Ok, I just want to clarify something because a lot of people have been saying things like "Hypers dont go upside down" and "It cant be a hyper because it goes upside down" and so on. HYPERCOASTERS CAN, CAN!, GO UPSIDE DOWN. Remember Steel Phantom?....

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by MForce2k [/i]
[B]Ok, I just want to clarify something because a lot of people have been saying things like "Hypers dont go upside down" and "It cant be a hyper because it goes upside down" and so on. HYPERCOASTERS CAN, CAN!, GO UPSIDE DOWN. Remember Steel Phantom?.... [/B][/QUOTE]

AMEN.

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Why didn't yo post this in that post you saw that in, instead of posting a whole new post about it? I hate when people clutter up the board with these posts...

Besides, i think everybody knows that, but that person that said that.

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sp is not a hyper. hypers are not defined by drop, elements, restraints, support type, track layout, or any other thing except.....HEIGHT. 200+ feet in height and u have yourself a hyper. if not it's not a hyper. therefore MF, sd2k, S:TE, and tot are all hypers in my opinion.

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It's all just personal opinion so don't get upset that people think differently then you. You don't need to "set them straight".

I agree with MForce2k

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Hypers are all a matter of opinion. IMO, a hyper should have a drop of 200 ft. or more, but be of significant height. ie: Apollo's Chariot is 170 ft. tall, but drops 210 ft. It's a hyper according to me!

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i agree but who really cares what other people say

Hyper---a coaster with a drop of over 200 feet........It can have anything!!!!!! as long its 200 feet in the drop, it can execute any manuever in exsistance and still be a hyper

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I agree with all of you but I think that it can't be a shuttle coaster and it must be a complete circit coaster.

Yup a hyper is a coaster that exceeds 200 ft. Any elements are independent of the classification.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by sfmm2004 [/i]
[B]sp is not a hyper. hypers are not defined by drop, elements, restraints, support type, track layout, or any other thing except.....HEIGHT. 200+ feet in height and u have yourself a hyper. if not it's not a hyper. therefore MF, sd2k, S:TE, and tot are all hypers in my opinion. [/B][/QUOTE]
yes
but i think it should be complete circuit also

When I created this, I had no intent of starting an argument or anything. And i couldnt post it iwhere I saw them because there were too many people saying it, and I know what A hypercoaster is. STEEL PHANTOM, i thought, was a hypercoaster, I could be wrong. I had no intent of starting an argument or having this be a big thing, and I know people can think differently, I was just informing the people that didnt know so please do not be mad at me.

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Don't worry everyone, I am here to set everything straight.

A hyper cannot go upside down. Also, a hyper does not have to be 200 feet, or have a 200 foot drop. Thank you.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by RiFT [/i]
[B]Don't worry everyone, I am here to set everything straight.

A hyper cannot go upside down. Also, a hyper does not have to be 200 feet, or have a 200 foot drop. Thank you. [/B][/QUOTE]
yes it does have to be 200 feet (some people consider a 200 foot drop a hyper also) and it can have inversions just because most don't doesnt mean they cant

imo it has to be either 200 ft. tall or have a drop of 200 ft. or more.

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I also agree that indicating which hyper is which all comes to personal opinion. Actually, if a theme park declares their coaster to be a hypercoaster, then it is a hypercoaster no matter what. To me, a hypercoaster is a coaster that features a traditional out-and-back layout, mimicking its wooden coaster counterparts. Did you know traditional hypers are mean to imitate the older wooden out-and-backs or even wooden twisters (hence hyper-twisters exist)? I abide by this rule strictly, so anything out of the ordinary that is placed in a hypercoaster layout (example: inversions) doesn't get as much of my consideration to be a hyper. I mean if designers add inversions on their hypers, I wouldn't really consider them to be hypers anymore. Instead, I'd probably just consider them to be mega loopers. Another thing, height and drop are important factors to when it comes to deciding which coaster is a definite hyper or not. As long as its statistics include a 200 foot height and/or drop and doesn't feature any inversions, then the coaster is a hypercoaster. It doesn't really matter if a coaster is 290 feet tall and features a 120 foot long first drop or if a coaster's 165 feet tall and features a 215 foot long first drop. Just as long as the coaster has a traditional layout without any inversions, it's a hypercoaster. Sigh, just over ten years ago when Magnum XL-200 debuted (1989), we'd think that there wouldn't be a lot of hypers. Heh, heh, were we wrong or what? Hypers are more abundant throughout the world today, and we'll just keep on seeing more of these extreme coaster creations in the future.

If hypers have to be 200 feet tall or have a 200-foot drop, how come Magnum is a hypercoaster? I thought it was about 4 feet shy of 200.

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Also a hypercoaster doesn't have to be like a wooden out-and- back. It can twist and turn like Goliath and Raging Bull.

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Magnum is 205 ft tall and has a 194 ft drop.

Do we really need to care what they're clasified as?

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Hypers can have loops imo, but i prefer to call coasters like steel phantom mega coasters. But they are still hypers. I personally think hypers would be alot better if they had inversions.

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Coalhouse [/i]
[B]It's all just personal opinion so don't get upset that people think differently then you. You don't need to "set them straight". [/B][/QUOTE]

Actually not really, there is a cut and dry definition for hyper, and this is still seems to be unknown.....

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