Rate This Game!

[Greg Johnson]

Give this game a 1-10 rating and explain why you gave the rating you gave.

[FreakLogic]

very good, but the game does have its limits, like....


- the height and space allowed for building is pretty limited

- there are some track styles, but not 8, so far, ive counted 4 track types, maybe 5 depending on what the hyper is.

- scenery, i know it would be a frame rate hit, but hey, for the people who have a powerful computer, they can use it to their advantage, and for the people who's comps can't handle it, they just simply ignore it, or use it and take the consequences. also water would be a good feature

- views- the views are ok, but for a compact coater, it would take a long time to figure out what your looking at in the views that dont screw up your coaster (the 3D view is really hard to handle with accuracy).


but then again, there are its advantages, like...

- really fast FPS, i get around 100 with a 16mb card!!

-editor, love the editor, the *extremely* limitless

-graphics, WHOA, need i say more?

and thats all i can think of, i know there are alot of em, but im kinda burnt out on thinking

[mforce45]

Absolutely fantastic...

[CPFan]

I find the editor really hard to use, but of coarse I never get to see what my final products look like because I only have the demo, not the full version.

[coasterfreak1080]

awesome. 'nough said.

[ACEofCOASTERS]

Best ever.

[txcrew]

This game is off the HHHIZZZZZYYY!!!

[Graham]

Best coaster game ever!!!!!

[RagingBull#1]

it looks really realistic, but it is too hard for me

[cedar_point_lover]

well i will hopefully have the game by the end of the week. Probably sooner.

[Coaster indavidual]

This game is good. I wish it had more coaster styles, especially wooden. The editor needs to have real time phyisics, i.e. track cant go through track. It needs an auto support feature. Also, in 3d mode for editor it would be very nice to have the simulator textures (minus useless stuff, shadows, sound, and station extras) so 3d mode would be more helpfull to me.
8 out of 10 for me

[cedar_point_lover]

10/10 for me because the 3d part of the editor is good if you wanna do a basic test of the ride design to see if there are any rough spots or to do a pull threw like action before or after its complete for the same feature. And i dont mind having to do supports since you can do what ever you want with the supports.

[Funkshowkid]

Great Simulator, with great graphics, and 80% in depth editing. I agree that the editor is a little tricky, but...if it was easy, all the coasters would look the same...right? I give it an 8...here's what I would like to see in an upcoming patch.

~Impuse coasters
~Shuttle coasters
~Suspended coasters

Track styles I'd like to see would be:

~Wooden
~Bobsled
~Suspended
~Mouse

I'd like to see some accesories like:

~Special Lighting inside the Tunnels
~Elevator Lifts
~Custom Built Stations
~Que Lines
~Water
~Larger Space to work with
~Editable Landscapes (hills, vallies)
~Able to go Underground/Underwater
~Racing Coasters
~Different Ground Textures.

AND FINALLY:

~Have two or more different coasters in one "setting."

Other than that....Im happy!! The graphics are AWESOME. I only get about 20-30 fps, and Im thinking about buying a new video card. 'Specially if that guy told the truth about getting 100 fps.

I'll update you all soon, and tell you if I bought one.

[miXmedia]

WHO GAVE IT A 1/10????? Jeeze


I Gave it a 10/10... do I need to do any more explaining?

[fredericmcc]

Really good although i wish you could have uncompleted coasters (shuttles, impulses) and that you could have dual stations, or dual tracks (dueling dragons).
Shame the graphics are so good too, computer can't handle it, but there are far more advantages than faults!


Fred

[chilled]

shuttles would make it better

[Ta2KX]

yes the game is fantastic, especially if the editor comes easy to the player, (it did for me!) but i only wish that theyd offer more types of coasters, especially a wood coaster. They need a 4D in that game.

[Marcus]

The game is almost perfect. If it could combine the themeing of ultimate ride, it would be beyond any coaster game ever. And dare I say it, but maybe even better than RCT. And the control on the game is great because of every detail can be changed.

[James]

i like the game but i cant make good coasters yet..i just got it last week but its a cool game and i like

[TopGun77]

EHEHEH i bet the 1/10 was from Kyle! He works for Sm...the competitor ehehehehe.

[Alex T]

I give this game a 9. It's an awesome simulator and very realistic. I love it and I strongly recomend getting it if you don't have it. The only reason I gave it a 9 was b/c there was no wooden coaster track and the lack of a couple other designs. This is a great game though.

[FuzzBuster]

I gave it a 10/10. Fantastic coaster sim! And here I thought nothing could match up to RCT. Here are my pros and cons:

CONS:

- Editor in the update is sort of buggy. Verticies aren't placed where you intend for them to go sometimes.

- Could use a little more theming.

- Could use more coaster choices.

- Limited build space.

- Coaster has to be a complete circuit.

- No landscaping or underground tunneling.

- No dueling or interconnect coasters.

PROS:

- Extremely realistic.

- Limitless track design.

- Ride physics pretty accurate.

- Editor easy to use (once you get the hang of CAD).

- Ability to create user-defined supports.

- Manual operation.

- Good views.

- Great environments.

- B&M TRACK!!!! (B&M ROCKS)

[coasterguy1]

I gave it 8/10. I love the game, andI can make some great coasters on it. Im best at hypers, but I've improved on regular loopers. Now I just need to get invert up to par. I dont like not being able to add vertices and nodes in the 3d view. That is annoying. There are some other annyoing things, but it is a great game. If they could add a woodie, flyer, and 4d, I'd be very happy with the game. And Im not gonna make a whole new thread on this, so Im gonna add it into this one. Does anyone know what "Track Info" does? Do ou just type in stuff there, or does it actually have a function? Thanks.

[coasterdude3001]

Best coaster design game. The editor is definately a challenge which is nice. Although some more editing tools would be nice. If you have an ATI graphics card change it. NoLimits + ATI = not good. I just had an ATI but changed it so I could get the amazingly good framerates that you can get in this game. I have had the game since version 1 and I love the way it just keeps getting better with every update. 1.26 is going to have terrain. I am sure all the other requests out there will eventually be met. You have full control in NoLimits. You can have fantasy coasters or you can build them true to life.

[BiCoastal Kid]

Funkshowkid, Although Im pretty sure that we wont be seeing any suspended or bobsled coasters for a while, you can technically already make shuttles and impulses, its just a matter of layering the track. After you layer the track all you have to do is play with e-stop and the PowerTweaker(http://www.coastersims.com/tia/index.htm[it will be there after they finish updating the tools to be compatable with the .2 update.]) to get the segments to lunch in reverse if needed. Tia makes some really amazing tools including the auto-support generator previously known as WoodMagic.

As for the lighting in the tunnels, you can fake this by creating a 3ds. object with the correct texturing to look like the real thing. I dont know if you've seen Phyter's Flight of Fear recreation but it uses 3ds. dots to fake the lights on the walls, he also did the enclosure and the queue line including thatawesome spaceship.

Just thought I would mention that, as of my rating, 9 out of as it hasnt finished being developed yet!

[CoAsTeRmAnIaC03]

Very good game and lots of coasters to DL but it's very difficult to build a accurate coaster with realistic g forces

[Xiong Chiamiov]

I really like it, but, it's hard for me to design w/it. I use RCT, then tweak it with NL. Also, it needs the ability to add supports in 3D. Otherwise, I can't always add supports where I want.

[paulrod]

pluses: 3D is excellent, love the realistic sound effects, downside: Editor is awkward

[incitehawaii]

10, only because it's the most powerful coaster CAD I've ever used, and quite frankly it's fun! Now only if I could get better at it!!

[Erik Leppen]

I love the program - it's my favorite computer program! But although I have some suggestions to improve it even more. Here they are all, and explained.

Suggestions for improving the NoLimits Editor

Suggestion E1. An option for copying and pasting supports. For large support
constructions with much repeating parts, it would be very handy to have a
copy-paste function for supports. With a copy-paste function for supports,
large
constructions are made significantly faster. One can, for example, use this
function by selecting some nodes and tubes, and put the pasted copy one
meter
next to it and make it the new selection. Of course, you can not copy tubes
that
are not at both ends connected to copied nodes.

Suggestion E2. Collision detection. The WoodMagic support builder has an
automatic collision detection function that, while building a construction,
removes beams that will bounce off a body part of one or more of the riders.
However, with making steel coasters, it can be difficult to make a large
construction around lots of tracks, without a single beam being too close to
it.
It would be very handy to be able to automatically remove support beams that
are
dangerously close to the track. It would be even better to just highlight
them,
because in that case the user can decide him- or herself whether or not to
remove a particular support beam.

Suggestion E3. User-defined display colors. I find it very annoying that
both
the Flat Wooden Beam and Small Steel Tube are dark red, the Small Wooden
Beam
and Medium Steel Tube are medium red and the Large Wooden Beam, the Large,
XLarge and XXLarge Tubes are all bright red. I would find it very handy if I
can
set the display color of each of the support beams in a window in the
Editor. I,
for example, want to display wooden beams in brown (dark, medium and bright
for
the three sizes) and want to display steel tubes in, for example, the five
colors purple, pink, red, orange and yellow for the five sizes. These are
just
example colors, I just want to be able to change them. It would also be
handy to
change the display colors of nodes, because in 3D view, it is sometimes hard
to
see if a particular node is a free node or a track node. I want, for
example, to
make the free nodes red and the track nodes orange. You can also allow
user-defined colors for track types.

Suggestion E4. Color code the segments after a simulation. To view the
safety of
a rollercoaster, I have to take a look at the G-Forces in the Simulator. And
I
can't look at three numbers simulaneously. I want to be able to see the
dangerous segments in the Editor, so that I can change them there directly.
It
is maybe an option to do the following: After simulation of the entire track
in
the Editor, unlock a button at some toolbar which enables or disables
Segment
Color Coding. Then, in Segment Color Coding Mode, make a segment green if
all
G-forces were safe (displayed green in the Simulator), make it yellow while
some
G-force was yellow in the Simulation, but none were red. If a dangerous
(red)
G-Force occurs, make the segment red. With this option, the user can
directly
see the dangerous points in a roller coaster.

Suggestion E5. New Statictics entry: Speed Graph and G-Force Graphs. After a
simulation in the Editor, it may be made possible to show a Speed Graph,
Vertical G-Force Graph, Lateral G-Force Graph and an Accelerational G-Force
Graph. THese can come in handy while designing and improving a roller
coaster.

Suggestion E6. I do not run the Editor at a very fast computer. If I
maximize
the window, I can use the editor at about 1 frame per second. If more track
and
supports are displayed, one frame takes more then two seconds. In wooden
coasters, this is even worse. I suppose it is possible to use hardware
acceleration in the Editor, just like the Simulator uses this.

Suggestion E7. Place Nodes in 3D View. If I, for example, want to place a
series
of nodes in a straight line, that is not parallel to one of the axes (X, Y
or
Z), it is only done by an endless moving and replacing in all views. It
would be
handy to just place the camera in the 3D View in the right direction and
then
just click some nodes in my roller coaster. Then, all nodes will be placed
in
one plane, perpendicular to the camera axis. At least, I suppose this is
automatically the case, because if I move a node or Vertex in 3D View, it
moves
over this plane.

Suggestion E8. Improve WoodMagic for inversions. If I use a looping in a
wooden
coaster, I have to manually support it by steel tubes. I want to be able to
support a looping with the same construction as in the rest of the track.


Suggestions for improving the NoLimits Simulator

Suggestion S1. People. The NoLimits Simulator is a very realistic simulator,
but
I still find it a bit 'lifeless' because there are no riders in the
coasters. It
is still in 'test phase'. If people actually sit in the trains, it will look
even more realistic. If you want to make it as realistic as possible, you
can,
by example let a rider scream when some G-force reaches above a certain
value,
that is particular for that rider. Also it should be very good if the riders
are
from different sexes and ages (men, women and children randomly spread over
the
cars). I don't know if this is a reasonable suggestion or just one
impossible to
realize, but I just call it, and leave the decision to do or not do
something
with it to you. I realize that it is very difficult to simulate people
really
getting in and out the trains, but if they just sit there, it would already
be
superb. Of course, some of them have ther hands up and those hands and the
riders' heads must go where the G-forces point to (if this is possible to
make).

Suggestion S2. Disable seat, car and train changing while on ride. Just a
simple
funny detail which makes it impossible to leave the current seat while the
restraint is closed. In the real world, you can't get out either! Then,
leaving
a train or changing seat is only possible if the train is in the station. Of
coarse, you cannot enter a train with the restraints closed.

Suggestion S3. Weather effects. Whenever a coaster simulation starts, let
the
program choose random weather. For example, a sunny day with more or fewer
clouds, rain or snow.

Suggestion S4. Show speed every frame. The speed is now displayed about
every
half second, but the G-forces are displayed every frame. In the Demo Version
1.25, speed was displayed each frame (G-forces weren't displayed at all). I
like
this feature back.


General suggestions to improve NoLimits

Suggestion G1. New Coaster Type: Junior Coaster. If I want to make a 'kiddy
ride' (coaster for small children), I can only use the Looping Coaster type.
A
'junior coaster' type will then be more realistic. I have in mind something
like
the Road Runner Express in Six Flags Holland in the Netherlands. Take a look
at
www.rcdb.com and then search for Road Runner Express.

Suggestion G2. New Coaster Type: Wild Mose Roller Coaster. If I want to make
a
Wild Mose Roller Coaster, I can only use the Looping Coaster type. A 'wild
mouse' type will then be more realistic. I have in mind something like the
Flying Dutchman Gold Mine in Six Flags Holland in the Netherlands. Take a
look
at www.rcdb.com and then search for Flying Dutchman.

Suggestion G3. New Coaster Type: Multi Dimension Roller Coaster. This is a
wonderful coaster type. There is just one coaster of this type on the
planet,
that is X in Six Flags Magic Mountain in the USA. Take a look at
www.rcdb.com
and then search for X. In this coaster type, the seats hang at the right and
left side of the train and can rotate around an horizontal axis. This is
done by
guide rails at the outside of the track of X. I think that the seat rotation
can
be realized the same way as the roll or 'banking' now is: a value at each
Vertex
and a continuous curve calculated through these values. Also, this type of
roller coaster requires a wider Inverted Support. Of coarse, this can be
made
out of user-defined supports.

Suggestion G4. New Coaster Type: Bobsled Coaster. Take for example the
Bobbaan
in the Efteling, a park in the Netherlands.

Suggestion G5. More Scene Objects. Add more scene objects to the next
release of
NoLimits, such as concrete footers, station buildings, other buildings or
other
trees and plants, fences, footpaths, benches and other objects. I have a
series
of objects that are made by my brother.

Suggestion G6. Onride Photo. Just a camera placed somewhere in the roller
coaster of which the flasher flashes whenever a train car comes over a
certain
trigger. This trigger can be placed like Track Nodes are. And to improve it
some
more, you can for example save the photo of the front car as a screenshot.

Suggestion G7. Cost calculation based on amount of steel or wood, train cost, cost of special track types (Lift, Transport), tunnel coast, tree cost and optional: ground cost.

Suggestion G8. Calculation of excitement, nausea and intensity rating much like Roller Coaster Tycoon does this

Suggestion G9. Make it able to place support planes instead of tubes only. Planes could be triangular and determined by three Nodes, just like Tubes are determined by two Nodes. An indoor coaster (or just a Coaster-In-A-Box) would be a lot less work!

Of course, if I call so many suggestions, I have also to say what is already perfect about the program. Actually everything, and that does not require further explanation.

I give the program an 8, but it would be a well-deserved 10 if all features above were in it.

Erik Leppen