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Old 11-03-2005, 09:43 PM
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Future coaster types/layouts?

Does anyone have an idea/fantasy about the next type of coaster?

Mine is: A coaster with inverted standup (non floorless) trains, a launch, and the layout would be a mix of a giga/hyper and an invert. And it would have a water splash that gets you wet. How do you make a splash on an inverted coaster? Hmmmm......
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Old 11-03-2005, 09:51 PM
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Old 11-03-2005, 11:17 PM
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Don't you think an inverted standup, particularly one that big, would be just a [I]tad[/I] painful?
Personally I'd like to see very large and elaborate flying coasters, ones that can really accurately capture the experience of flight.
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Old 11-04-2005, 12:05 AM
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I've always wanted to see just a "regular" inverted-standup.
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Old 11-04-2005, 12:16 AM
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Standup invert... with a floor would be pointless if you were not in the front.. as you wouldnt see ANYTHING because in front of you would be a row.. and you couldnt look over because.. the car would hang under the track...
I would like to see a flyer with a watersplash :rollseyes:
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Old 11-04-2005, 12:28 AM
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A downward launch coaster, Simple, but the g's would kill unless a nice pullout was made


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Old 11-04-2005, 12:30 AM
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i would personally like to see a coaster thats like a big hampster ball and you get in and it just rolls up a hill and you go all over the freaking place...left, right, up , down, around...it would start out in a station and pull you out and up the hill and then it lets loose and you are just spining all around and then you come into a brake run area that brings you back upright and too the station.
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Old 11-04-2005, 01:20 AM
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well i think the next big thing for a coasters will exied 400 ft.(one with a lift hill) i know its going to take up alot of space but i know its going to happen eventualy.and ther are new advances in lifthills like elevator lifts and a prototype magnet lifts.
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Old 11-04-2005, 02:12 AM
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The Next Generation Large Capacity 4th Dimension coaster I'd like to see.
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Old 11-04-2005, 02:14 AM
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Lift hill for over 400ft? It is plausible, but the costs would be TO exspensive. If it was a traditional lift hill, the supports would have to be INSANELY strong because it would weigh tons and tons. If it had a special lift hill (like Millennium Force) it would be pricey, and a launch would be less exspensive and more thrilling. So unless we can find a light weight, low cost, lift hill majigger, this wont happen.

Now we could do a 3 degree downward launch segment with a KK launch, the distance of the launch and the 2 degree down would give a slight kick in speed possibly.

Coaster Idea: A coaster with a plain track, but the car has a arm attached to it, and the arm has 4 chairs on it, the arm is a "ball and socket" type arm and can free swing in any which way, though the number of riders per hour would be rather low, it would be a great thrill. For the seats you would probably want more then just 4 though... perhaps a circular seating arangement, to the arm attaches to the chairs vertically like on certain thrill rides. The train could have an arm sticking out of it that can go in any direction, and that arm is joined to another arm, which is joined to the car

---- and | are the arms that hold the car
= is the track
o is the joint that connects the two arms
<> box that the arm attaches to, box is also attached to track
[ and ] represent the car, WHICH IS CIRCULAR, the seats face inward(or outward, whatever seems cooler)


o-----[]
|
|
<>
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Now, the first arm that comes out of the box on the track ( the | lines) can move freely. The other arms ( the --- lines) can move freely two, thus the two of the arms when joined together can create a free swinging motion. The passengers sit at the end of the second arm. The circular seats could seat at least 10 so skip the 4 person idea, with 10 people sitting in a circle (facing eachother or not, both options are good) you could make a serious trill ride. Think of this thing going through loops, zero-g-rolls, cobra rolls, corkscrews, barrelrolls, and even top hats. THIS is a serious coaster.

Comment on this thing, I might patend it....
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Old 11-04-2005, 08:12 AM
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Hpoefully it will be solid... also it's hard to calculate the g's for that. One ride you get 4 + g's, and the next 9 - g's. Ow. I'd also like to see a maglev coaster that goes FAST. In the 200 mph range. Here's why it's not gonna happen:
1. Waaaayyyy too expensive.
2. Safety: at 200 mph, a small problem is a big problem.
3. Power transfer: Either the track would be lined with independently controllable electromagnets (not likely), or the electromagnets would be on the train. To do this, you need to transfer power to the train: probably by contact with metallic rails in the track. This defeats the point, though, and if a contact broke, let's say because of friction or heat, the train would grind to a halt.
4. If the control system failed, things could get outta hand.
The list goes on and on.....
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Old 11-04-2005, 08:48 PM
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A Flying coaster that doesn't suck
A Hydolic coster 0ver 128 that isn't rough
A standup coaster that doen't hurt
A corckscrew coaster that doent bruse

but what I would like to see is a floorless hydolric coaster useing the X-car that spins at at the same time
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Old 11-04-2005, 08:58 PM
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I would like to see a 200 mph rocket coaster with inversions
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Old 11-04-2005, 09:28 PM
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200 mph wont be happening in our lives, people would probably black out going at that speed unless in a pressurized compartment like a car or something....
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Old 11-04-2005, 09:50 PM
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[quote]i would personally like to see a coaster thats like a big hampster ball and you get in and it just rolls up a hill and you go all over the freaking place...left, right, up , down, around...it would start out in a station and pull you out and up the hill and then it lets loose and you are just spining all around and then you come into a brake run area that brings you back upright and too the station.
[/quote] That all ready exists, it's called a zorb. the only thing missing is the lift part. [URL="http://www.zorb.com/"]http://www.zorb.com/[/URL]
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Old 11-04-2005, 10:56 PM
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[quote=DSB]Hpoefully it will be solid... also it's hard to calculate the g's for that. One ride you get 4 + g's, and the next 9 - g's. Ow. I'd also like to see a maglev coaster that goes FAST. In the 200 mph range. Here's why it's not gonna happen:
1. Waaaayyyy too expensive.
2. Safety: at 200 mph, a small problem is a big problem.
3. Power transfer: Either the track would be lined with independently controllable electromagnets (not likely), or the electromagnets would be on the train. To do this, you need to transfer power to the train: probably by contact with metallic rails in the track. This defeats the point, though, and if a contact broke, let's say because of friction or heat, the train would grind to a halt.
4. If the control system failed, things could get outta hand.
The list goes on and on.....[/quote]

You wouldn't have to have an onride power system. Research on maglev trains and it's failproof. When I say failproof I mean that if the power supply fails (which is only supplying power to the track- there's superconductors on it) the superconductors continue to work. The only reason why maglev trains have a power supply on board is to power the heating/cooling and speed controls. Those are not needed on the train of a coaster.
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Old 11-04-2005, 11:13 PM
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I just want to see them master other designs first
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Old 11-04-2005, 11:30 PM
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Old 11-05-2005, 12:17 AM
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I'm all for the elaborate flyer idea. Another thing would be Ultratwister type rides making a comeback, but very smooth, and more creative designs.
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Old 11-05-2005, 12:29 AM
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I also hope that Huss will become the next Arrow Dynamics. Since Huss was working with Arrow for a limited time, they know the functions of an arrow looper.
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Old 11-05-2005, 12:41 AM
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[quote=James]Standup invert... with a floor would be pointless if you were not in the front.. as you wouldnt see ANYTHING because in front of you would be a row.. and you couldnt look over because.. the car would hang under the track...
I would like to see a flyer with a watersplash :rollseyes:[/quote]

You can't see anything unless your in the front row for an invert anways! :rolleyes:

I'd like to see a flyer with lots of pretzel loop like elements and not just horshoes! Also, a few more dive machines wouldn't be all that bad. How about a backwards facing dive machine?
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Old 11-05-2005, 01:25 AM
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...you guys actually ride the stuff you dream up here!

That would be the most efficient kind of "natural selection" for some of your so called "ideas" :p
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Old 11-05-2005, 02:41 PM
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[QUOTE=jimths08]How about a backwards facing dive machine?[/QUOTE]

That doesn't ruin the entire concept how?
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Old 11-07-2005, 11:21 AM
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That Zorb sit doesn't make sense!

anyhow, A backwards dive machine would be so scary becuase youll have no idea how far it is DOWN!

I personnally think they should get more kinds of backwards coasters!
(backwards rocket coaster...)

Or even a backwards flyer, going upside down, up, and straight down on drops! Flyer with elements (loop, cobra roll, zere g roll, etc.) would be awesome!
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Old 11-07-2005, 01:58 PM
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Backwards rocket coaster!?!?!!??!? The g's on the launch are easy to handle on a seat or something spread out across the body, but if your being pushed forward with the g's of a launch into restraints and belts you would be in WAY to much pain.
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Old 11-07-2005, 06:31 PM
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Old 11-07-2005, 07:52 PM
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[quote=JordanMullins]200 mph wont be happening in our lives ....[/quote]

The Intamin hydraulic launch can handle 200 mph, so we will see one like that in the future.
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Old 11-09-2005, 08:03 PM
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It can handle it, but can WE? also, can the mechanics? a 128 mph breaks all the time, so a 200 mph would most likley very unreliable. Also imagine gennting hit by like a bird or having an accident.
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