which of six flags 4 new coasters will be the best?

EL TORO-at SFGA that will hold the record for the steepst drop for a woody at 76 degrees.

GOLIATH-at SFOG it hits speeds of 70 mph and is so large it extends outside the park

GOLIATH-at la ronde its a mini hyper that reaches speeds of 68 mph.

TATSU-at SFMM this will be the tallest fastest flying coaster in the world.

Ill get to ride Goliath LR and El Toro at SFGadv.... Of the 2 I get to ride I think ET looks best but of the 4 in all I think SFOGs will be the best.

I'm going to go crazy over the fan turns in the 2nd half of El Toro - for sure. The coaster that seems in the unknown for me, the X factor that would probably provide the most airtime and kick for me will be Goliath (Superman) La Ronde.

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I'm putting my money on El Toro it's an Intamin plug n play airtime speed turning monster what more could you ask for.

I think Tatsu will be the best sf coaster for 2006 look at the facts on that coaster world's tallest and fastest flying coaster this is going to be a great coaster.

It's a tough one, this poll...

It's undeniable that all four will be big hits at their parks, respectively.

The two mini B&M hypers going into La Ronde and Over Georgia look like absolute airtime machines - and with their smaller stature in comparison to their predecessors, one can only be optimistic about the airtime that will soon be coming out the wazoo. With a lack of mid-course blocks, I doubt these babies will lose their pacing too. And all that talk about B&M hypers being forceless? I see a change in that way of thinking once these two compact Goliaths make their debut. P.S. Given Georgia's Goliath's impressive size and its location - it [i]will[/i] wreck havoc in traffic back-up and an increase in automobile collision. That thing is going to [i]turn heads[/i]. ;)

El Toro. What's left to be said about it? A perfect compliment to Great Adventure's already solid coaster lineup and mesmerizing skyline, and looks to be nothing short of spectacular. Three humongous drops, with the opening one being the steepest to its kind in the world - which I can only imagine the sensation that will produce when pulling over from the top...(think Perilous Plunge on an Everest scale). It's even got a *sweet* looking ground-hugging section that looks to mix things up in the ride experience. And can we mention, high speed dynamic wooden coaster thrills without the shuffling and bouncing that we're all so familiar with other woodies of such magnitude? I can't get over the ride's location too. Nestled between a creek and new themed area, and flanked on both sides by Rolling Thunder and Medusa, I'm sure guests pulling up to the parking lot will have their eyes occupied just looking at the sheer size of that towering wood. There's no doubt El Toro will shovel in the crowds next season.

Then we end at Tatsu. It takes the Flying coaster concept and all previously existing rides in that category, and bombardes them all into oblivion. Just think of it: a Flying coaster that will actually for once emphasize FLYING high above the treeline - on a heavily forested mountainside, featuring all the praised maneuvers of previous installations - [i]but[/i] with MORE. A 103' tall Flying [i]outside[/i] Corkscrew? A 96' tall [i]zero-gravity roll[/i] taken in the Flying position? [i]AND[/i] a gigantic 124' tall pretzel loop? And it's lift hill being 55-feet taller than the runner up in the Flyer height category? Who are you kidding? You know you want to [i]tap that[/i].

You see how hard it is to come up with a pick between these four? :) It's not easy. So...I didn't vote. :D

^ your not making it easier for me to vote!

Since i haven't rode a hyper in my life the 2 goliaths are out!
Since i haven't rode a woodie in my lyfe El Toro is out!
Since i haven't rode a flying coaster in my life Tatsu is out!

It will be unfair for me to vote but i'll vote for Tatsu!
I can only imagine flying over revolution, around the skytower, and an Outside CORKSCREW!! Its colors looks awesome and i love dragons!

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It is my homepark, so I have to say Goliath. This has potential to be a top 5 ride for me, and it's only 20 minutes away. I couldn't have dreamed something this good!

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I'm putting my money on El Toro, Intamin plug n play airtime monster what more could you ask for.

Second running would be Goliath SFOG

The other two BLah j/k Goliath La Ronde looks cool on the repetitive side but still cool

Tatsu looks ok

I'll wait til I actually get a chance to ride them before I decide. I've seen to many coasters that looked great turn out to be a wash out, and vice versa, to even attempt to guess ahead of time anymore.

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Out of those it looks like I will only get to ride SFOG's Goliath and Tatsu. I voted for Tatsu simply because I love coasters that have inversions and offer the sense of flight. Although, I have a hunch that both will easily make it into my top ten, if not my top five.

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I love hypers and wooden coasters, I've never rode a flyier but I voted Tatsu just because it looks better than the other coasters.

Goliath at La Ronde ought to bet the best since it will be the sole reason that park will see a greater percentage increase in gate attendance than the other 3 parks.

Other than that, the best one is whatever your damn preference is fool, we all have different tastes.

I think anyone whose moved past the realm of finger paint and happy meals ought to see that El Toro is the most significant addition of the four in question. The B&M hyper is just making its rounds again, I wouldn't expect anything out of the ordinary - and that's not a bad thing.

I'm assuming the lot of you have taken in a Superman: Ultimate Flight, I've booked all 3, and I wouldn't expect Tatsu to be so much more different than the trio, just a little bigger, little faster. It's kind of like B:TR vs. Raptor, the same progression.

But a gen. 2 Intamin wood is very much something to anticipate. Colossos and Balder have built a strong reputation for the pre-fab track Intamin woodies; what was Balder's rank in 2003?
I forget. :confused: El Toro ought to complement the only other Intamin wood in U.S., the I-beam Eagle at SFGAm, quite well.

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I'll have to go with Tatsu. That ride is going to be awesome.

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Tatsu, but El Toro looks pretty cool too.

El Toro
Tatsu
Goliath G
Goliath LR

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Tatsu will look great, but it is an oversized S:UF (which is my 2nd to least favorite B&M). But, since it will be so high up on the mountain and its location, it will provide a one of a kind thrill.

El Toro will be the best of the group. Ask anyone who has ridden Balder or Colossos, and they will tell you Toro will be something VERY special, as it is almost a mix of the 2 with great surroundings.

The 2 Goliath's look neat, but SFOG's will be the better of the 2. Looks to be AC and Nitro's offspring....which is a VERY good thing.

So all in all, it will look like this:

El Toro
Goliath at SFOG
Tatsu
Goliath at La Ronde

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^yes, because SUF definitely has a corkscrew and that layout...


My vote goes to Tatsu, because the feeling of flying so high will be awesome, and it's 1 hr. away from me

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Since Burke and Co are officially voted out, I still have to give it to them. They gave us all this. They went out with a bang.

The Debt still sucks!

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Datman, notice how he said [I]oversized[/I] SUF layout. Sure it SUF doesn't have a corkscrew, but it does have an inline twist and a pretzel loop. Other than that, Tatsu still looks great.

I voted for El Toro, because it is at my home park, and I think it will more unique than the two B&M Hypers.

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/\ Yeah, and El Toro is just an oversized Shivering Timbers. :rolleyes:

Tatsu is a oversized S:UF, period. Similar drops, it has the inline twist, 2 of those turns, and a pretzel loop. Only differences are they come in bigger size and are higher above.

You can't say Toro is an oversized ST because they are made by totally different manufacturer's, and aside from the 2 camelback and its lienear based layout, they are totally different, especially the feel of them.

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[QUOTE=Chris L]/\ Yeah, and El Toro is just an oversized Shivering Timbers. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
But unlike timbers... ElToro could be good.

I'm saying Tatsu. I love flying coasters, though I've only ridden Vekoma ones and this will most likely be my first B&M one. Not only is it a flyer (which in itself is nearly enough to call it the best of these four), but it's the tallest and the fastest one out there, or at least it will be. Might even dethrone Goliath from the position of MM's #2 coaster in my book.

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[QUOTE=James]But unlike timbers... ElToro could be good.[/QUOTE]

Hey! Leave Timbers alone, it's a great ride. ;)

El Toro looks fantastic, it gets my vote for the "possible" best of the four coasters.

I do have to laugh at people calling Tatsu an oversized Superman. To me that's like calling Montu or Raptor oversized versions of Batman. Similar elements yes, but each ride has it's own forces and rates FAR differently. For this reason, I'll place Tatsu second, for now. The Goliath's look sweet and I love Nitro and Apollo, so those to will rate evenly for now.

Of course ALL of this could change once the rides open. Suppose El Toro disappoints in the airtime department? Then what? Suppose Tatsu is B&M at their most forceless?

There are far too many question marks until you actually ride them.

But in terms of instalations, all 4 are winners because the GP will LOVE them, and they all look like people eaters in terms of capacity, which is already a step ahead of X and Kinda Krap.

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[QUOTE=Nitro1118]Tatsu is a oversized S:UF, period. Similar drops, it has the inline twist, 2 of those turns, and a pretzel loop. Only differences are they come in bigger size and are higher above.

You can't say Toro is an oversized ST because they are made by totally different manufacturer's, and aside from the 2 camelback and its lienear based layout, they are totally different, especially the feel of them.[/QUOTE]

You forgot to mention two more differences between Tatsu and Superman Ultimate Flight(s). Some very big ones that you so conveniently left out, which I'm sure shows to me you haven't completely reviewed it. A 103-foot tall Flying outside corkscrew, something Superman does not have. A 96-foot tall Flying outside zero-gravity roll, something else Superman does not have. I'm just saying, if you're going to make the effort to compare and contrast a ride to make it look bad, then please, be thorough and cover everything. I'm quite certain that if Great Adventure had built Tatsu instead of Superman Ultimate Flight, you'd be singing a different tune. ;) :)

And I only said El Toro is just an oversized Shivering Timbers as a sarcastic comment in spite of what you said about Tatsu. See? My point was that El Toro and Tatsu, respectively, are unique and not too similar to anything that preceeds them. I certainly do not think El Toro is just an oversized Shivering Timbers. I think El Toro is a unique, well executed ride design that promises to be deliver. Same said with Tatsu.

I think all four rides look great. The only thing I dislike about three out of four of them is that I won't be able to ride them in their debut season :(

So many coasters,so little time. At least La Ronde's coaster is not the same as SFOG's version,colorwise. Until next time. SES

I have to give it to SFMM, Tatsu sounds awesome. I can't wait to see it up and running. They have won back my affection with this one. I wasn't sure if they were serious about this at first. I thought it was just a rumor and to have actually getting put in is a great sign. SFMM is turning around and I am proud of them for this one.

Tatsu wins my vote.

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El Toro gets my vote, as it seems like it will be an excellent woodie. All 4 coasters look awesome, though.

[quote=Chris L]You forgot to mention two more differences between Tatsu and Superman Ultimate Flight(s). Some very big ones that you so conveniently left out, which I'm sure shows to me you haven't completely reviewed it. A 103-foot tall Flying outside corkscrew, something Superman does not have. A 96-foot tall Flying outside zero-gravity roll, something else Superman does not have. I'm just saying, if you're going to make the effort to compare and contrast a ride to make it look bad, then please, be thorough and cover everything. I'm quite certain that if Great Adventure had built Tatsu instead of Superman Ultimate Flight, you'd be singing a different tune. ;) :)

And I only said El Toro is just an oversized Shivering Timbers as a sarcastic comment in spite of what you said about Tatsu. See? My point was that El Toro and Tatsu, respectively, are unique and not too similar to anything that preceeds them. I certainly do not think El Toro is just an oversized Shivering Timbers. I think El Toro is a unique, well executed ride design that promises to be deliver. Same said with Tatsu.

I think all four rides look great. The only thing I dislike about three out of four of them is that I won't be able to ride them in their debut season :([/quote]

1) The corkscrew is the only new thing on Tatsu. Everything else, like I said before....is oversized!

2) As I said before, tatsu will be a great ride because of the terrain, and its a lot bigger than S:UF, so of course I'd want it over S:UF!

3) El Toro has Colossos' exact same first half, minus the drop and slightly more drawn out turnaround. That doesn't make it not the best, though, as Colossos has an amazing reputation. Same can't be said for S:UF (although I do feel Tatsu will be great).

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