I really hope to hear from someone who has some facts on the matter and not just opinions (opinions are fine, but I'd really like to find out if anyone has some info). I'd like to think that some day there might be another one, living east of the Mississippi SFMM is obviously too far away to get to very often. I have been on X before, and it was GREAT, so I really hope some day someone else might be able to come out with another 4D. That's why I'm wondering what the legal and technical status is?

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Well it was on rcdb.com a long time ago saying B&M was getting a 4-d in Port Adventura in Spain. Arrow is no longer if you remember, and S&S has taken over all operations. I believe when Arrow was building X it filed for bankruptcy. I don't think we will see another Arrow....4-d, but B&M is on the cutting edge. I wouldn't count out Intamin, but they are really into the accelerators right now.

Don't hold your breath. I believe we won't see a 4-d for a least a few years.

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Actually, I'm pretty sure a 4D is being built in China soon, if not already started.

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They are building one...I don't remember exactly where but I know I've seen artworks a couple of moths ago.

Yes it should be well under way into construction and it's going in China at Fuji Q Highland the same park with Fujiyama and Dodonpa

This quote has been taken from [URL="http://www.rcdb.com"]www.rcdb.com[/URL]

"Above this is listed as a sit-down roller coaster. That is just a "default" until more information is released about this roller coaster. It may be a sit-down roller coaster, but could really be just about anything -- even a second generation 4th Dimension roller coaster built by S&S Power for example.
The teaser signs posted around the construction area don't provide much information. The bottoms of the signs all say the same thing - basically the Japanese equivalent of "Pardon our dust" in regards to noise and inconvenience. Another reoccurring thing stated on the signs is "Episode 3". This has nothing to do with Star Wars movies, but the third of three large coasters built 5 years apart: Fujiyama (1996), Dodonpa (2001) and this new one for 2006.
The second sign is asking "Is her name Kyoto?"
The third sign is asking "Is her name Fujiko?" -- the name of a female heroine on the long running "[URL="http://www.lupinofficial.com/"][COLOR=#0000ff]Lupin the 3rd[/COLOR][/URL]" anime series.
The 4th asks "Is her name Hittori?". This is historically a Ninja, but the indication of femininity is strange as Ninja are male.
An additional sign (not pictured) asks "Is his name Tempura?"
Finally, one more unpictured sign shows a picture of the Double Loop. This sign indicates the Double Loop is in a "Final State" and its replacement is a "Next generation triple-axle".

This coaster in JAPAN not China, has not been classified as a 4-d or a sit-down, right now it is being classified as a sit down. There are no pictures of track, so there is nothing confirming the 4-d by S&S.

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Awesome. 4Ds are awesome. Lupin III is awesome. Japan is just plain awesome.

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It is good to see some activity, any activity, in building another 4D. Does anyone know how has X been doing recently? We all know that it has been down its fair share in the past. Of course, it undoubtly doesn't help with upkeep to have the company that designed/built it go into bankruptcy just as it is being built. It does seem like B&M might be a natural if 4Ds can be shown to be doable since they seem to concentrate more upon riding positioning (stand-ups, flying, floorless) than upon acceleration techniques.

[QUOTE=Commonsense]Yes it should be well under way into construction and it's going in China at Fuji Q Highland the same park with Fujiyama and Dodonpa[/QUOTE]

Uh. Fujikyu Highland Park is in Japan. That's not the same thing as China.

Will there be any in like...the U.S.?

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I'm pretty sure that at IAAPA '04 (which I attended) S&S announced that a new 4D will be built in Japan. Maybe those hints at Fujikyu are for the 4D.

I would love to see some new 4D coasters in the US, although after the fiasco with SFMM and X I don't know if they would be at any of the Six Flags parks.....

In my opinion, the 4D is a good addition to any park; for one, it offers a very thrilling ride; I have yet to find a coaster that can beat X for overall thrills/ride experience-you get the sensation of flight while feeling secure in the harnesses. Not only that, due to the restraint system, the height requirement is 48" as opposed to 52" or 54", which makes a very thrilling ride more accessible to more people. I am constantly surprised at how many younger kids I see riding X when I am at SFMM.

The big issue is reliability. If S&S Arrow does their homework with this next one and invests the time and money to really perfect the design and prove it to be more reliable, I think they could actually go head to head with B&M and Intamin with this and create the "next big thing". They did it with their Suspended Coaster design; after the issues with the Bat at Kings Island (which eventually had to be shut down), they went on to streamline the design and make it work (although when B&M came out with the Inverted design, Suspended coasters seemed to all but disappear.)

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I'm sure if S&S builds 4-Ds in Japan, eventually they'll build one here. The design is certainly popular, and it's still unique enough that a new one would draw really big crowds, even if it isn't as tall or long as X is. It may take a few years, but if S&S wants to keep building them, another one will appear in America.

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Oh there will be more 4D's, there just will never be another X.

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[quote=Chris L]Uh. Fujikyu Highland Park is in Japan. That's not the same thing as China.[/quote]

Ummmmmm I was thrown off by the post above mine that said China, I know the difference it was a mistake no need to have cardic arrest:rolleyes:

/\ Now, don't go and get your panties in a bunch because you were wrong. I just corrected a mistake you made. And you didn't know the difference, that's why it's funny how you're trying to make up for your embarassment with a hissy fit.

As for the topic on the [i]next[/i] "to-be" 4D coaster, I am quite certain in won't equate in size and magnitude of X. I'm pretty sure I don't have to elaborate on this one. :) ;)

I live very close to SFMM, but I know a lot of people on the east coast compaining about bot having a 4D any where near them. I think it would be nice to have one somewhere along the coast.

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[quote=Chris L]/\ Now, don't go and get your panties in a bunch because you were wrong. I just corrected a mistake you made. And you didn't know the difference, that's why it's funny how you're trying to make up for your embarassment with a hissy fit.



Well if you want to make a big deal outta of it you can, I was just saying it was a mistake and don't have a heart attack because it's not that serious.

Far as panties in a bunch ...you can eat my panties for lunch if you want.

You don't know what the heck I know, so don't tell me I don't know the difference between China and Japan. Like I said it was a mistake and it threw me off because of the post before mine saying 4d in china if you can't except that then oh well I don't give a rats a&&.

Hissy fit oh please your just trying to start some ******, if explaining my mistake is throwing a hissy fit then so be it. Your the one making it out to be something it's not.

Chris KraxleRIDAH get over yourself your cool and all but sometimes you can be a total A&&

Woah woah woah! Please don't start a forum flame! I think it's a misunderstanding on both sides! Just both of you get over it and get on with your lives. It's not a big deal in the first place.

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Way to bring back a stagnant thread and contribute nothing to it :rolleyes:

Anyways I'm suprised that no one has said the word 'ball'

^^There's no bad blood between me and Chris nor will there be any flame wars were both way past that stage lol. Like BOB said..."Way to bring back a stagnant thread and contribute nothing to it :rolleyes:" hehehe

I guess there really nothing to contribute since we all agree a 4D is being built in china I mean Japan ;) So I guess the only thing we can do now is wait for an construction update or an announcement.

Ball ball balls Intamin Ball coaster...happy BOB :)

hehe.. balls... thanks for a midnight laugh :)

Where did the word ball come from? LOL. Is there any correlation and the word between this thread's topic? :) Unless someone was talking about the ball coaster. MMmmmmmm Ball coaster.

There was a small article in Amusement Today last year about a definate contract with an east coast park and S&S to build another 4D in 2006. I know, obscure post, but worth mentioning. We also have not heard of this and 2006 is closing in. Which parks make late anouncements?? How long does it take to build a 4D?

It probably takes a few months, then another year to get it working right.

^ rolls eyes

^^ To actually seriously answer your question, for most coasters of any sort of size outside of a roller skater or traveling coaster, you're talking about a few years. After contacting the company to build the coaster, they have to come in and survey potential building sites for the ride, discuss and decide what kind of coaster they want, design the coaster- which can take a long time of back and forth discussions in some cases with the park and designers, and have all of that pretty much decided before they even start to work on the ground or manufacture parts. That can take anywhere from 1-3 years.

Then you have the building, which can include getting permits from local governments to build, clearning and other work, rebar and footers, and the actual building and construction of the track. Not to mention the fabrication of the track before it gets shipped. Add on at least another year for all of that.

In other words, for anything other than a minor coaster, it can be a pretty long, involved process. I know that SheiKra was at leat a 4-5 year project.

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[QUOTE=Commonsense]you can eat my panties for lunch if you want.[/QUOTE]

Give you a dollar for them.

Anyways, I wouldn't be surprised if Fujikyu works with S&S again as Dodonpa has been a pretty popular ride. Hopefully S&S won't design the layout themselves since they need to take a few coaster building classes.

^ He was just pointing out a simple error, don't blow a head gasket! lol. Anyway, back on topic, I can't find the link but there was a web page that stated the new ride will introduce the full-full, which is basically a zero g roll, in which the cars completely flip head-over-head opposite to the rotation of the roll. Disorienting... I think so! Intense... You know it!

Well according to Screamscape Fuji Q Highlands will announce their 4th Dimension coaster on NOV. 30th with the name or project name being Episode 3

^^ Matt a hottie like you can have them for free:p

It's not called Episode 3. It's just phase 3 of the big coasters they've put in during the past few seasons.

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