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Old 07-19-2003, 11:07 AM
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coaster term question

Call me dumb but.....
Is there a difference between a coaster called an "inverted" and one being called "suspended"? If so, what makes them different?
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Old 07-19-2003, 11:17 AM
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Suspended coasters by arrow swing from side to side around the curves. No other coasters that run under the track swing except plain old suspended coasters. Sit two across. Example, Big Bad Wolf

Suspended Looping Coasters from vekoma, and are the exact same as inverted coasters. also known as an SLC. Seat two across. Example, Mind Eraser

Inverted coasters are from B&M, they sit four across. Example, Raptor

Suspended Looping coasters from intamin are basically the same as inverted coasters. They can be spotted easily because the track is a giant truss. Seat two across. Example, Volcano - The blast coaster.
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Old 07-19-2003, 11:43 AM
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Ok, you're dumb....

Hey coasterkidmwm, you forgot Giovanola. Anaconda looks like the most intense invert out there. For iNTeNSeBLue98's sake, Anaconda has 2 across seating but uses box section track much like B&M except it has no flat spot in the ties. Look at my avatar for an example of Gio track.

[url]http://www.rcdb.com/installationdetail1169.htm[/url]

Here's also an easiers way to remember it. Inverts are fixed to the track while suspended swing.
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Old 07-19-2003, 12:34 PM
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by TITANium Alloy [/i]
[B]Ok, you're dumb....

Here's also an easiers way to remember it. Inverts are fixed to the track while suspended swing. [/B][/QUOTE]

;) I'm by far no expert on the techincal aspects of roller coaster construction. I think I understood the fixed vs. swinging difference from coasterkidmwm's reply, but thanks for simplifying the answer.
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Old 07-19-2003, 12:45 PM
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Hey you said "Call me dumb". You asked for it.
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Old 07-19-2003, 01:21 PM
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hence the wink.:D
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Old 07-19-2003, 01:37 PM
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sorry i forgot about giovanola...
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Old 07-19-2003, 01:57 PM
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There's not much difference between B&M inverted track and Giovanola inverted track, except that B&M's is wider, to accomodate the four-across train.
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Old 07-19-2003, 02:30 PM
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it really all depends on the coaster company. its like how B&M calls them cobra rolls while arrow calls them boomerangs. or how B&M calls them batwings while arrow calls them butterflies. B&M calls their floorless, not swinging coasters "inverteds". vekoma/intamin calls their floorless, not swinging coasters "suspended looping coasters". i believe setpoint calls their floorless, swinging coaster "flying junior". i suggest going to [url]www.coasterforce.com[/url] to find out everything you need to know about track elements, coaster types, coaster companies, and anything else.
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Old 07-19-2003, 07:27 PM
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B&M Cobra Roll =/= Arrow Boomerang
B&M Cobra Roll == Arrow Batwing

B&M Batwing =/= Arrow Butterfly
B&M Batwing == Arrow Boomerang

Hopefully that made sense....I didn't feel like typing it out.
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Old 07-19-2003, 08:04 PM
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:confused: not to me, but I know what you're trying to say. the = = and the =/= are what confused me.
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Old 07-19-2003, 08:17 PM
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= = means "Blank is equal to blank" =/= means "Blank is not equal to blank"

Also, is anaconda the last coaster Giovinola will make? There were rumors they are out of business. And Calvin-B&M and Giovinola track are probably the same, because Giovinola makes track for B&M. B&M just told them they had to use 2 across seating because B&M patented their 4-across seating.
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Old 07-19-2003, 09:18 PM
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I am not a fan of vocabulary which is manufacturer specific. I prefer a general vocabulary which is applicable to all coasters.

To put in general way, both suspended and inverted coasters runs below the track. However, a suspended coaster's gondolas are free to swing left and right, but inverted coasters can only bank as much as the track does. Inverted coaster is not free to swing, that's all.

I don't care what Intamin and Vekoma called their inverted creations. They are all inverteds (Tornado, Volcano, SLC and Invertigo) to me.
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Old 07-20-2003, 01:22 AM
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Ok people, I think iNTeNSeBLue98 got it a couple of posts back.
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Old 07-20-2003, 01:32 AM
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Coasterguy: Hmm, that's true. Intamin happens to be Giovanola's broker for a lot of their rides. Giovanola has B&M-ish track. They're all linked.
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Old 07-20-2003, 01:45 AM
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B&M track and G-Tech track are not the same. They are tubular steel track with box section and thats perty much it. The ties are different and the track is manufactured different. While B&M track is mostly hollow, G-Tech puts vertical steel plates a certain number of yards in the spine. This makes Giovanola's much quieter than B&M's. In Titan's queue, you can here B:TR running (which is across the park going tops 55 mph) while the Titan train isn't more than a 100' or so going 60-70 up the helix. The ties are also different with the sit downs having a sharp valley and the inverts have a more graceful u-shaped valley. In addition, Calvin, the B&M track is not wider. The G-Tech trains are narrower to allow for more intense g-loads. All Giovanola pretty much does for Intamin and B&M is fabricate. That's the only way they are "linked".

We don't know if Anaconda is the last coaster G-Tech will make. G-Tech is still out there doing the fabrication for B&M's European jobs. Who knows we might see another coaster, we may not. I sure do hope one of those inverts comes to Texas...I mean the US sometime.
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