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Carowinds 73-03
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Well alot of coasters go underground. That could easily be a cheap coaster with a underground tunnel.
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| 9/22/2008 11:15 PM |
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Nitro Luvr
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$600 million for an amusement park in the middle of nowhere???? That's insane. We are talking about the "cities" of Phoenix and Tucson, not mega cities like NYC, ATL, or pretty much any city in CA. I see this plan folding before it really even gets off the ground. HRP should be a perfect example on why this is a bad idea. And HRP is actually in a fairly good area too. How many people say they want to vacation in Phoenix? Now Myrtle Beach on the other hand is pretty popular. They are missing the mark here big time.
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| 9/22/2008 11:30 PM |
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Bratman
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Phoenix is a pretty big city, with a metro population of 4.2 million. Tuscon has almost 1 million in its metro area. Thats a pretty big population base right there.
As for tourism, Arizona is pretty popular. All you have to do is look at the Grand Canyon. I know that Arizona officials are eager to find attractions to keep those tourists there.
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| 9/23/2008 12:43 AM |
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GAmFanboy
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I hope both of them happen, but Look at Bible World and Ol South USA at Nashville and see what Happens there.
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| 9/23/2008 2:24 AM |
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Nitro Luvr
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That actually is not very big when you think about it more. Lets look at SFMM and SFGAdv. They both cater to a large regional area of I would say a good 25 million people. With the exception of the immediate Phoenix area, who would go there? You are talking about the middle of the desert once you leave that area. There isn't another big city for hundreds of miles that is worth even mentioning. Grand Canyon, sure, but how many would really travel so far just for an amusement park? I don't see it happening. It should be a small amusement park, IMO and not a $600 million investment where you won't get your money worth.
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| 9/23/2008 4:54 AM |
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LuvChyld79
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Interesting that this comes so soon on the heels of the announcement of the Decades park
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| 9/23/2008 9:03 AM |
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lryboy
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I'll believe it when I see it. Summertime temperatures at this theme park will be hellishly brutal!
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| 9/23/2008 4:50 PM |
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Michael C
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Looks like a great attraction. I think the price tag is a little large. maybe that's a Master plan price spent over a few years form opening. But the area is populated and should have some sort of major attraction. With a separate water park, Hotel, and camp ground It could work.
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| 9/23/2008 5:12 PM |
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cooliocody12
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I don't know what you guys are talking about toronto has a poulation of 5 million for its metro and canadas wonderland near it has the most attended seasonal theme park award so think again.
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| 9/23/2008 7:06 PM |
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Nitro Luvr
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^^Ummm, who said anything about Toronto or Canada's Wonderland? Sure you didn't take a wrong turn somewhere when reading new stories?
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| 9/23/2008 7:11 PM |
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apsterling
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^ He's responding to the people who say the Phoenix metro area isn't big enough to warrant such a park. I say bring it on, there's no competition and if done right I'd get season passes were they available.
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| 9/23/2008 8:01 PM |
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Nitro Luvr
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Then if that is the case, how far is it to Canada's next city or at least an area with many towns? Arizona period is an extremely desolate state. Spending $600 for an amusement park seems like a huge waste. They need to downsize it big time. Now if it was something like an Elitch Gardens or similar to Astroworld , then MAYBE, but it seems like they are trying to tap into a mass market which just is not going to happen.
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| 9/23/2008 8:26 PM |
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SCIENCEWIZRD
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Worlds of Fun doesn't cater to a huge area, we dont have much over a million in the KC area.
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| 9/23/2008 8:28 PM |
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Jimmy B
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For everyone's information, Phoenix is America's fifth (5th) largest city and the 13th largest metro area at more than four million people; it is also one of the fastest growing cities in the continent. That along with Tucson metro almost at one million people, this proposed park has a lot of potential market wise. There are a lot of people there to support this park. And the two cities are only about 110 miles apart. And yes there are many towns located midway between them as well. The human geography is not as deserted as you think. I have been to Phoenix many times, and I am a believer in this idea.
And someone above mentioned out the summer temperatures there. It is not that brutal. The July temps in Florence, AZ is only 102 degrees and it is a dry heat on top of that, which makes the heat index (which is what your body reacts to) actually lower than what the actual temperature is outside, so it will usually feel slightly less 100 where the park will be. That is not that hot. Compare it to Fiesta Texas' 98-degree tropical heat in July, where the heat index in Central Texas is consistently in the 105-110 degrees range. And with winters in the 66-74 degree range in Florence, AZ, this could be an ideal year-round operating park.
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| 9/24/2008 1:32 AM |
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coasterell
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I would have another excuse to visit my family living in Phoenix, and my friend who's on an Air Force Base there...
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| 9/24/2008 5:54 PM |
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