What coasters/rides have Single Rider Lines that allow those by themselves to have a shorter wait?

Add those that you know of for certain to this list!

Diamondback, Kings Island
Maverick, Cedar Point
Test Track, Epcot

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Test Track & other Disney rides
Spiderman & other IOA rides
Mummy's Revenge & other USF rides
Maverick
Griffon (given when some incompetent employees don't randomly close it for literally no reason)
Fahrenheit (same as above)

That's all I can think of right off hand. I wish more rides had single rider lines though. IMO, all 4+ seats coasters should have them. Even when I go with people, we're more than willing to skip a two hour line with the chance we won't sit together (though on rides like Griffon, its relatively likely you'll sit with at least some of them).

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Not sure if they still use it, but Time Warp at Canada's Wonderland used to have one.

For some reason, guests at CW don't like single rider lines. The single rider line on Italian Job didn't even last the first season. Guests in the main line thought it was unfair they had to wait longer than people by themselves. Even so, the single rider line started maybe 30ft from the loading area.

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Ha, well I guess I'll be real unpopular here and say I used the hell out of Griffons solo-line the week it opened (and on Memorial Day Weekend) and got 4 rides in about 15mins when the stand by was around 90mins.

Sue me? If the park has it. i don't see why I shouldn't use it.

And to add on to the list...At SFNE Superman has one (added 2 years ago?) but it doesn't seem to ever be open. Pandemonium at SFNE also has one.. And I use it almost every time I ride the coaster. And while not a coaster.. Scream (S&S tower) also has one. And I use it almost every trip to SFNE.

The best thing Magic Mountain ever did was have a single rider line on Deja Vu, i'd get 3 rides in a half an hour. Then there'd be those days where employees on power trips would just close it for no apparent reason, eventually leading to its demise. I wish X2 had a single rider line, but I guess its just too much for SF to handle (not surprised).

I love single rider lines, its better to fill in all the empty seats for higher capacity, they're just gonna be empty anyway! I can't remember how many times I've seen a B&M leave the station with 2 or 3 empty seats in a row because a party of 3 or 4 refuses to split up. Let people who don't care where they sit get on and off, at least they're not holding up the line.

I don't care who I'm sitting next to when I'm on a coaster, it doesn't change the ride experience.

Single rider lines are great. If you want that desperately to sit by your friends or pick your seat, then the penance you have to pay is waiting in line. Seems fair to me.

SRL is how I got 3 rides in 1 hour on Diamondback. Could have gotten more but they were handling it rather poorly and kept running out of the silly single rider passes and refusing to let people in the line without them. Hopefully they get the system straightened out by next weekend, as I will be power-lapping on Friday night, most of Saturday, and most of Sunday. I'm trying for 100 rides by Sunday night.

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Um what? It isn't exploiting anything at all. Nothing is stopping YOU from using the single rider line. The only reason the single rider line is often short is because most people DO want to ride together, or they don't understand what the single rider line is, so they don't use it.

All it does is fill in seats that would otherwise be sent empty, thus increasing the overall number of guests carried per hour. It does NOT, in any way, affect the wait time of the regular line (Fastpass style systems, on the other hand...). That said, there are times when the single rider line is short, but I find that often, you end up waiting at least half of the regular wait, or more.

I mean seriously, this sounds like something a clueless park guest would say... not someone who knows/has worked in parks. Were you joking?

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It's called capacity. Look it up in the dictionary.

I agree that to say the line is being exploited is probably not the correct term since parks understand small groups will choose to enter a SRL as seperate parties of one. The problem is this option is more easily decided by groups of a certain make-up. This is great for say a group of 3 teens. But lets say you have a family of 4, or you're on date with a girl. Kind of sucks to be you then, because you really have no choice but to wait in that 2.5 hour line. While true the single rider line doesn't effect the wait time of the regular line, it does allow select groups the advantage of riding an attraction much quicker than others. I mean at what point are fathers telling their children, "Sorry kids, I know we all wanted to ride together as a family, but this line is so much shorter."

I am actually shocked that you of all people don't atleast see the concerns with the SRL. It was working at Disney itself that showed me the importance of customer service, especially over something such as capacity, (Yes I realize Disney leads the industry in SRL lines, however, I don't agree with their decision to use them. A few SRLs have been removed, including Toy Story Mania for some time, which failed because crowds looking to get into a shorter line by choosing the SRL, caused the line's wait to exceed that of the regular line). Much like as seen with Canada's Wonderland, it upsets people to know they're waiting longer because of their group make-up. And at what cost? So the ride's numbers are up at the end of the day? The majority of which is small groups, who if not for taking advantage of the SRL, probably would not have re-rode. I feel the capacity with a full-length SRL is only slighty more effective as compared with a ride host assigning groups of 2 together, and groups of 3 with single riders that come up from a split somewhere near the end of the line.

Bottom line: No one wants to wait in line any longer than they have to. I've been a single rider before and I never felt it unfair that I should have to wait in line just like everyone else. I really just have a deep hatred for the SRL because of how it closely resembles a "marathon line". When I was a ride op, I hated people who tried to marathon because it wasn't fair to the people waiting. But using the logic of the SRL, marathoning is ok because, "Capacity is number 1, so despite the fact you've just got off the ride and haven't waited like everyone else, go ahead and find a seat, because every empty seat must be filled for the best capacity!"

I don't appreciate you attacking my validity because my opinion differs from yours. If it was so clear the advantages of SRLs, I would think that every new major attraction would install them. (Even Diamondback limits it's number of single riders.) I would hope you could realize the topic is still under debate and at least deserves a closer examination from the parks themselves. I mean after all, isn't it the clueless park guests they are catering to?

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Ok, since we got completely off the original topic...

Are there any other rides besides those listed that run single rider lines of some form?

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Single rider lines were truly a blessing. I go in there honestly as a single rider because I go to most parks alone.
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Thanks for the DB info Viola.

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I've also heard that SFMM had them at one point, but I don't know if they still do.

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I don't think there are any at SFOG. They just ask if there are any single riders when there are empty seats.

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Thats the point, you want to ride with your friends, other's couldn't care less who they sit with/where they sit. You have the same right to use it if you want to but choose not to. Would you rather have empty seats on all the trains being dispatched? Your rant is ridiculous...

Apollo's Chariot used to have one, I never used it though because I always wanted to ride in the front or back.

edit: My family has in the past chosen to use the single rider many times because we would rather wait half the time and get more stuff done rather than sit next to each other for a couple minutes on a ride. So your generalization about who uses lines is not entirely correct. Anyone can use these lines so its not "discriminating" or w/e you want to call it.

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I think this is a perfect example of how single rider lines have a bit of a double standard.

If a ride doesn't have one, the park runs the risk of having empty seats and then people in line complaining that there were empty seats on the train that should be filled to make the line move faster. (Pretty much every B&M - I always see two open seats because a group of 2 will go before a group of 3 or 4 that isn't going to split. The attendants can ask for a group of 2, but that just holds up dispatch).

If a ride does have one, then the park runs the risk of people complaining that it isn't fair how people don't have to wait as long because they aren't with other people.

That's the exact way Canada's Wonderland had theirs for Time Warp and Italian Job, but people still complained. Guests apparently had the mentality of "if someone else can get on the ride 10-20min faster, then screw them, it's not fair."

You're at a theme park, you should realize that you will have to wait in lines that can be several hours long.

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Being a "TRUE SINGLE RIDER" myself I am VERY thankful for these lines. Nothing irritates me more than seeing a train go up with a bunch of empty seats on it. See I am really am a single rider as my kids are too young/small to ride anything and my wife does not ride. My brother-in-law and my sister both ride but I rarely go with them at all. I also will often swing up to BGE or KD after work one evening and hit a few rides by myself since I am not far from either park and these lines are a true godsend to me.

Even on rides where there is now SRL I will often try to move up whenever I see an empty spot on a train. Sure I will have already waited the 30, 45, 60 mins like the rest but at least I can get on a little sooner. Most folks don't mind you riding with them so long as you are in your "own" seat. I would not ride with a stranger on a woodie or other coaster where a seat is shared as most folks are not comfortable with that (it has happened to me though).

I understand people's complaints about SRLs and see it all the time myself. I don't agree with the misuse/abuse of this but I also am not complaining about it. I also will not wait more than an hour for a ride -- I would rather do other things even if it means missing that coaster.

I remember when loading crews would ask for SRs in the main Que and move us up to fill the coaster sadly you almost never see that anymore. Loading crews would rather just send up a train with 1 person per row than hassle with it (Sheikra and Griffon being the exception to that).

I for one hope SRLs stay and are done even more as I sure do appreciate them.

Greg

^^^Well put. I completely agree. The SRL is a way to maximize capacity, but at the cost of upsetting guests and I really don't see that as an equal trade-off. Call me old-fashioned, but I never saw anything wrong with everyone waiting the same amount of time for an attraction.

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The only one I ever got to use or saw was Test Track's and Mulholland Madness which although just a wild mouse cut a lot of line waiting out of my day!

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Marcus, I'm sorry, a-hem, CeDaRPoInTzTeR, who clearly is speaking in this thread; realize that almost every rides manager is a D.O.R whore. I'll say I didn't mind the single rider lines at Universal on Mummy, it was quite rediculous, but I'm sure it made the crew look a whole hell of a lot more efficient than they actually were.

Now, for the record, I'll say that I don't agree with single rider lines ONLY on B&M's. This is why: The Art of the Marathon. You haven't lived until you have waited in an hour+ line for sayyyy Raging Bull, and upon return from your first ride, in the calamity of load/unload, try to sneak in another ride, or . . 5 lol. The art is to fool the ride ops, be incognito, savvy, because you know they'll eventually find you. It's a sport for rider and ride op alike. Personally, I loved catching marathoners when I worked SUF @ SFGAm, it made my day. And if it was too late and they were already in their seats, I'm not breaking interval, I staple that mofo harder than anyone in the industry, ask Dragster crew '07 about the work I've done.

In that way, another ride obtained is a ride earned, and you can't tell me that a 5 min single rider line rightfully earns the same, since groups demand a ride together so much that they'll invest an hour of their time.

On another note, you want to know what is BS and very exploitable, the parent swap system at Cedar Point. At least in '07, you didn't even have to prove that you had a child that was too small to ride something, with part of the group riding first and the other part watching the small child, and then they swap spots at the exit platform. So many times there were guys my age falsely using these things, but since I couldn't prove it, I had to let them on Dragster w/o a minute's wait.

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No but see, here's the funny thing: That's what it ultimately comes down to.

Unused seats on coaster trains are added minutes for people waiting in line. Using the entire coaster's capacity, speeds up lines.

Do I need to make a Wikipedia entry for you?

Wait, I'm confused.

Is you flaming me on the internet supposed to make me want to use Single Rider Lines or not?

So, just so we are all on the same page....we are now flaming each other, all because Marcus saw some people use the single rider line, a line that he himself very well at any point could use but chooses not to, and he hates them because of it?

Am I missing something?

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Single rider lines are evil because only "teenagers use them" apparently... His family is being persecuted against and it is wrong for some reason apparently. Even though his family (who wants to sit together mind you) is not at all effected by single, EMPTY seats being filled by people who don't care where they sit or who they sit with.

These people aren't stealing your seat or anyone else's. Those seats would be empty otherwise.

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I have to side with those that support having single rider lines, because I am always a single visitor myself. I agree with having them, especially on tower rides. My two home parks don't have single rider lines (with the only exception of the Tony Hawk coaster)

I have seen way too many times where there are several open seats with the lines being quite long. I don't mind a couple open seats per run (maybe one or two), but when you see more than a handful of open seats (like 5-10 empty on a train run), someone just needs to get on and speed the line up. Why waste all these open seats when people could be riding them and enjoying the ride.

I've seen instances on B&Ms when a single, followed a group of four, got on a seat while the other four just waited so they could all go together leaving three empty seats and only the one rider. Either the lone rider move to a different row and make way for the foursome to ride or the foursome break up and ride separately. There are solutions to this if people can just stop and think for just a second.

Basically the way I see it, if those of you waiting hours in line don't want to take those open seats, those of us single riders will take them.

I also I call for those of the single riders to at least be considerate of groups of visitors. If you see a group waiting behind you in line for a B&M, surely there will be other open spots, move to a different row so that the group after you can just hop on without waiting on you. If you're can't locate an open seat from your point of view or not sure if there is one, just ask a ride attendant to find you an open seat. It is very unusual on B&Ms to see the train filled without singles filling in; there should be something open most of the time.

And to the groups, have the courtesy to let single riders by you when there is an open seat so they don't have to keep waiting, it would also save time for those behind you as well. I've had people in front of me in line that made me wait after them even though there was an open seat in the row I was waiting because they were adamant that the "first come, first serve" philosophy is not flexible.

It works both ways, both sides can help each other. There are solutions for the rides that do not have single-rider lines. I'll say it again: If those of you waiting in line don't want to take the open seat available, those of us single rider will take them.

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Ok . .ok . .I got it, what if I enter the regular queue line for Diamondback with my friends and at the same time some punkass teenager and his gf enters the single rider line. They get on in record time AND sit together, and then he sees me as he exits and mocks me for still having to wait. Suddenly, I'm disadvantaged, because he's a douchebag and the single rider line has prompted him to show it. And alas . . I'm trapped in line, and can't go beat him til he's coughing up blood, lest I forfeit my spot in line. I believe this is the very problem CeDaRPoInTzTeR was getting at.



^Who wouldn't want to fight this kid?

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That thoery works IF he gets to sit with his GF. Either a.) the supervisor running the SRL at Diamondback won't let them on in the first place or b.) they're going to get split up at the station. Of the times I went through the single rider line, I saw only one instance of two single riders getting to ride together because there was a group of 4 next in line, followed by a group of 3, and there was one row left empty, so they grabbed the next 2 single riders (one of which happened to be me) to sit in that empty row.

I also saw 2 people get kicked off the ride (though not from the park) in two different instances for abusing the SRL. Their group had waited in line so they went through the SRL to try and 'catch up' with them. The ride ops noticed that they were standing on the stairs talking to their group, and told them to leave the line. They were not allowed in the SRL for the rest of the night.

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People get on single-rider lines because there are open seats to begin with....no one else in the queue line wants them. If the trains were full, then the single riders will be the ones waiting for the next train or however many trains until there is one available. Theoretically, single riders could be waiting just as long as those in regular lines if there are no open spots available, but that doesn't happen because there are open seats that could be filled if no one else waiting in line want them.

I also think PANTSFREE also help sum it up, when he said you'd be waiting the same amount with or without single rider lines it doesn't affect your wait time. If the people in line don't mind moving around, switching rows, and the operators do their part to keep singles on standby and only letting them on when there are unoccupied seats after those in line have already been seated, this should not be a problem. And if you see the operators not doing their job, say something to them or report them to a supervisor.

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It's time to play some DEFENSE!

I don't not disagree with the single rider line concept, because it is usefull..However, if people in line were to pay attention and see that there is only a group of two in front of them and they have three or four in their group, ask the next people in line or further back if there is a group of two. No one will will have to wait longer anyways and the seats wont be empty. A little common courtesy goes a long way.

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I agree and I do that a lot when waiting for rides. However, when you have 4 people in a row (or more for a dive machine), chances are you're going to see odd numbers of people and an empty seat or two, still.

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