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Sir Willow
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That certainly helps answer some of the questions. It's going to be interesting to see how all of this turns out, and what changes Cedar Fair is going to make in the parks. I still see a lot of the theming in a lot of them being removed.
I wonder what the long term future for things like Bonfante and Star Trek the Experience is going to be like since they're out of their normal view.
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| 5/22/2006 3:05 PM |
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Tanks4me05
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Sigh, only 3 more months of waiting... but I wonder if doubling CF's size in one move will be a good thing. They do apparently manage better than old SFI, but you never know.
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| 5/22/2006 3:09 PM |
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Gemini78
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This is a great opportunity for CF to extend its reach and prowess in the amusement industry. Considering the similarities in the way the parks are run should make the switch over that much easier.
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| 5/22/2006 4:35 PM |
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Jerry S
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So where will Nickelodeon and Hannah Barbera go? Those things are already shared with Universal and Six Flags, will CF be able to keep them for more than four years? I mean, it just doesn't make sense, it's all the themes. They'll just get all messy. I disagree, because Paramount made movie and TV theme parks, Cedar Fair made midway amusement parks. They're too different.
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| 5/22/2006 5:17 PM |
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BryanWood
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If you would've read the article, they have the opportunity to renew Nickelodeon. Paramount removed all Hanna Barbara sans the Scooby Doo dark rides. So what if they have different themes? They operate practically the same, and it will probably be an easy transition for the Paramount parks.
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| 5/22/2006 5:25 PM |
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Pcw
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Haha, now they have a Canadian park...which they will probably neglect.
Hopefully, they'll merge the season pass deals through out Cedar Fair. I can possibly go to Cedar Point then!
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| 5/22/2006 6:17 PM |
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James
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I cant wait to see all the new trashcan CF is going to buy this winter.
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| 5/22/2006 11:22 PM |
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raser
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I hope next year cedar Fair season passes will be good at Paramount parks as I will have 10 in driving distance to my home... :-)
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| 5/23/2006 12:21 AM |
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coasterlove
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This is a huge and shocking move. I do wonder if they'll keep the theming and try to keep it long term once any deal is up. Will these parks completely lose the Paramount name? There are still a lot of things to be seen. I do worry that this could be too big a move at one time. Although most or all of the Paramount parks are very successful so it should work out for Cedar Fair.
Funny thinking they now "own" Ohio.
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| 5/23/2006 1:30 AM |
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Jerry Huster
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Actually Paramount has NOT removed anything regarding Hanna-Barbera stuff...look at PKI's "Hanna-Barbera Land" for an example and the names of all the rides in PKD's KidzVille section...
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| 5/23/2006 9:51 AM |
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BryanWood
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PKI and Carowinds at the least has converted all of their kiddie rides to Nickelodeon. They only thing Hanna-Barbera left at their parks are the Scooby Dark rides.
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| 5/23/2006 10:32 AM |
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bk2004
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I so forgot about season passes! That means I can get my usual season pass to Carowinds and go to the other 12 parks for free...including CP! YES!
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| 5/23/2006 12:52 PM |
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Komatz70
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One thing that bothers me is they will evaluate if the Winterfest celebration will continue....if they dont, CF better cut me a check as I already purchased mine for this years to Carowinds...
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| 5/23/2006 6:27 PM |
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raser
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^ I think Cedar Fair will keep it atleast this year as tickets were sold and one of the parks just recently purchased more lights and things for this event...
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| 5/23/2006 9:55 PM |
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raser
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I have a quesstion, Does anybody else think that 1.24 Billion for all the parks is cheap? This works out to less than 250 Million per park and there is no way you could build a world class amusement park for that. I have never been to any paramount park but I would think individually they would be worth more than that...
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| 5/24/2006 11:43 PM |
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Bratman
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Keep in mind 3 of the parks (PCW, PKI, and PKD) are much larger than the other two (PGA and PC). I'd say $300M each for the first 3 and the other two making up the other $340M. thats my guestimate on value.
And, no you cannot build them that cheap, but keep in mind the rides and attractions do not appreciate in value. As an example, the SLC at PCW, which I have heard is worth $9M brand new, is, at the age of 11 years old, likely now worth half of that. The only thing that would appreciate in value would be the land.
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| 5/25/2006 11:28 PM |
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