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sfne stinks
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I was in the park when this happened. I was on PITT coaster, and when I was walking to SROS it happened and yeah. It sounded bad. And then walking up the ramp to go to Scream and the front of the park, I saw the man on the ground and like at any fence point where you can see SROS people were hanging on it looking...
Edited for grammar, spelling and typos by Chip.
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| 5/1/2004 8:35 PM |
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Steven
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Http://www.wwlp.com/news2004/topstory.html?artID=43375
According to the news anchor, the man was sitting in the last car.
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| 5/1/2004 8:50 PM |
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coasterphil
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What is going on with all these Intamin rides? They are going to be involved in a lot of court cases this summer.
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| 5/1/2004 9:03 PM |
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Top Coaster
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Http://forums.sfne.com/index.php?showtopic=1590&st=0
Heres another topic on another site. Im a part of sfnes fan site. I wasnt there, but i was there the day before. We were going to go there today but something happend BEFORE the accident so we couldnt go. That guy could have been me.
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| 5/1/2004 9:09 PM |
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iluvcoasters
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Another accident... bad publicity.
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| 5/1/2004 9:39 PM |
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Jill Anne
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This story just made me feel sick inside.
Rider error? On this sort of ride?
*Maybe* he undid his seatbelt. but I can't imagine why anyone would. Woodies that used to have different lapbars? Maybe I can forgive you, but it's not safe at all. On another board I just saw somebody blaming that young girl that died too, because she was leaning forward. Look... it's not *all* rider error. It can't be. Other restraints seem to keep people in just fine no matter which way they wiggle. So there's no excuse that intamin's don't, period. And if there is an issue with certain body types, then that needs to be added to their ride regulations so that this never happens again. Period.
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| 5/1/2004 10:05 PM |
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Graham
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Ok this time the death makes me feel a little uncomfortable. I mean I always felt very safe in Intamin trains. First of all their seat belts are very hard to get undone (I've actually been suck in the seat on MF and they had to get two ride ops to get me out). Not only are the seat belts so secure the lap bars are always very secure.
Anyway my thoughts go out to this guy’s family, I’m sure this is a very hard thing to deal with.
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| 5/1/2004 10:43 PM |
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sfne stinks
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Jill anne if you saw the sfne.com thing i said about the girl... i wasnt blameign her she was trying to help someone.. but she was also in the wrong..
maybe i would feel different if i was at the park when that happened.. but i wasnt.. i was at sfne when this happend... i was even in the same part of the park and i saw the train the guy was on go by :-
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| 5/1/2004 10:43 PM |
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Jill Anne
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Actually, I was referring back to comments that have been made on RRC for weeks that she MUST have been fiddling with her jacket or MUST have been leaning forward and that's why she died. But in either situation, the ride restraint still should hold her. I'm not disagreeing with you.
It makes me uncomfortable. I feel safe in those intamin trains too, more so than most other coasters. And now? I dunno. Can I ride MF next week *without* thinking about it, when I rode it so many times before without a second thought?
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| 5/1/2004 10:54 PM |
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CHILLERLC1
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Excellent ride, but this is a very chilling incident. : (
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| 5/1/2004 11:27 PM |
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kermat13
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This is crazy--so early in the season and so many deaths.
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| 5/2/2004 12:02 AM |
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Frank
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Knowing very well how the Intamin restraining systems work, I must say I am not too surprised this happening again. This isn't the first time someone has fallen out of an Intamin seat, and it probably won't be the last time.
I just hope Intamin dares to acknowledge the mistakes they have made, and replace their restraining systems on several coasters (especially the hypers).
Very sad that yet another man had to die on an Intamin ride...
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| 5/2/2004 7:09 AM |
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darque
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What else has been going on with Intamin?
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| 5/2/2004 7:23 AM |
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MST3K_FREAK6666
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That is horrible.
What's possible that he could've done is that he sat forward in his chair like I usually do so that you have room for air. After the crash two (?) years ago this is really bad news.
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| 5/2/2004 9:48 AM |
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MilhouseTheKing
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So they are or arent blaming this on rider error? I really want more information and no one seems to have any.
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| 5/2/2004 10:50 AM |
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Steven
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They aren't blaming it on anything... yet. They need to eliminate the easiest thing they can eliminate first (that's mechanical). Once they do that, they can really cooberate the eyewitness accounts and blame it on "rider error".
Also, concerning Intamin's restraints. I've never had a problem with lapbars, but the seatbelt failed on me once. You have to make sure both sides click, and sometimes a tug on it can tell you that it's still fastened, but in reality it isn't, and then when you hit the airtime, it unfastens itself.
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| 5/2/2004 11:15 AM |
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gcut26
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I heard from CNN Headlines on TV that the rider had cerebral palsy and got around the park on a scooter. Do you guys think his cerebral palsy come into play with the cause of the accident? I do.
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| 5/2/2004 12:37 PM |
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Steven
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I'm sure they'll ask, but I doubt that is a contributing factor. People with disabilites like that ride coasters all the time... safely.
Considering the fact he went on a somewhat regular basis (2-3 times/year), I think he'd know about his own safety, and has surely ridden the ride before.
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| 5/2/2004 1:50 PM |
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Chip
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I don't see how it could be the restraint. They are very secure and have two backup systems. See this Web site for more information: http://www.virtualmidway.com/rides/t...ster_f2a.asp />
I wonder if parks are going to start looking at Intamin and checking their restraints. Of course, they may only do that if the accident on Hydro and this accident prove to be the fault of the restraint.
EDIT: I just added the CNN.com article. They confirmed that he had cerebral palsy. Check out this quote from the man's mother:
"I can't understand why they would let him on a ride like that in the first place. He was so sickly and handicapped. I just can't believe it."
She's right. They should not have let him ride if he was "so sickly and handicapped." That's weird, and it's a big hit on SFNE's employees. I bet some people may get fired.
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| 5/2/2004 3:21 PM |
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BatwingFan SFA
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I'm pretty sure the parks that have Intamin rides(namly hypers) will certainly be looking into this investigation very closly to determin what changes(if any) need to be made to the restraint system.
I was at SFA yesterday & was wondering why our superman coaster unexpectedly shut down around mid to late afternoon....of course employees around the ride wouldn't tell any of us why it was closed & I just assumed it was a mechanical problem(our S:ROS coaster has had many problems lately) but was suprised & saddened to hear that someone had died on SFNE's coaster.
I came home rather late last night & was informed by my mom that someone had died at a park in some sort of ride accident but was unable to find any news coverage of it on the local stations(I had already missed the 11 pm news in our area) but recieved an e-mail from my friend(who I was with at the park yesterday) about the death at SFNE & it really makes me wonder if these rides should just be removed from the SF chain because all three have had major malfunctions/accidents & the most recent one resulted in a fatality.
So far we've had one man fall out of SFDL's superman in 99 (resulting in lap belts added to SFA's & SFNE's as part of the design & construction in 2000) then just a season later in 2001 SFNE's version crashed due to a defective part(Intamin should've never used plastic brake lines to begin with in the design) two years later in 2003 SFA's version experienced a brake failure as well but thankfully not a crash (thanks to the other train being at the top of the lift,I was in the park when it happened that night) & now this happens at SFNE & of course this time a park patron is dead because of it.
It really makes you wonder how long these three coasters will remain in their respective parks....this is the last thing a struggling company like SFI needs at this point in time.
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| 5/2/2004 3:55 PM |
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More about News
May. 1st, 2004 -- A 55-year-old man, identified as Stanley J. Mordarsky from Bloomfield, Connecticut, died Saturday after falling out of the Superman Ride of Steel roller coaster.