Guest what I just rode at Walt Disney World...

**disneysweans** · 06-05-2001, 05:59 PM

Those are interesting Koaster King. I've never seen stats for those movies side by side before. I'm still not exactly sure what your overall point is though. [ This Message was edited by: disneysweans on 2001-06-05 18:01 ]

**Koaster King** · 06-05-2001, 06:11 PM

I forget the point myself. I think it was something about proving the Disney popularity over Universal and how(most likely) one(Disney, and more specifically Aladdin) will bring in more guests than the other(One Fish, Two Fish). The Mummy grosses came from DBCooper saying something along the line that The Mummy had bigger grosses than Aladdin. Dudley Do Right comes in somewhere as well.

**IOAmilleniumforce** · 06-05-2001, 07:34 PM

The only reson Aladdin has made more money than The Mummy is because Aladdin is a film the both kids and adults can see, while The Mummy is something adults would not take their little kids to see. Aladdin sucks anyway, it's all the babies acroos the world that like it and make it a high-grossing film. And since everyone has been talking about copying, Aladdin is copying what the Arabs do every day.

**IOAmilleniumforce** · 06-05-2001, 07:35 PM

The only reson Aladdin has made more money than The Mummy is because Aladdin is a film the both kids and adults can see, while The Mummy is something adults would not take their little kids to see. Aladdin sucks anyway, it's all the babies acroos the world that like it and make it a high-grossing film. And since everyone has been talking about copying, Aladdin is copying what the Arabs do every day.

**DBCooper** · 06-05-2001, 08:23 PM

KoasterKing,
 
 You are still wrong about its versus it's. My source is Strunk and White's Manual of Style.
 
 Yes, I do know all the features of the Aladdin ride. I just never felt the back-and-forth motion was a particularly big deal.
 
 Anytime you say "you can't," "you must," or "don't even start," you're issuing an order.
 
 I don't have to cite any figures on movies. You brought them up; therefore, the burden of proof devolves to you.
 
 However, I do have to say that I very much appreciate the overall tone of your last post, which seemed much friendlier to me.
 
 As far as innovation: yes, that is my opinion.
 
 Also, just so you know, I'm planning a multi-park Disney trip--though, due to funding, it will probably have to wait until early 2003. I do plan to catch up on all the stuff I missed.

**Rider** · 06-05-2001, 08:52 PM

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 And guess what? Egypt is a real place!!!

**Nosk8er** · 06-05-2001, 09:02 PM

oh well it sounds like a well thmed ride that should become a classic

**Koaster King** · 06-06-2001, 12:24 AM

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 KoasterKing,
 
 You are still wrong about its versus it's. My source is Strunk and White's Manual of Style.
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 Thanks for telling me. Seriously, I've always been taught it's. I'm glad to learn the correct way. Thanks!
 
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 Yes, I do know all the features of the Aladdin ride. I just never felt the back-and-forth motion was a particularly big deal.
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 It's not a big deal, but I guess it doesn't matter who had the original idea. If Cedar Point builds a Intamin Giga(a fact of course), then Six Flags Worlds of Adventure just down the road builds an Intamin Giga two years latter and the only difference is layout and theming would that mean they were copying? Was IOA copying the Tea Cups ride from Disney to make Storm Force? Not really. And so Disney isn't copying Aladdin. They're just in demand for another ride to help capacity. It's a pretty good idea if you ask me and I think One Fish Two Fish was pretty nice as well. What else do you want or can you do on a Dumbo type ride? I think it will be a while before Disney flips these upside down or uses real carpet. <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">
 
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 Anytime you say "you can't," "you must," or "don't even start," you're issuing an order.
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 Sorry. I really wasn't thinking the way you took it. I can't make you do something. And that wasn't near what I actually meant. That's why I hate badly moderated forums. You get to see how stupid everyone really is(not talking about you:)).
 
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 I don't have to cite any figures on movies. You brought them up; therefore, the burden of proof devolves to you.
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 Did you see them above? And I hate the word burden. It feels like such a bad word. Like everything is one your shoulders. It doesn't feel that great. But moving on...
 
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 However, I do have to say that I very much appreciate the overall tone of your last post, which seemed much friendlier to me.
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 Thanks. As I said before, I wasn't deliberately trying to sound like it came out. It comes out very different if you're face to face for certain statements.
 
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 As far as innovation: yes, that is my opinion.
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 Very well then. I guess it really is opinion. No one can factually tell you something is or isn't innovative.
 
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 Also, just so you know, I'm planning a multi-park Disney trip--though, due to funding, it will probably have to wait until early 2003. I do plan to catch up on all the stuff I missed.
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 Excellent! I hope you have fun. Try to wait until Mission:SPACE opens at Epcot as well. It sounds like a really cool ride. Very innovative. <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif"> Hopefully, they'll have another big E-Ticket attraction open as well. Don't miss RnRC, TZTOT, and of course, Splash Mountain.
 
 I'm spoiled. I've been to Disney every year for the past 7 years or so. Not this year though. I get a thrill park Summer-CP, SFWOA, PKI, BGW, SFA, PKD, SFOG, HW, SFGAM,...
 
 I never get tired of Disney. Don't go in expecting a Thrillseekers dream of course. And stay at a Disney Resort. You'll know you're in Paradise. <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif"> [ This Message was edited by: Koaster King on 2001-06-06 00:26 ]

**Rider** · 06-06-2001, 10:59 AM

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 However, I would like to know: is your statement about "a lot of people from Disney" going over to IOA "along with Disney ideas" a fact or an opinion? If you are calling it as fact, I'll accept it if you cite your sources.
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 I know that this was a fact, but this happened so long ago in the mid 90s that I couldn't possibly find the source in a reasonable amount of time. Also, I really don't care enough. </BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE>
 
 Jim Hill. He wrote about that at Mouseplanet. They have not re-posted the article at laughingplace yet.

**Scoz** · 06-06-2001, 11:30 AM

Disney is a good park and I was not looking forward to going to it, but when I went to Disneyland, Florida 2 years ago I changed my whole view of it. Rock 'n' Rollercoaster was great and the Animal Kingdom was good. Really its bad to have a go at Disney because they are basically the Fathers of Theme Parks.

**B&MAaron** · 06-06-2001, 03:54 PM

First off i hate all the disney fans posting huge things that are made mostly of quotes and you giving two sentence commentary. It's annoying! And movies have nothing to do if one park's attractions are better than another's. Jurrassic Park was a better movie than Dudley Do-Right(I'm surprised no one has pulled up stats on that, but im sure disney fans dont want to since jurassic park and the lost world are two of the highest grossing movies ever.) but i think most everyone will agree that dudley do-right the ride is better, but jurassic park is still really cool espacailly the first time u ride it. MK is the second best real THEME park in the country besides IOA in my opinion. IOA has expanded so much on what Disney has done and really made an overall unbeliveable <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_eek.gif"> park.
 
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 "Dee-dee-deeeeeeeee-dede-deeeeeeee-dedede-dee"
 Slash, November Rain
 IOA RULES!
 "Feel the Rhythm in your hands!"
 Chris Cornell, Spoon Man
 
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**disneysweans** · 06-06-2001, 04:10 PM

I have some problems with that post. You say talking about movies is off topic, but you talked about some movies. I'm not sure is you mean Dudley Do-Right the movie or the ride is better, but I think the ride isn't all that wonderful. For a flume ride it's good, but the theming is terrible. It is comprised of card board cut outs and video clips which add to the lack of clarity of the ride. I would consider myself somewhat of a Dudley Do-Right fan also (I have seen enough episodes to get the general idea) and i think the ride was poorly done.

**B&MAaron** · 06-06-2001, 05:43 PM

First off I did not say movies are off-topic I said the quality of the movies each studio makes has nothing to do with the quality of the attraction which many people seemed to think. Considering the topic of this post is about a guy who got an early ride on Aladin, I'd say just about every reply is off topic including yours. I think Dudley Do-right is an awesome ride, how can you say no to that drop into the mine shaft with the explosion. How about all the little hidden jokes like the baddie eating out of a dish that says crow at the end. That's my problem with your post

**IslandKG** · 06-06-2001, 09:12 PM

I am a huge UO fan. I love IOA, the Portofino Bay resort, and the amazing attention to detail.
 
 I'm also a huge WDW fan. I love Epcot, the Polynesian resort, and the magic you feel there.
 
 It's too bad that more theme park "enthusiasts" can't appreciate them both for their outstanding contributions to the theme park industry.

**disneysweans** · 06-06-2001, 10:09 PM

Well, I didn't say "no" to the drop- which is quite good. I'm saying that the rest of the ride is lacking. Let me put it this way- I think the Popeye raft ride is awesome, one of the best river raft rides out there. They could have taken Dudley Do Right and gone farther. In concern to off topic, i think someone started with "Boring...going to IOA" which then turned this into a debate about whether IOA is better than WDW (if I read this topic correctly) and from there it has been sent off topic a couple of times and you previous post just added further to it. That's not necessarily bad, but I read your post and the way you wrote it makes it seem like you are contradicting yourself. That's all.

**DBCooper** · 06-08-2001, 01:07 AM

Right.
 
 First of all, I would like to apologize to everyone who got sick of Koaster King's and my debate, since things got REEEEEEALLY long and involved in both our posts.
 
 Koaster King, I completely missed your movie stats the first time through. I either paged past it, or read through and ignored it. I don't know why. They're still on that page, plain as day. I just missed 'em the first time. Hm.
 
 Oh, and I would also like to apologize about another typo: my source for "its" vs. "it's" was Elements of Style by Strunk and White. I also use the Associated Press Stylebook and Libel Manual. (This reminds me--does ThrillRide need professional writers, editors or proofreaders? <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif"> )
 
 Now then, back to Aladdin! <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">
 
 I would love to hear from people who have been on it.
 
 What was it like? Did you bring your kids with you (if applicable)? How did you feel about it? Did you enjoy it?
 
 (No, I'm not doing any kind of professional or scientific survey. I just wanna know.)

**Kraken** · 06-08-2001, 02:22 PM

For all you Disney fans, Disney did NOT come up with the idea of the theme park. Holiday World(then called Santa Claus Land) was opened in 1946 and everything was themed to Santa Claus and Christmas.

**disneysweans** · 06-08-2001, 05:31 PM

Do we have to start this again??????????????????????????

**Kraken** · 06-08-2001, 10:25 PM

Well, it's true!

**disneysweans** · 06-09-2001, 09:24 AM

If we want to get technical here, Holiday World (when it opened) as Kraken said, consisted of Santa Claus and Christmas decorations. However, this was it. Is it a theme park? I guess I can see that point, but it is centered around only one theme. The point I was trying to make way back when was that Disney was the first to use multiple themes in a theme park, which led to similar things at parks today (Six Flags, Universal, Cedar Fair, etc.)

**B&MAaron** · 06-09-2001, 07:04 PM

Disney really was the first. I also like most of Disney's parks and really think they do a great job, but i like IOA better mostly because they bring that themeing to thrill rides which Disney has rarely done.

**Kraken** · 06-10-2001, 12:33 AM

Disney can't theme thrilling rides, onlt tame ones.

**Swimming King** · 06-10-2001, 11:59 AM

Look at Rock 'N' Roller and Tower of Terror Kraken. Are you telling me that they diddn't theme those rides up? They might not be the most thrilling rides in the world, but they're pretty darn good. And Disney Themes semi-thrilling rides like Space mountain, Thunder Mountain, and Splash Mountain. Mission Space will probably be great as well. I think you're just a little too crtitcal of Disney, Mr. Kraken. Lighten up eh! <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">

**DBCooper** · 06-10-2001, 10:12 PM

Okay. We've got Holiday World as the first single-theme park. Apparently Disneyland in Anaheim qualifies as the first multiple theme park, though there may be someone else with information on another that opened first.
 
 Has anyone ridden the Aladdin ride, and if so, what were your impressions?

**Kraken** · 06-10-2001, 10:51 PM

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 Look at Rock 'N' Roller and Tower of Terror Kraken. Are you telling me that they diddn't theme those rides up? They might not be the most thrilling rides in the world, but they're pretty darn good. And Disney Themes semi-thrilling rides like Space mountain, Thunder Mountain, and Splash Mountain. Mission Space will probably be great as well. I think you're just a little too crtitcal of Disney, Mr. Kraken. Lighten up eh! <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">
 
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 Rock n Roller Coaster is WAY too slow, you crawl through it. and Thunder Mountain and Space Mountain thrilling? Do you know what those are called without the big mountain and space-age dome? Kiddy Coasters!
 
 ToT, I will give credit to, becuase I like the airtime.

**disneysweans** · 06-14-2001, 12:45 PM

Sorry, I would have replied to this earlier but I was on vacation in Santiago. Anyways,
 "Rock n Roller Coaster is WAY too slow, you crawl through it"- Rock 'n' Roller Coaster is a LIM coaster. I highly doubt you can "crawl" through it. You can try, but I'm pretty sure it won't work. I think the problem here is that some people can't accept the fact that Disney is better than IOA. I agree with the people who say you can't compare them because Disney is playing in the big leagues, while IOA is in the minors. Is this gonna change? Probably. Does that bother me? No. Am I hungry now? Yes, very, gotta go.

**OrlandoCoaster** · 06-14-2001, 01:56 PM

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 On 2001-06-08 01:07, DBCooper wrote:
 
 Now then, back to Aladdin! <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">
 
 I would love to hear from people who have been on it.
 
 What was it like? Did you bring your kids with you (if applicable)? How did you feel about it? Did you enjoy it?
 
 (No, I'm not doing any kind of professional or scientific survey. I just wanna know.)
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 I rode it a few weeks ago. Yes, it is very pretty to look at. The detail of the ride is greatwith very vibrant colors.
 
 It is also in the HOTTEST place in the park with no shade in the que line. After waiting only about 5 minutes, I was ready to call it quits. Imagine what will happen during peak season.
 
 The cars hold four people and if I counted correctly, there were 16 cars with a potential capacity of 64 per ride.
 
 The ride was OK but the spitting camels (I think there was just one) must have been on break. There was no spitting, water, anything.
 
 It's nice, but not to start up a debate, One Fish Two Fish is MUCH better.
 
 Sorry!

**DBCooper** · 06-14-2001, 05:07 PM

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 On 2001-06-08 01:07, DBCooper wrote:
 
 Now then, back to Aladdin! <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">
 
 I would love to hear from people who have been on it.
 
 What was it like? Did you bring your kids with you (if applicable)? How did you feel about it? Did you enjoy it?
 
 (No, I'm not doing any kind of professional or scientific survey. I just wanna know.)
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 I rode it a few weeks ago. Yes, it is very pretty to look at. The detail of the ride is greatwith very vibrant colors.
 
 It is also in the HOTTEST place in the park with no shade in the que line. After waiting only about 5 minutes, I was ready to call it quits. Imagine what will happen during peak season.
 
 The cars hold four people and if I counted correctly, there were 16 cars with a potential capacity of 64 per ride.
 
 The ride was OK but the spitting camels (I think there was just one) must have been on break. There was no spitting, water, anything.
 
 It's nice, but not to start up a debate, One Fish Two Fish is MUCH better.
 
 Sorry!
 
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 Thanks! I'll keep this in mind. I am disappointed to hear that WDW chose not to shade the queue--since the theme is Arabic a la Agrabah, they could easily run some bazaar-style open-air tenting over the queue...

**Robert Walker** · 06-14-2001, 05:13 PM

Its about time this topic, got back on topic. Maybe they will be adding some sort of screening. But it isn't like Disney to have it up before they open the attraction.

**Kraken** · 06-14-2001, 06:08 PM

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 On 2001-06-14 12:45, disneysweans wrote:
 Sorry, I would have replied to this earlier but I was on vacation in Santiago. Anyways,
 "Rock n Roller Coaster is WAY too slow, you crawl through it"- Rock 'n' Roller Coaster is a LIM coaster. I highly doubt you can "crawl" through it. You can try, but I'm pretty sure it won't work. I think the problem here is that some people can't accept the fact that Disney is better than IOA. I agree with the people who say you can't compare them because Disney is playing in the big leagues, while IOA is in the minors. Is this gonna change? Probably. Does that bother me? No. Am I hungry now? Yes, very, gotta go.
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 After the 57 m.p.h launch and the Cobra Roll, there is a bunch of brakes! there are 3 brake runs before the final run into the station!

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