton, but don't forget Intamin), much much better than Arrow's looper at same period......

Then we have the 2nd gen, plenty of experiment, most didn't live up the hype. Examples, S:TE, bobsleds, pipeline........ but at least I would give some credit for trying........

Then there is the 3rd gen, some plague with technical problems in the beginning but later fixed (LIM on Volcano, chain broken on S:ROS)...... but at least now Intamin knows what kind of coaster makes money..... we like hyper and inverted, so we have Volcano, S:ROS triplets, EGF and MF, plus the 2 Tornados in Europe.........

Despite B&M has better consistency than Intamin, but I like the spirit of Intamin. B&M is too conservative to try new stuffs. Intamin is my favorite company.

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Raptor [/i]
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None of those were made by Intamin, though. They were obviously Schwarzkopf, and Trock was correct, Jr. Gemini was Intamin's first coaster. [/B][/QUOTE]

your wrong about that my friend. all three of those coasters were designed by Schwarzkopf FOR Intamin. Not designed and built by Schwarzkopf's company. So technically these are all intamin coasters.

hi i agree that coaster in japan is definetly not old it looks really new also it looks really fun i want to go on it anyone ever go on it i hope i really like MF and other intamin coaster rides yeah they are cool there is a coaster at my park it is called laser it is at dorney park and it is cool i think it is made by intamin or that german guy with the long name that you talk about Intamin makes some awesome coasters but also does B&M i like them too and i want to eat cake.

How's that for punctuation? Just thought i'd provide a little entertainment.

[quote]Despite B&M has better consistency than Intamin, but I like the spirit of Intamin. B&M is too conservative to try new stuffs. Intamin is my favorite company.[/quote]

I would disagree with this statement. B&M invented the Inverted coaster. They perfected the Stand-Up coaster. They invented the Floorless coaster. They are about to come out with AIR which promises to be a much better flying coaster than Vekoma produced. They came up with the almost vertically dropping Oblivioin. Their seats are as close to mounting a lazy boy to a coaster chassis as you can get. The only thing they haven't done is Shuttle Coasters and LIM coasters. I'd say they've tried quite a few new things.

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by cedarpoint4ever [/i]
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your wrong about that my friend. all three of those coasters were designed by Schwarzkopf FOR Intamin. Not designed and built by Schwarzkopf's company. So technically these are all intamin coasters. [/B][/QUOTE]

Well ok then, but if we're talking about the very coaster created solely by Intamin, then it is Jr. Gemini.

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Nope, as it has been stated several times already, Intamin's first coaster was [b]Big Bend[/b]. Big Bend came [color=crimson]before[/color] the shuttle loops that Intamin teamed up with Schwarzkopf for. I read about it in a roller coaster history book. It was Intamin's first coaster, at Six Flags over Texas in '71.

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Tom Zeliff [/i]
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I would disagree with this statement. B&M invented the Inverted coaster. They perfected the Stand-Up coaster. They invented the Floorless coaster. They are about to come out with AIR which promises to be a much better flying coaster than Vekoma produced. They came up with the almost vertically dropping Oblivioin. Their seats are as close to mounting a lazy boy to a coaster chassis as you can get. The only thing they haven't done is Shuttle Coasters and LIM coasters. I'd say they've tried quite a few new things.

-Tom [/B][/QUOTE]

I won't call floorless a new type of coaster. It's more like a new type of rolling stock design. Inverted is B&M's only invention. Plus, you can see a distinct inversion sequence on most B&M coasters (loop, diving loop/Immelmann, zero-G, cobra roll, corkscrew, corkscrew)...... Yes, most of them are great, but bearing too much similarities.

Intamin introduced bobsled, LSM, and perfected pipeline (Arrow's didn't work well, Togo's can't turn) and cable lift.

In my opnion, Walter and Claude are very conservative. THey only make something that is already proven successful most of the time. Also, don't forget that Claude is so 'old school' that he dispises launch coasters........

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by condor27 [/i]
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I won't call floorless a new type of coaster. It's more like a new type of rolling stock design. Inverted is B&M's only invention. Plus, you can see a distinct inversion sequence on most B&M coasters (loop, diving loop/Immelmann, zero-G, cobra roll, corkscrew, corkscrew)...... Yes, most of them are great, but bearing too much similarities.

Intamin introduced bobsled, LSM, and perfected pipeline (Arrow's didn't work well, Togo's can't turn) and cable lift.

In my opnion, Walter and Claude are very conservative. THey only make something that is already proven successful most of the time. Also, don't forget that Claude is so 'old school' that he dispises launch coasters........ [/B][/QUOTE]
Actually, inverted coasters are not all that similar. Look at what they did with coasters that aren't in the US. There are some really great inverts ot there you know. And most of the layout is what the park wants, and not the coaster company.
Also, I think that a floorless train is a little more of an invention than a cable lift. I mean, yes, cable lifts are great, but you can't just cut down a floorless train, and then talk about cable lifts.
And yeah, they don't do the Launch thing, but look at CCI and GCI. They are soo old school most of their coasters don't even rach like 110ft. So being traditional is not a bad thing.
I love Intamin coasters, (duh) but B&M are great at providing world class coasters. By the way, AIR will not be old school.

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Air won't be old school, but once again B&M waited until the flying coaster became popular to actually attempt it. IMO they didn't really invent the invert, as its more or less just an improvement on Arrow's Suspended design. I agree with condor27, basically, B&M never really tries anything new, they just improve on what already exists.

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CCI and GCI also happen to be wooden coaster creators. Those arent meant to go up to 200 feet. I tihnk B&M coasters are almost all the same. It gets boring. Not that they are bad coasters....

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