Now that you're back, I need some help. I'm going to SFNE on August 6th, but I can't be there all day. I have four hours maximum. It's a Sunday. I want to be able to ride every coaster, and pick my row too. If I get the Flash Pass, will I be able to enter the ride into the station, or the exit? Also, are the stations monitored and kept relatively empty?

All help is appreciated, thanks.

http://whentoride.com/graph_park.asp?state=22&park=131

Use this page to find the average wait times of each of the coasters. You can check the waits by month and by day of the week. The green section is where the wait most likely is, but the gray striped section is what the wait could be if it's a slow day.

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lol.. If you want any tips and such you can just IM me.
Flashpass/qbot is only on a few things at SFNE and for the coasters most let out in the staton so you can pick your row.. But some tell you where to sit. (Thunderbolt.. BDK sometimes, MSP)

Well it does say that August is the busiest month, but Sunday is the least busy day of the week. I'll get a Q-Bot, I think that'll be enough for a few hours. I just hoped there was something to do nearby, or in Springfield for my mom for those hours. I don't think she wants to come into the park with me. Anyone with more info on this please help. Thanks.

OK i normally don't recommend Flash pass but in your case I'll make an exception. it will help you get on the ride faster so you can hit more. Since Sundays are slow most things should have little to no wait.

Superman Don't wait for the very front or vary back seat. take the middle seat just as good a ride but half to a third the wait. batman try for the back better forces. Thunderbolt pandemonium don't have bad seats. Try to get towards to the front of Mind Eraser. Cyclone it better towards the front. Try to make time and hit. Tomahawk, catapult, Time warp, Twister, and Nightwing. everything else is either common or pointless.


as for your mom. there are a number of local Museums. The Basketball hall of Fame, A local Zoo, Dr Souse Museum and a few others. i don't know of any malls. these attractions are in Springfield.

I don't appreciate you giving new visitors the bum steer. The front and back on SRoS are two VERY different rides, and once you've ridden both of them, the middle seems pretty boring.

If you want hangtime coming over the top, a drop that seems impossibly steep, strong wind, and an overall more exhilerating experience, go for the front seat.
If you want more total airtime duration and more anticipation going up the lift, sit in the back. It's creepy not knowing when the drop's coming lol.

As for airtime, the front and back will give equally strong airtime on the camelbacks because they are parabolic (symmetrical). However, the back has longer lasting airtime, (or at least it seems so), and has it coming down the first drop, which is a very intense feeling.

The wait for the front can be like 15-20 extra minutes, so if you don't want to do that then go for the back. The wait for the back is usually 5 minutes or so.

I already know which seats I'm going to, the front and back. I wasn't asking, ^^. Also, ^, I have been on El Toro, so I know the Intamin airtime pretty well, but thanks. I will get a flash pass, reserve my ride, and go ride surrounding rides while I wait. Unless of course, the park is empty. Then it won't matter. But I did get a lot of help, now I think I have a good idea of my plan in the park, thanks all.

BTW, ^, the reason sitting in the back gives more airtime is because as you get pulled from level to downward, you feel airtime, and accelerate toward the ground behind the reast of the train. The front has a lesser feeling of air because it goes through the opposite motion; although it crests a hill, it slows down, so the air gets less intense as you get higher.

Where is the Dr. Seuss Museum? How far from SFNE?

Its nothing big really. I have been a few times.
Its in downtown springfield maybe 10mins tops from SFNE... But like I said. Its nothing big.

Well, I'm hoping my mom will be able to kill some time there, but it seems like that won't even take an hour. I think I might ask her to just come into the park with me. It seems like as long as I won't be waiting in lines, she'll have fun just watching me go on the rides. And, it is a park that we haven't been to before, so I'm sure she'll be mildly interested in what it's like.

If you must get Fastlane, get gold. Just forget about the price and go for it, because with gold q-bot you will probably be able to ride every coaster at least once and maybe even visit Hurricane Harbor. Personally, I'd take Typhoon and Tornado over some of the coasters! *cough* Flashback *cough*

In four hours, I wouldn't be able to ride all the coasters? I think I would, if I only even have to flash pass like three or four of them. One thing though: What kind of ID do they accept to rent the pass? I know at GAdv they allow you to use a season pass, but do they allow you to rent a flash pass at SFNE with a season pass?

^What? I said my mom was taking me. She might come into the park, she might not. If she doesn't she'll drop me off. Then I'll need to get a flash pass without a drivers license. Will they accept just a season pass?

Perhaps i worded this too open. What I was referign to is the Midle seats in the Front and back cars. The rides are identical to the very back seat and Very front seat as far as the Sensation is. The waits for this seats are far less then for the very front or vary back. Tht 10-30 minutes deforent will give him 20 minutes to an Hour more to ride other attractions.

Anyone know about the flash pass? Can I rent with just a season pass?

I'm not sure I never get it.

Flashpass web site

According it it you need a Photo id to rent it. But it mentions a season pass. So I'm not sure.

FLashpass is the same thing as Qbot...
It works the same way and is the SAME THING.... All that changed is the name.

If you're going for the front though, you must get the very front row because the view and wind sensations are just incredible.

The view is good I just lean to the Side Slightly and get the same view and hang just as long. I'm only putting it out there as an option to same hime time so he can see more of the park.

Jerry, on S:ROS you can cheat on the front row by just waiting to go in the second row. The stadium seating on S:ROS is great. I think once I've been on the front row. Second row gets me just a great a view. I think you can get away with it on the second. Batman: The Dark Knight queue I think moves slowly even on slow days. I get impatient waiting for it. If you have to skip a coaster and leave it to ride last do so with Mind Eraser. It's the roughest one I've been on.

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I'm glad to see I'm not the only one that Finds the middle(second seat. of the front car just as good as the front. i agree Mind eraser could be skipped if needed same for Flashback since it's a Boomerang Clone

When you go to Pandemonium if you don't like the line at the time consider knocking off Flashback or Cyclone next. Cyclone and Catapult make a nice duo sitting next to each other. Cyclone is looking much better since Catapult came in. A line rework and repaint did Cyclone wonders.

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Well I've seen the Kingda Ka and Xceelrator stadium seating, and tried it, but didn't like it. The view of people in my way is the most annoying thing. I know that a flash pass is a Q-bot, I just wanted to know if I could enter the line right into the station, and if I could rent it with just a season pass. I have 4 hours at the park.

I am 5'11" too. I think that helps in my acceptability of the second row in the first car. On my first few SROS rides I was ok but the last time I did second row the girl's hair got in my face. Ka and Xccelerator's seats extend higher up. SROS's seats are low like El Toro's.

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I really don't know If the season pass can be used. I would guess you could but am not certain. as for the way the Q-bot works. When you return you walk into the station but on the loading side not the unload side like it used to be. If you want a certain seat you need to wait for it. the front seat can often be a 20-30 minute wait Just at the station level

as for Pandemonium you might want to keep an eye out for a single rider availability. last year they offered a single rider line you can normally walk right on and wait 2-3 cars.

Well, Pandemonium has no front seat, so if the flash pass brings me into the station, there's no preference.

I'm going on Sunday. Anyone else gonna be there that day?

it dose bring you into the station but after a wait. If there running the Single rider line use it it will save you 10-20 minutes. you could do that and scan Catapult of Blizzard river.

Anyone going tomorrow? I'll be wearing my El Toro shirt, it's black.

Sorry flat Broke. Hope your day goes well though. I'll be looking forward to reading the TR.

I'd like to hear how you fared Jerry as well.

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I'm back from Boston, I went for some other stuff, but on the way I was at the park for four hours, and was able to ride Superman, Batman, Pandemonium, Catapult, Double Trouble, Thunderbolt, Cyclone, Poison Ivy, Night Wing. Yeah, I had a flash. TR in a few hours, or possibly tomorrow. It's gonna be short but sweet, so look for it.