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hulkrider, I said that last page.

Wow, those things are just bad looking. Why black padding, it should've at least been blue. Does TTD have sidebars too?

Well sfog freak, was TTD your first rocket? Because Hypersonic has more acceleration than TTD and Xcelerator, I counted it. Hypersonic is even more forceful than KK, I counted that too.

Come to think of it, those sidebar might make it easier to rest my arms when I hold my camera.......

I don't think they look bad at all.

Wow, was the park empty that day or what?

I was wondering the same thing. Also, do the ops pay close attention to if you're carrying a camera? Mine is the size of a credit card, 1.5 inches think, will they let me make a video? And how long is the ride, < or > 30 seconds?

1:02 according to RCDB but that's ridiculous I think thats in cluding the stop at the brake run and turn into the station.
http://www.rcdb.com/quicksearch.htm?...rch=Xcelerator

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Anyone can see that a 0-80 launch in 1.8 seconds ls *much* more powerful than a 0-128 launch in 3.8 or whatever. That's just about instant speed. Then you have Dodonpa which is 0-108 in 1.8 seconds. That's insane.

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Indeed, I hope not, a got a digi photo cam, and it can make movies that are 30 seconds max. So anything about how the ops think of cameras? (post 153)

No, TTD doesn't have those. I think it's just because the state of CA ordered the park to put those on.

No, Xcelerator was my first. I remember my first ride so well. Coming into the brake run on my first ride I kept saying how that was sooooo much better then MF, but after riding it 40+ times I realized it wasn't.

Also, I hate Hypersonics launch compared to Xcelerators and TTD's. On Hypersonic your mind can't even process whats happening because of how fast in accelerates. On TTD and Xcelerator you can actually understand whats going on.

Disagree, I was able to completely absorb the 1.8 seconds of that launch. It wasn't instant to me, I felt a long period of my body being pushed back, before I felt the train begin to ascend. On a LIM launch such as Volcano or B:TR, I was actually surprised at how long it seemed to take, even before I've ever ridden anything faster. I usually don't consider launches to be very intense, and now that I think about it, I might know why: I never had the feeling of wind in my face. For some reason, I never got the front of any launch coasters, and I can't imagine why. I'll change that on two coasters in 3 weeks though.

The bars are not on Top Thrill Dragster. I think the only reason they're on Xcelerator is because California OSHA is really strict when it comes to safety.
Cedar Fair parks are really strict about bringing loose articles on rides. If you want to make an on-ride video of Xcelerator, think again. If you post about doing it here, you may also be banned.

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Yea, I guess it's a bad idea, unless there is no one at the park and I ask the officials.

Wow, I just found something really cool. This is an on board sound clip of a guy riding TTD.

You may think the guy is overreacting, but he's not. I showed just about the same emotions on my first ride...............

http://www.cleveland.com/entertainme...udio0501.frame

Ok, well maybe he is overreacting, but still....it is a very intense ride.

K.........

I wonder if they tested Xcelerator at top speed more than that one day they did.

Has anyone ridden Xcelerator with the new sidebars? Was it that different from before?

Watch it, it's not that different. Look, just add it up:

0-80 in 1.8
0-128 in 3.5

If 0-80 in 1.8, then 0-40 in .9, then 0-120 in 2.7
If 0-80 in 1.8, then 0-8 in .18
2.7 + .18 = 2.88
So theoretically, with the exact same amount of pneumatic power that Hypersonic uses, but continued further, it would only take .62 seconds quicker then the power for KK. Dodonpa though, well, that beats it by a longshot, and apparently, it seems any pneumatic launch can take 1.8 seconds, and well, KK.......pneumatic........yea, guess not.

But we were talking about the power of Hypersonics propulsion, not any pneumatic launch.

^ i don't know does it work like that? maybe after some time the rate that with spped and time changes, but u probably know better than me so i'll stop talking now.

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I will gain more respect for rockets when Intamin can get it launching faster then Dodonpa.

^That would be soooooo awesome! An Intamin rocket going 100+ would be the best ever!

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um...I don't want to be the one to tell you this...But TTD is an Intamin rocket and goes over 100.

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All is based on the general rate of acceration (average), but it's pretty close anyway.

I can almost assure you that the next intamin rocket that is taller, faster than kingda ka will be more forcefull than hypersonics launch.

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Seeing how the rate of acceleration has been going from TTD to KK, that would be about right. But I want to see S&S get hired to make a 0-140 in 1.8, and then a hige vertical spike hill. I'd probably be the only one in line though.

In my opinion I think S&S Airthrusts have very boring layouts...I would only hope if a park asked them to make a record breaker with such acceleration that they incorporate a little Arrow into it like they are doing with PowderKeg and make the layout more interesting than that tight vertical spike. Maybe even incorporate their own type of top hat since most launching coasters have one now adays. (Premier, Intamin, and possibly S&S) I just don't think they layout and elements they use now will cut it for a 0-140 mph coaster.

This is under the assumption that acceleration is linear. It isn't but the number you used happened to be close because the differences between acceleration and your linear approximation are close in that range. If the launch is much longer, the numbers become extraneous. Here are the average accelerations for each ride.

140MPH in 1.8..... = 3.64 g's
Dodompa.............= 2.71 g's
Hypersonic XLC... = 2.03 g's
Kingda Ka............= 1.67 g's
Xcelerator...........= 1.63 g's
Top Thrill Dragster = 1.47 g's

Not really. It doesn't change the ride experience, the restraining side bar of the seat is was made larger as a precautious measure to the incidences where large people fell off Intamin rides. The only bad part about the sidebars are that they are an eyesore. They are wrapped in black material so it clashes with the seafoam green seats.

Marc, yes, I did assume that it was soley depending on comparing Hypersonic and KK, ot show that they're not that different, but it all depends on how you think of it.

S&S, yea, they got boring layouts, but remeber, first it was a protoype, so they couldn't make it huge, then it was a Japanese park, which either have tiny or huge layouts. I think that the pneumatic coaster thing is useless in the industry, it's too loud when all of that gas comes up. Hydraulics seem to be more efficient, and probably cheaper too.

I simply closed the gap in your statement. I also compared the fastest three hydraulics with the two pneumatics with one you suggested.

Launching with an acceleration of 3.6 g's would have a pretty harsh kick to it. I think it would be close to not rideable. Even with that in mind, I would still ride it.

Even with Pneumatic tires and shock absorbers, S&S coasters are a bit on the rough side. They could use a better track design.

^ Thats one of the things that really bugs me about Hypersonic. On some parts, the track pieces aren't even bolted together......and i'm not joking. I noticed many open gaps between a few track segments, and you can really feel them when riding. So yeah, they could definitely use a new track design.

Yea, if you look at he video on www.americacoasters.com about Hypersonic and Volcano, it show how when the track banks from left ro right, it actually levels, and then banks the other way. It's pretty bad.

^ I'm pretty sure that was the idea. Either for the on-ride photo or for more of an interesting layout.

That is the roughest part of the ride, though.

Maybe those parts were pre manufactured, and they didn't want to make new onse. Remember the protoype had a rectangle layout, almost the same, but not quite as Hypersonic. So one of those pieces was taken from it.

Heyy you forgot storm runner on the list! 0-72 in 1.9 haha. Anyways about the layouts of the s&s launch coasters, i have never seen the whole layout but dodonpa's layout looks pretty well but the ride reviews about it have been pretty bad.

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