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bgwfreak
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This is another case of a rider not following instructions, and now the rest of have to pay the price.
I read the article, and it said the guy had been turned away before from riding the coaster. So why did he go back a 2nd time? That's just stupid.
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| 5/7/2004 1:55 PM |
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Chain Dawg
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Actual report here...
http://www.state.ma.us/dps/Six_Flags_Superman.pdf />
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| 5/7/2004 3:38 PM |
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Steven
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It's really a whole bunch of mistakes...
- Stanley, despite being told not to ride previously because of his size (not his disability since they can't go by that merit), went ahead
- Stanley himself did not check his own restraints as well
- Six Flags operators failed to check the restraints
- Intamin does not design rides for some larger guests, unlike many of the American designers, Vekoma (to an extent), and B&M (on most later rides).
All Intamin rides are designed for people with an average waist size of 38", or "average person". Unfortunately, that limits quite a few people. While I can safely ride rides like Magnum, I can't ride MF or TTD because of that.
Intamin should really work on that, and make their rides more friendly for larger guests.
Lastly, I don't think it had to do with his disability. It was with everything else above that I mentioned.
Unfortunately now, I think we may have to come to accept Markey's request for federal oversight. He's got the ammo now.
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| 5/7/2004 3:39 PM |
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PANTSFREE
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New restraints??? I dont like the sounds of that, can anyone say hyper coaster with OTSR? oy vey. Y would they need new restraints??? Thats sooo stupid... The restraint was up from the beginning! that isnt exactly "failing".
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| 5/7/2004 5:45 PM |
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adderrick
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Once again operator error and rider stupidity. B&M, Intamin, Vekoma, and Arrow cant cater to everyone. Im 6'4 and in good shape yet cause of my height i cant fit onto some Premier rides, but you dont see me complaining. There is always going to be a ride that someone cant get on. If they catered to everyone, rides would take about 5 years to design and finally build. If that guy was too big for the ride, he should of known very good and well not to get on it, while in the meantime the operator shouldnt of dispatched the ride if the restraint wasnt secured. Its a shame that it takes 2 errors like this to change the entire design of roller coasters in Mass. Hoefully they will just use more stringent laws against amusement parks instead of redesigning something because 2 people screwed up
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| 5/7/2004 9:29 PM |
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edh101985
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"This is another case of a rider not following instructions, and now the rest of have to pay the price. "
BGWfreak, the guy was mentally disabled! It should not be his job to check the restraints, it is the people working their's job. And since he wasn't capable to do so, the ride ops should have make it an extra concern to check restraints. It is no way a mentally chalanged person's fault. It is all the parks fault for not checking the restraints. This goes for anyone who is blaming the rider.
Cerebral palsy is a group of disorders characterized by loss of movement or loss of other nerve functions. Does this really sound like something a person can do on their own: http://health.yahoo.com/health/ency/...000716/overview
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| 5/7/2004 9:54 PM |
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SFGAm Guru
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Umm.... they'll just go with restraints like on Goliath...
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| 5/7/2004 10:33 PM |
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adderrick
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Yes the guy was disabled, but every roller coaster I ever been on always had signs clearing stating that the mentally handicapped, the ride isnt recommended for them. Isnt good for alcoholics or pregnant women. Now tell me can you tell if a woman is 3 months pregnant? Most folks cant so if she got on the ride and lost the baby due to the G forces, etc on the ride, who's fault is it? Im not saying that its all the guys fault, the park and operator is highly to blame too, but people also have to have common sense. A cerebal palsy person mental capacity isnt always hendered so its possible he knew what he was doing. Im guessing he did because the article didnt mention him going to the park with someone. If he didnt have a good mental capacity, HOW did he get to the park in the first place?
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| 5/7/2004 10:35 PM |
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adderrick
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Goliath and SROS restraints are very similar, wont make a difference.
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| 5/7/2004 10:35 PM |
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CHILLERLC1
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Americans are too fat. We have to do something about that. It's terrible. I hope S:ROS is not neutered.
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| 5/7/2004 11:08 PM |
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Magnum Robert
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It's too bad the restraints might have to be changed b/c of rider and ride-op error.
edh - i'm amazed with your ability to identify those with mental disabilities simply by looking at them. You must be very proud.
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| 5/8/2004 12:04 AM |
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edh101985
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Actually Magnum Robert, its because I read in a earier article the disability he had.
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| 5/8/2004 10:56 AM |
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Magnum Robert
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^ No sh*t. So stop making assumptions that the ride ops "should have make it an extra concern to check restraints". How are they supposed to know what's 'different' about someone just by looking at him/her?
Also, while it should "not be his (guy who died) job to check the restraints", it is his job to fasten the restraints once seated.
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| 5/9/2004 7:59 AM |
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May. 7th, 2004 -- The use of T-bars as a primary restraint will now be banned (in MA), officials say. Among the state's 40 permanent amusement parks, only Superman Ride of Steel is affected, and the park must either replace the T-bar with a new device or acquire a state-approved fix from the manufacturer.